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SFMA Big Spring Build Contest => SFMA Big Spring Build Contest 2014 => Topic started by: fumblethumbs on February 28, 2014, 03:11:54 pm

Title: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on February 28, 2014, 03:11:54 pm
OK...Here's my official entry into Springapalooza, SFMA style!!
 ;D


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03866_zpsa8b9634a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03866_zpsa8b9634a.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03868_zps0ec93e02.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03868_zps0ec93e02.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: dlots1701a on February 28, 2014, 03:13:03 pm
good to go fumblethumbs good luck
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: The Model Dude on February 28, 2014, 03:14:26 pm
Nice!  I will enjoy seeing you getting this one to the finish line.  I wish you fun and success, with the build and the contest!   8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: billski on February 28, 2014, 03:15:46 pm
Good luck Fumbles, this will be an awesome build, and I will be watching carefully
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: AnythingSciFi on February 28, 2014, 04:20:09 pm
Sweet!
I almost chose this kit! Nice!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: DizWhiz on February 28, 2014, 05:21:54 pm
Very cool choice, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: big game nerd on February 28, 2014, 09:11:18 pm
Cool, Im sure you'll do a heck of a job. 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: jguard68 on March 01, 2014, 07:21:22 am
One of my favorites from childhood. Looking forward to the build and good luck.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 01, 2014, 08:54:24 pm
Thanks very much for the well wishes Guys!  Much appreciated  :)

So at 1/32 scale this kit is a nice size.  It measures 13.5 inches across the wings.  The supplied interior is pretty stellar.  My plan is to kick it up a notch with the Paragraphix photo etch set that Boyd steered me toward.  After checking it out online...it was a no brainer.  It comes with the etch and a set of JT Graphics decals.  Thanks for the tip on that one Boyd!!  Also, I'll be lighting this up.  Guess that should put me in the modified category.  My initial dry fit shows impeccable parts fit and some very clever design.  Moebius has done a number on this kit!!


Here's a boo at the parts. 

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03872_zpsb66da8fd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03872_zpsb66da8fd.jpg.html)


A rub a dub scrub.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03870_zpscde47dd4.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03870_zpscde47dd4.jpg.html)


Now here's the section I'll be working on first.  It's the interior framework.  You Guys that are familiar with the show may recognize the instruction picture.  Moebius supplies a clear floor for lighting option...SWEET!!

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03873_zps43b7a3cb.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03873_zps43b7a3cb.jpg.html)


Frame parts separated from sprue.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03874_zps4b13cfc0.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03874_zps4b13cfc0.jpg.html)


The dreaded ejector pin marks.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03878_zps49776d82.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03878_zps49776d82.jpg.html)


Filled with bondo glazing putty.  Not the Mr. Surfacer shown.  It's pretty stinky!  :P

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03880_zpsdc6e5f29.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03880_zpsdc6e5f29.jpg.html)


Some mold lines.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03876_zps71cfc54b.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03876_zps71cfc54b.jpg.html)


Bye-bye mold line  ;)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03882_zps9c4a96d3.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03882_zps9c4a96d3.jpg.html)


So, that's about it for a first session.  I figure another couple hours will have these parts all cleaned up and ready for some assembly.  I think I'll do some paintwork on the floor tomorrow as well.

Thanks for having a look Guys!  :)

Jeff

Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: jellis11 on March 01, 2014, 11:41:37 pm
Dang! This thing is a lot bigger than what I thought! Good start.....Im anxious to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: big game nerd on March 02, 2014, 04:57:23 am
wow, lots of filling and sanding on the sink marks.  Looking good. 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: Lufty on March 02, 2014, 03:01:22 pm
Wow that's such a cool looking kit!

The sanding/putty work your doing on the support structure parts/mold lines/circles is great...I may have overlooked that.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: wolf 359 on March 02, 2014, 03:26:56 pm
That is a nice kit. Off to a great start Fumble!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 02, 2014, 04:18:34 pm
That is a nice kit. Off to a great start Fumble!

Thanks Dave! 

Wow that's such a cool looking kit!

The sanding/putty work your doing on the support structure parts/mold lines/circles is great...I may have overlooked that.

Thanks Lufty!  Yeah, I tend to be a bit OCD when it comes to the prep work  ::)
Maybe it's overkill, but I really enjoy that process.  I know, a bit weird, most people don't enjoy the filling and sanding too much.  I like doing it.  :o

wow, lots of filling and sanding on the sink marks.  Looking good. 

Thank You Steve!

Dang! This thing is a lot bigger than what I thought! Good start.....Im anxious to see how this turns out.



Yeah Jeff, she's a pretty good size!  Ripe for interior detailing.  Thanks for looking in Bud!


A little more progress today Guys.  Got the spider like interior frame all cleaned up and assembled.  I'll still need to fill the spots on the inner ring where the legs where glued in.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03886_zps355165c1.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03886_zps355165c1.jpg.html)


So, looking at some episodes of the show, I have a fair idea how the floor should look.  The foremost hexagon is a hatch that leads to the docking ring and egress hatch.  It is not lit but has a grey colour to it with a yellowish/gold stripe just in from the edge.  The remaining three are lit sort of a shade of pale yellow.  First thing done was a wet sand with 1000 grit to give any paint a chance at sticking.  I then masked (on the bottom side) for the stripe.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03884_zpsc8ee85e6.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03884_zpsc8ee85e6.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03885_zpsaf71fc71.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03885_zpsaf71fc71.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03887_zpsd3b909cf.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03887_zpsd3b909cf.jpg.html)

 
After the stripe dries, I'll go over that hatch with grey (again from the bottom) and that should give the right effect.  Hope this makes sense  :o

After that, I can mask the 4 hexagons from the topside and get the floor primed and painted blue.

Thanks for checking it Guys!  :)

Jeff
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: big game nerd on March 02, 2014, 05:28:40 pm
Looking real good Jeff.   Your process will pay off.  That's about the best way i have seen it done.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: DizWhiz on March 02, 2014, 08:17:58 pm
Wow Jeff you aren't wasting any time! Great work on filling/smoothing out the frames.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: philco36 on March 03, 2014, 08:38:04 pm
Looking forward to this. Due to the price of this model, that has scared me away from getting it. BUT you may just sway me to it as I watch you build this.

Phil
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 03, 2014, 08:48:23 pm
Thanks Dave!  Thanks Steve!  Appreciate the kind words Guys  :)

Yes Phil, a tad pricey but given the size and what's in the box, worth it I think. My kit was marked down from 85 to 60 dollars Canadian.  Pretty good price really.  Thanks for stopping in Phil!   

I've been feeling a little blue the last two nights.  ;)


Masked, primed, first coated and wet sanded...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03889_zpsc3a791bf.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03889_zpsc3a791bf.jpg.html)


After final coat and masking pulled...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03896_zps028a1a5a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03896_zps028a1a5a.jpg.html)



I'll let the floor sit and harden up till the weekend.  Probably work a few evenings this week, at finishing up the prep work on the frame deal and getting it painted.  I'm really enjoying all the great builds we have going on here!!

Thanks for checking it Guys!  :) 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: wolf 359 on March 03, 2014, 09:29:28 pm
Looking good Jeff! The thing is Big. Now I want one!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: dlots1701a on March 03, 2014, 10:03:24 pm
Wow Fumble
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 04, 2014, 01:40:27 am
After your sound thrashing of me in the SW build several TWOK quotes come to mind...
such as:
Ah, Fumbles my old friend. Have you ever heard of the klingon proverb that says: "revenge is a dish that is best served cold"? It is very cold... in space.."

Or how about:
"We tried it once your way fumbles; are you game for a rematch?"

Or maybe;
"I have made my intentions clear: I mean to avenge myself upon you!"

lol all in good fun! good luck sir! great start so far!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: dlots1701a on March 04, 2014, 10:02:28 am
oh sounds like we are gonna to have a world class bout here between 3rd place and fumble stay tuned same bat time same bat channel
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 04, 2014, 10:22:14 am
Looking great Jeff!


Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: The Model Dude on March 04, 2014, 11:08:41 am
Great looking work!  Your pictures of this build up are really opening my eyes to the detail on this kit.  Things are looking very clean so far as well.  I look forward to more!   8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: wolf 359 on March 04, 2014, 12:26:56 pm
Looking sweet Jeff. I think I should change my name to Anything Big! LOL
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: TrekWorks on March 04, 2014, 07:10:20 pm
Jeff I'm placing everyone's builds into categories based on the building plans and kit's. Are you doing lighting and other mods to this kit or just painting and cleaning up the parts?
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 05, 2014, 06:19:48 am
Jeff I'm placing everyone's builds into categories based on the building plans and kit's. Are you doing lighting and other mods to this kit or just painting and cleaning up the parts?


Yeah Boyd, I'll be adding photoetch and lighting to the kit.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 05, 2014, 07:47:57 pm
Jeff,  you have got me wanting to build this kit!
I might build mine after the Seaview!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: HDATX on March 06, 2014, 05:57:15 pm
Fumbles,

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Way to go, Man!  What an excellent choice!!!  I can't wait to see more!  I have always loved this model and Boyd is right the Paragrafix photoetch is a must!!!  I have looked for a longtime and never was able to get this kit until recently when a good friend of mine here on the forum found one for me.  I really love the subject and know your gonna knock it out of the park!!!  I really can't wait to see more.  May the wind be at your back Fumbles!!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on March 06, 2014, 06:55:08 pm
Excellent work so far Jeff. I know you'll do an outstanding job on it. Your thread will be a treasure trove of info for those building this one in the future. KUTGW :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 06, 2014, 09:01:23 pm
Awesome work Fumbles! I still kick myself for missing out on this kit. Trying to find one now is tough. I do hope Moebius reissues it. Steve Neal did a long and detailed build of this model and he well documented it on his youtube channel. I was just getting the bug back when he started it and of course , the model had already been discontinued. :( so No Flying Sub for me! well not the 1/32 version anyway. This model has so much potential!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 08, 2014, 12:38:02 pm
Hi Guys!

As always, your comments and input here is very much appreciated! 
Thanks for the interest.  :)

Some of you Guys have mentioned that you're liking the size and look of this kit.  Well, it is a pretty cool model, and I can highly recommend it.  Don't quote me, but I think I read somewhere that Moebius may be reissuing this one in 2014.  I do stand to be corrected on that point.  If not this year, surely they will bring it back at some point.

Anyway, a little more progress.  I got the interior frame all finished up.  The instruction called for "steel" colour, so I went with Tamiya metallic grey. 

Here you can see that the notch in the inner ring, which accepts the peg on the leg frame, is now gone.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03905_zpsa4efdea9.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03905_zpsa4efdea9.jpg.html)


I used a bit of filler to fashion a "weld bead" where the frame leg butts into the inner ring.  The "line" around the outside of the ring is actually a step detail and not a mold line. Difficult to tell from the pic, but there is actually a slight texture on the bottom half of the ring.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03906_zps57e78abd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03906_zps57e78abd.jpg.html)


The close up piccys make the assembly look kind of pinkish.  Here's a better representation of the colour.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03907_zpsae9c40fb.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03907_zpsae9c40fb.jpg.html)


Now, why all this diddlin' around with the ring/leg joins you may ask.  Well, Moebius has cleverly designed the kit where the top docking ring (the big blue circle on top of the sub) can be made completely removable.  It's a simple modification that is covered in the instructions.  The upshot is, this mod will allow for much better viewing of the interior detail.  Thing is, the top of the interior frame will be the first thing one sees when the docking ring is removed.  The inner ring and leg junction points will  be front and centre.  So that's the reason I went to task on this area.


OK, next thing is some figures for the inside.  Now there is a sweet set of aftermarket resin figures for this kit.  But, every place I checked was showing no availability.  I puzzled over what to do for figures for a week.  Modify 1/35 soldiers?  ???  Sculpt from scratch?   ???  Then the light bulb went on.  I'm ripe with 1/32 figures!  ;D


Figures from the new and old releases of the TOS bridge kits.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03898_zpsd887b47b.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03898_zpsd887b47b.jpg.html)


After looking at these, I decided I might be able to make do with them.  I chose the original kits Kirk to make Nelson. 


Check out the mold line! :P   Let's not overlook that ejector pin mark right on the temple!  ::)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03909_zpscc0dda6a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03909_zpscc0dda6a.jpg.html)


So, I cleaned it up a bit, filed down the chin a bit...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03914_zps96a3fd03.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03914_zps96a3fd03.jpg.html)


I think once the proper colours are applied it may pass for Nelson.  May have to lower the hairline a bit.  ;D


That's about it for now Guys.  Thanks for having a gander!!  :)


 


   
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: DizWhiz on March 08, 2014, 01:13:05 pm
Man that is some clean, solid work you have so far on the framework. Also cool that you can open her up when all said and done.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 08, 2014, 05:41:19 pm
Looking goodJeff!
When I do my big sub I'm gonna send you the figures to paibt for me!  =)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 08, 2014, 08:16:03 pm
The head you reduced the chin on would be good for Adm. Nelson, would leave a little of the chin on with the other since Capt. Crane had a bit of a sharper chin. Looking awesome! Love the weld detail you added!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on March 08, 2014, 08:32:17 pm
Great work Jeff! never thought of using the AMT bridge Figures. Might have to use them for the Jupiter as well. Great tip :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 08, 2014, 09:00:07 pm
Sweet idea on those figures!!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on March 09, 2014, 01:14:57 am
Good work Jeff this will be a stunning build
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on March 09, 2014, 07:21:46 pm
Great idea with the figures.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: The Model Dude on March 10, 2014, 10:55:46 am
Thanks for the head's up on a possible re-pop!  And as others have said, a great idea to use the figures.  That paint work is looking really clean my friend; keep up with the great work (it is inspiring to see).  I like the result you are getting from the Tamiya colors there.  Keep having fun with this build, because lord knows that I am!  8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: xray on March 10, 2014, 11:41:54 am
 8) Nice looking there Fumble.
Scott
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on March 12, 2014, 12:31:37 pm
Glad to see you building this one Jeff, but gotta admit I'm a bit jealous too.....  (been wanting this one in my stash for a long time but never willing to pay the piper.)

When you get back to your 1/537 refit, is Admiral Nelson gonna be sitting on the bridge?  LOL

Wolf
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 12, 2014, 12:38:30 pm
Agreed with Model Dude, keeping my fingers crossed for the re pop! Might have to start gathering bits and bobs just in case!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 13, 2014, 08:53:11 pm
Hi Guys!

Thank you for the kind words and for following my project.  Appreciate it Guys!  :)

Not a whole heck of a lot of time for modeling this past week.  :(

I did however get the floor finished up.  The three transparent octagons, which will be backlit got their Tamiya clear yellow.  The last one (the egress hatch) got it's hinges and latch detail painted.  I did some assembly work on the seats.  They are excellent!  No fewer than ten parts make up each seat.  I did a dry fit of the floor, frame and walls, just to see what's up.  I'm tellin' ya Guys, this thing literally falls together and fits like a glove!  8)   Here's a look.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03926_zpsba42df57.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03926_zpsba42df57.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03923_zps4bfed8f0.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03923_zps4bfed8f0.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03927_zps50305131.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03927_zps50305131.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03928_zpse278ed92.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03928_zpse278ed92.jpg.html)


The seat upholstery is molded separate for easy painting.  Nice!


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03931_zpsc80b09b0.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03931_zpsc80b09b0.jpg.html)


I chose this head from the original TOS bridge kit to represent Kowalski.  It has that beady, close set eye look.  ;D


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03932_zps94df8513.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03932_zps94df8513.jpg.html)


Lastly, the Paragraphix detail kit arrived this week!  It is absolutely beautiful!  I'll be diving into it this weekend.  8)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03936_zpsd7bd197a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03936_zpsd7bd197a.jpg.html)


Should have another report over the weekend.

Thanks for checkin' it Guys!  :)
     
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 13, 2014, 10:02:59 pm
looking sharp! can't wit to see that photo etch on there!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on March 13, 2014, 11:04:09 pm
Looking good Jeff.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Tankton on March 13, 2014, 11:29:19 pm
Man! This is looking great. Nice detail.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 13, 2014, 11:31:18 pm
I chose this head from the original TOS bridge kit to represent Kowalski.  It has that beady, close set eye look.  ;D

LOL Poor Kowalski! Sometimes he just could not get a break! Even now!

That is looking great! Awesome work! Come on repop! Come on repop! lol This has me Jonesing hard for this kit now. Are  you planning on doing the lighting effect on the fusion reactor? Someone made the controller for it. I can't remember who, might have to check SNG channel on youtube to figure that out.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: DizWhiz on March 14, 2014, 12:32:36 am
Very cool so far, love the blue floor.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on March 14, 2014, 01:34:04 am
Great stuff Fumbles, I love watching your builds!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 15, 2014, 08:30:47 pm
Hi Fellas!

Michael, Dave, Cam, Brad, Dave and Bill:  Thank You all Guys for the interest and input here!
Much appreciated!  :)  Also, thanks to those reading, looking and following along  ;)

@ Brad:  Yes to fusion reactor lighting.  I won't be using an aftermarket kit but rather, cobbling something up from scratch.


OK, today I did more work on the figures.  A lot of modification had to be done to get things working.

I'm using Spock's body for Kowalski but his arms aren't very interesting.  Kirk...Er I mean Nelson's knees are spread too far apart.  They interfere with the armrests and joystick controls on the seat.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03934_zpsf82440eb.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03934_zpsf82440eb.jpg.html)


So, off with Kowalski's arms and I notched, repositioned and shimmed Nelson's hips.



(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03944_zps3542f844.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03944_zps3542f844.jpg.html)



So now after surgery, Nelson is pigeon toed.  Off with his feet (I wound up doing both) and a little rotation.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03945_zps3ece1356.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03945_zps3ece1356.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03948_zps8698594d.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03948_zps8698594d.jpg.html)


Better I think and he fits into the seat. Removal of Kowalski's arms left some huge gaps.  These were filled with varios styrene carved shapes and sheet.



(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03938_zps8c5177a5.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03938_zps8c5177a5.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03941_zpsa03dd49d.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03941_zpsa03dd49d.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03949_zpsbee5acfc.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03949_zpsbee5acfc.jpg.html)


Some trimming and sanding and putty will look after the rest.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03951_zps11f5c95a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03951_zps11f5c95a.jpg.html)


I'll let this stuff harden up overnight and continue tomorrow.

Till tomorrow then Fellas.  Thanks for checking!  :)





Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 15, 2014, 08:42:33 pm
Wow!
Super nice there Jeff!

I see Armando isn't the only Dr in the house!
Nice surgery there!   =)

Gonna go right now and make sure in have the PE for this kit!  =)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 15, 2014, 08:49:13 pm
Got PE?
Check!  =)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 15, 2014, 08:59:29 pm
these almost look like photos from some horror flick! "X-Acto Man's Revenge"
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Armandodlc on March 16, 2014, 01:54:46 am
Dude, youre like an orthopedic surgeon! Amputate here, rotate hip there...lol...looking sharp
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 16, 2014, 11:26:32 am
Wow!
Super nice there Jeff!

I see Armando isn't the only Dr in the house!
Nice surgery there!   =)

Gonna go right now and make sure in have the PE for this kit!  =)


Thanks Kenny!  Yeah, the photo etch!!  8)  This is my first time with a nice PE kit.  I can see using more of it in the future for sure.  ;)


these almost look like photos from some horror flick! "X-Acto Man's Revenge"

Dude, youre like an orthopedic surgeon! Amputate here, rotate hip there...lol...looking sharp

That's funny stuff right there!  ;D  Thanks Guys!



Well, I burned myself out a bit on figures yesterday!  :)
Two of the four or five figures I'll need are ready for primer.  I'll be adding some more detail to them after they are primed.  I think the driver looks more like Chief Sharkey than Nelson.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03979_zpsa87df920.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03979_zpsa87df920.jpg.html)




So, itching to try out the PE,  here's what went on....
Fairly typical PE installation technique to allow for lighting.


Drill holes.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03967_zps7c51f3e8.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03967_zps7c51f3e8.jpg.html)



Connect holes with hobby knife.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03968_zps1c6b93fd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03968_zps1c6b93fd.jpg.html)



File,  sand and generally cleanup cutout

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03969_zps00be2949.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03969_zps00be2949.jpg.html)



I gave the back of the PE a little scrub on some 600 grit to ensure good adhiesion.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03970_zps5ac17bb1.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03970_zps5ac17bb1.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03971_zpsa3a4d033.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03971_zpsa3a4d033.jpg.html)



CA the part into place.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03976_zps65bd187d.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03976_zps65bd187d.jpg.html)


So all in all, a pretty sweet upgrade!!  As I said, I'm a first timer with the PE, but  found  it wasn't too difficult to get it installed.  It absolutely does kick the detail value up several notches!

Thanks for having a look Guys!
 :) 


Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Armandodlc on March 16, 2014, 12:46:01 pm
You probably know this already, FT, but remember to hit the PE with some metal primer before you paint it...otherwise, the paint wont stay on very well. Looking sweet...
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 16, 2014, 01:00:41 pm
Yeah, that detail looks sweet!
Most PE is fairly easy to work with and sometimes it is a major pain!
Remember when you have to place the PE on an uneven surface take a torch, propane, butane whatever and heat it up. It will lend itself to the surface you are placing it on and won't try to flex back straight!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on March 16, 2014, 02:54:20 pm
very impressed how you kit bashed the figures Jeff. Nice little tut on using PE
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 16, 2014, 04:15:39 pm
You probably know this already, FT, but remember to hit the PE with some metal primer before you paint it...otherwise, the paint wont stay on very well. Looking sweet...
OK. Thanks very much Armando!  I was not aware of this procedure.  I do have a spray bomb of metal specific primer, so I'll be sure to dust over the brass with it before going ahead with the "standard" primer.  Thank You Sir!


Yeah, that detail looks sweet!
Most PE is fairly easy to work with and sometimes it is a major pain!
Remember when you have to place the PE on an uneven surface take a torch, propane, butane whatever and heat it up. It will lend itself to the surface you are placing it on and won't try to flex back straight!
Again, unaware of this procedure.  Thanks very much Kenny! 


very impressed how you kit bashed the figures Jeff. Nice little tut on using PE
Cheers Bill  ;)


A little primer down.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03987_zps68b65593.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03987_zps68b65593.jpg.html)


This is the extent of the PE work accomplished today.  Don't want to rush it and have things go south on me  ;D 

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03980_zps4180c3ed.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03980_zps4180c3ed.jpg.html)


Here are mirror image kit parts for comparison.  I mean, the plastic detail is perfectly fine, but the brass really elevates it to another level!  (Yeah, I'll be buying more PE sets  ;D).

 (http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03982_zpsa2d304b8.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03982_zpsa2d304b8.jpg.html)


Here's a little backlight action.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03984_zpsd87af5a6.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03984_zpsd87af5a6.jpg.html)


That's it for this most enjoyable weekend of modeling.  I'll continue to pick away at it, evenings this week.  Thanks for the great tips and for looking in Guys!
 :)

 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Tankton on March 16, 2014, 04:17:55 pm
Nice PE work. Very realistic. Would love to get this model.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: AnythingSciFi on March 16, 2014, 05:00:09 pm
WooHoo, nice indeed!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: DizWhiz on March 16, 2014, 06:42:39 pm
That backlit shot of the PE panel/wall is fantastic! Super clean and great work for the weekend.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: big game nerd on March 17, 2014, 04:55:03 am
Nice.  The PE does become infectious.  Most of the time I find that I won't start a kit until there is a PE set for it.  Saves a lot of time on scratch building.
Looking good
Steve
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on March 19, 2014, 01:52:13 pm
Very Nice Jeff! Love what you did with the figures. I guess at some point you can say "On with there heads" Great work as allways!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: jguard68 on March 20, 2014, 07:29:55 pm
Awesome work on the control panel and the figures. WOW
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Tankton on March 20, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
This is looking better and better. Good reuse of other kit parts.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on March 21, 2014, 07:03:00 am
Nice work Jeff. The photo etched panels look sweet. What did you do to remove the old details just cut them out and overlay the PE parts? Curious as I have the kit and the parts and want to build it later this year.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 22, 2014, 11:59:00 am
Hi Guys!   :)

Boyd:  Yes, in almost every case, all but a very thin border needs to be removed from each panel.  This thin border allows one to attach the PE and maintain the raised appearance of the panel.  As you know, the instructions that come with the paragrafix kit are very good.


So, the precious little bench time this week was dedicated to getting some clothing on the figures I had ready to dress.  The Star Trek uniforms are too form fitting for the crew of the Flying Sub.  Plus, Chief Sharkey/Nelson are a bit more "stocky" than Captain Kirk!  ;D

I'll just show what I did on one figure to keep it somewhat brief.


Ok, the primed figure was outfitted with some thin, brown paper clothing.  This was glued on with white glue and then painted over with a 50/50 white glue water mix.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03989_zpsd77aeeb4.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03989_zpsd77aeeb4.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03990_zps721fcd8c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03990_zps721fcd8c.jpg.html)


A little ball of Kleenex was placed under the "shirt" to fill out the gut a bit  ;D

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03991_zps13510f0a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03991_zps13510f0a.jpg.html)


An overlay of tissue paper was applied to get some wrinkles and texture happening.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03995_zps7a522276.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03995_zps7a522276.jpg.html)


I added a collar, button strip and pocket flaps (not shown) to add more detail.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04000_zpsd04b6660.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04000_zpsd04b6660.jpg.html)


Here he is with a basecoat of uniform green.  It's still wet and shiny yet.  I tried to keep a bit of a sunken area around the waist where the seat harness will go around the driver.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04002_zpse7695aae.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04002_zpse7695aae.jpg.html)


Kowalski is getting the same treatment, but will be wearing the red coveralls.
I'll continue painting these guys up and working the PE the rest of the weekend.

Thanks for having a look Guys!!  :)

Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on March 22, 2014, 12:07:44 pm
Nice job adding the details to the figures and thanks for answering the PE question Jeff.

As I remember it, poor old "Ski" got hit over the head with a pipe or wrench or something many times when he was on guard duty.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Joe Boss Red Seven on March 22, 2014, 01:04:10 pm
Nice work so far. It looks like you are having fun, and that is cool.
 8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 22, 2014, 01:49:07 pm
Excellent work on the clothing!!! Live the detailed info and pics!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on March 24, 2014, 01:25:54 pm
"He's a model maker."
"No, he's a tailor."
"No, he's a model maker AND a tailor."

Nice work Jeff
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Caladonis on March 24, 2014, 02:27:54 pm
Looking great, love the details on this
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 24, 2014, 06:21:49 pm
I think "Ski" had the hardest head on the boat! Kind of like the "sacrificial ensign" in Star Trek. Only "Ski" lived to get whacked another day. Awesome work on the figures!! I am really enjoying following you on this.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 24, 2014, 07:17:39 pm
Hahaha!  Yeah Ski...Definitely the whipping boy!  He sure did add some comic relief.  Although, when I watch the show now (I'm pushing 50) the whole thing seems like comic relief!!  ;D  Something kinda cool about it even now though.


So, aside from putzing around a bit with the figures, I mainly worked on the front console this weekend.  It was a challenge!  :o  A lot of very careful carving.  I was so zoned, I didn't get any progress pics, but carving is carving. :)


The backlight gels are just dry fit, so not quite centered up properly yet.  I'll use micro crystal clear to affix them permanently after the painting is all finished.  No lie, I bet I put 5 or 6 hours in on this bit over the weekend.  Loved every second of it!!  :) 


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04014_zps0d2fdc07.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04014_zps0d2fdc07.jpg.html)


Here you can see the ultra small perforations in the PE

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04013_zpse96c2e08.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04013_zpse96c2e08.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04010_zps830a4e84.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04010_zps830a4e84.jpg.html)


Thanks for checkin' it Guys!  :)   

Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: big game nerd on March 24, 2014, 07:33:20 pm
Looking sweet Jeff.  Enjoying what your doing is the best part of this.  That center piece is going to look great
Take Care
Steve
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: The Model Dude on March 25, 2014, 10:30:55 am
 :o  All I can say is wow.  Your are doing fantastic work here.  A very clean looking build that is looking really nice.  Looking forward to the next update on this one so I can enjoy more eye candy!   8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on March 27, 2014, 01:54:42 am
Cool method of "dressing" your figures Jeff, I will keep that one in the locker!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: luminous on March 28, 2014, 03:27:48 am
Looking beautiful Jeff.
Awesome figure and photoetch  work. Your console back lighting is brilliant too.
Look forward to the next update mate.
Ollie
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: DizWhiz on March 28, 2014, 09:31:15 am
Great, clean work on the PE and the instrument panels.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 28, 2014, 08:15:55 pm
The dash/instrument panel is looking sweet!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 28, 2014, 09:55:11 pm
Cool method of "dressing" your figures Jeff, I will keep that one in the locker!

Agreed! wish i had known that when doing my ewok!
That P.E. looks sharp man!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 30, 2014, 08:29:12 am
Hi Guys!

Thank You all, for the comments and interest!  Much appreciated!  :)

This weeks task was to create a means of running fibre optic to the top rack on the front console.
This little piece is molded solid and presented a challenge.  After noodling on it, I decided to make it easy on myself!  ;D



Here you can see the "top rack" above the centre viewing screen, along with the PE that goes over the front of it.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04018_zpsb4c29a7b.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04018_zpsb4c29a7b.jpg.html)



I decided to hollow it out from the topside  :o  You will notice a good thickness of plastic was left behind the PE piece.  This will hold the FO strands straight and square to the panel.  After the PE was applied, holes were drilled.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04021_zpsbfcad2ac.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04021_zpsbfcad2ac.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04024_zps6f6ec63e.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04024_zps6f6ec63e.jpg.html)


A new sheet top was glued on, trimmed and sanded to shape.  This method did require some fairly precise work, but wayyy easier than trying to hog it out from the underside I think.
Wayyyyyy  easier!!!

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04026_zps6c6647cf.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04026_zps6c6647cf.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04028_zps3c83a53b.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04028_zps3c83a53b.jpg.html)


Two of the three light boxes are taking shape.  The round holes in the side will take a 3mm LED.  This front console is a tricky little piece to work on.  It's a tight area to work in and there is a lot going on with it. 

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04027_zps3740f712.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04027_zps3740f712.jpg.html)


And finally, fixing to get some primer down!  ;D  I taped off as many glue points and edges as possible.  I'd rather spend a bit of time to mask this stuff than have to scrape and sand off paint  ;)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04029_zps2e5fdb0d.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04029_zps2e5fdb0d.jpg.html)


As always Guys, thanks for dropping in and having a look see!!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Lufty on March 30, 2014, 11:25:55 am
Your console is looking great! I appreciate your input on the build and details. I'd like to try some PE parts out on a Voyager I have on hold in the future, and your input is awesome!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on March 30, 2014, 12:00:46 pm
wonderful work Jeff cant wait to see more
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on March 30, 2014, 12:45:28 pm
Agreed! Hungry for more cool pics. Hope they re-issue this kit soon.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on March 30, 2014, 01:17:17 pm
Love the work in the console! Very sharp!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: big game nerd on March 30, 2014, 04:04:54 pm
Looks great Jeff.    Great idea to use the light boxes with the FO, I think you just solved a problem for me.
Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on March 30, 2014, 04:52:35 pm
Great way to solve your lighting problem!
Question? what did you use for the inserts in the displays? I saw you referred to Gels earlier. With the demise of Ektachrome or any other slide film I was wondering how others were doing this.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 30, 2014, 08:47:43 pm
Thanks again for the kind words Guys!  I'm hoping to get out from under the front console (so to speak)  over the coming week.  It is indeed a trying little sucker.  But still very enjoyable.  :)

@Steve:  Happy you were able to get something out of this thread Steve.  Although, I got the idea of supplying FO with light boxes from Boyd.

@Brad:  I may have mistakenly referred to the display screens as gels Brad.  They actually came with the Paragrafix PE kit.  There's also a beautiful set of JT Graphics decals to go over the brass.  I can't say enough good things about this aftermarket PE kit!

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC03936_zpsd7bd197a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC03936_zpsd7bd197a.jpg.html)


Again Guys, I surely am enjoying the wide variety and top quality of all the works going on in the Spring build!!  It's a treat to watch!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: spacepirate197x on March 31, 2014, 08:51:07 am
Great work as usual Fumbles.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on April 01, 2014, 01:48:04 pm
Sweet work on that dashboard Jeff.....  where's the ashtray?  :b

Wolf
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on April 01, 2014, 02:05:47 pm
I have to get caught up here Jeff, but the figure details look great. It gave me some pointers I never knew. I like the PE work. It may have taken you some time, but defiantly worth it! Great Job!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Joe Boss Red Seven on April 05, 2014, 10:25:59 am
Again Guys, I surely am enjoying the wide variety and top quality of all the works going on in the Spring build!!  It's a treat to watch!  :)

Yeah it is!
 8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on April 06, 2014, 09:47:07 am
Hi Guys!

Ok, finally got the front console all wrapped up!  ;D

It's 100% self contained with zero light leaks!  ;D

So, when the time comes, a couple blobs of solder, a couple blobs of glue and BAM...Installed!  ;D

It's hard to believe the stupid number of hours spent on this part, which is no bigger than an index finger.  :o  I think every various supply and tool I own were put to use on this little sucker.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04050_zpsd56a4a94.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04050_zpsd56a4a94.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04053_zps2623b447.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04053_zps2623b447.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04049_zps16c22b2a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04049_zps16c22b2a.jpg.html)


I've pretty well got the lighting for the floor hexagons installed.  Also, the battery hatch and switch install are figured out.  I've started the prep work on the lower hull and hope to get some primer on it today.  More to come Guys.  Thanks for having a gander!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on April 06, 2014, 10:25:05 am
Amazing! It looks real. Time well spent, IMHO. Great work Fumbles!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on April 06, 2014, 03:37:26 pm
Hey, thanks a lot packratt!  I am pleased with the result...Just seemed like it took forever to get there.  I guess I better pick up the pace!  :)
Thanks to all you Guys for the interest here!  I really appreciate it  ;)

A bit more here for this week Guys.  The floor turned out to be a real PITA to light.  It pretty much rests directly on the docking ring, which of course runs right through all three hexagons  :'(  As a result it's very difficult to get it lit, let alone with even light.  :(  Ended up putting on some very thin sheet styrene to diffuse the light and hide the ring.  Also added some thin foam packing sheet to give a bit of clearance as well as help diffuse the light.  I put down some foil tape to light block and reflect.  The results are not 100%, but I did my best and that's gonna be that!!  I'm moving on!!  I neglected to get a pic of it when it was wired up for testing, but I'll put one up in a future update.


I want to have the power source on board.  This means battery power.  Therefore, access will be needed to change out a dead battery.  This little chore went amazingly well.  :)  There are hatches molded on the underside of the hull...I presume for landing gear.  I cut one of them out and rigged it to go on and off easily.  Worked out very well!  :)  The switch went in beautifully too.  I rummaged around in my "switch drawer" and found a nice little push on-push off switch.


Anyway, a picture is worth a thousand words, so here we go.


Here you can see the cobbling explained above, on the underside of the floor and the lower hull in order to get some light coming through the hexagons.  Did I mention this was a major PITA?!!

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04057_zpsec5dbae0.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04057_zpsec5dbae0.jpg.html)


Here's the battery hatch.  A metal tab was epoxied to the hull and a magnet to the hatch.  Some strip rails were put on the sides of the opening to keep the hatch flush.  It sits very nicely and goes on and off like a champ.  I'm really happy with it.  I thought it was going to be a struggle.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04058_zpsb1820506.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04058_zpsb1820506.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04059_zpse1dd7d46.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04059_zpse1dd7d46.jpg.html)


Battery hatch sitting pretty and some bodywork down.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04060_zps66723346.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04060_zps66723346.jpg.html)


I carved out a spot for the switch and a hole for the wires to pass.  It's a friction fit so it can be very easily replaced if needs be.  (That means it'll work forever!  If it was epoxied in, it would fail for sure!  ;D)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04055_zpseea42582.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04055_zpseea42582.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04056_zps5899fd7b.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04056_zps5899fd7b.jpg.html)


Last but not least, some primer down.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04061_zps2d6cbb6d.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04061_zps2d6cbb6d.jpg.html)


 Well fellas, that's me for this week.  Sorry this report was long winded.

Take care Guys and thanks for checkin' it!  :)


 



     
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: big game nerd on April 06, 2014, 05:18:19 pm
That is certainly time well spent.  The console looks awesome.  Nice even light and the panels show up crisp, great work.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Lufty on April 07, 2014, 03:53:53 am
I really like the battery hatch idea with the magnets and friction fit for the switch/wiring! Super cool you can get in there if repairs need to be made! Wow!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on April 07, 2014, 06:57:57 am
Super detailed work as usual Jeff, loving you build logs!!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: 3rdplacetrekkie on April 10, 2014, 10:29:55 pm
Most excellent!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on April 11, 2014, 04:03:25 pm
You always put out such clean work Jeff....  not sure of all your methods but surely a pleasure to see the results.

I've got to get one of these kits in my stash....  hope you are correct about a possible re-issue soon.

Here's one I happened upon surfing eBay....  only 11 hundred credits....  (no bidders yet)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191132230911&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

:b
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on April 11, 2014, 06:43:32 pm
This is a good news/bad news type of info. I emailed Moebius about a week ago, inquiring about a re-issue of this kit as well as the 2nd season version of the Seaview (the 39" one). Their reply was that while they have no current plans to re-issue these kits, that doesn't mean they won't. Hopefully it won't be too long. Of course, I can't say how forthcoming they were with me since I've never had previous contact with them, and am not a professional builder.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on April 12, 2014, 07:31:46 am
OK Dan!  Well, I guess patience will be in order then, to see if it is re-released.


Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Joe Boss Red Seven on April 12, 2014, 08:19:09 am
Good work Jeff!
 :)
You are making good progress on your build!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: DizWhiz on April 13, 2014, 10:26:50 am
Excellent work and great idea on hiding the battery.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on April 13, 2014, 01:27:54 pm
looking outstanding Jeff! I like you hatch set up.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: The Model Dude on April 18, 2014, 01:21:37 pm
First off, this build is looking great!  Secondly, thanks for sharing so much within your thread; you have no idea how valuable that information is for us new guys!  Keep up the great work, and keep having fun man!   8)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: big game nerd on April 18, 2014, 09:33:03 pm
Darn you Fumbles.  I had to search one out.  Luckily a shop about an hour away still had one.  I will refer back to this when I start mine.
Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on April 19, 2014, 09:16:12 pm
Darn  you Big Game! I have been looking for one for months! If it weren't for bad luck I would have no luck at all! Congrats on your find!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on May 02, 2014, 08:50:33 pm
Hey Hey Hey Fellas!

It's been a long while since I've updated the build here.  Sorry about that Guys, life's been getting in the way of the fun.  Anyway, it's been slowly moving forward.  The interior walls are all but complete.  Just need to let the decals thoroughly dry, then spray on some dullcoat.  It's supposed to rain here all weekend.  If that holds true, I'm gonna put in some serious bench time!  ;D

Here's a few shots of the progress.


The rivet detail on the seats was absent on the kit parts.  It was plainly obvious in the show and looked way bigger than rivets.  A|lmost like carriage bolt heads.  A little blob of white glue was applied with a toothpick to approximate the detail. (Don't worry Guys, I didn't count the rivets!  ;) ;D).

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04063_zps07756545.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04063_zps07756545.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04078_zps325fed89.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04078_zps325fed89.jpg.html)


I added some fibre optic to Chief Sharkey.  Surprisingly, it didn't snap or buckle when I pulled it tight into his head.  Hey man, it's the sixties!  Everybody smoked!  I'll light this fibre with a flickering orange LED.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04072_zpseeb48d9e.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04072_zpseeb48d9e.jpg.html)


More sixties style flare in the form of eye candy  :P.  The female figure from the TOS bridge kit was reworked to suit my needs.  Her arms were cut into pieces and repositioned.  The hairstyle and miniskirt will work out great!

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04067_zpsd24df29c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04067_zpsd24df29c.jpg.html)


The interior walls...

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04065_zpse29f92d8.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04065_zpse29f92d8.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04073_zpsb0a309fa.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04073_zpsb0a309fa.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04076_zps393c6ebd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04076_zps393c6ebd.jpg.html)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04077_zps23fa346c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04077_zps23fa346c.jpg.html)


The lit shots are over exposed.  In person, the colours are much more vibrant and you can actually see the needles and dashes in the two half moon lookin' gauges.  Pretty cool!


So, if it does rain all weekend, I'll be hitting this build hard!!  But first, I'll be taking my Saturday morning coffee and having a good catch up on everyone's Spring Build projects!  Cheers Guys!  :)
 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on May 02, 2014, 09:23:18 pm
Those walls are very impressive Jeff.....  must have taken a lot of patience? Nice catch on the seat "rivets" too.....   I forgot all about them till you mentioned it and then the memory came back clearly.

The flying sub was one of my favorite day dream subjects when I was a kid.... you're doing a killer job on it!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: PiperCPO on May 03, 2014, 10:05:29 pm
Those bulkheads and seats are looking so good! Beautiful work.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: sabreuk on May 04, 2014, 03:31:07 am
Agreed with piper you have done an awesome job on this build so far fumbles.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on May 04, 2014, 08:36:33 am
Looking great Jeff. Man I love how those P.E. parts look! They really make it pop. Interested to see how you mount it.
I've pondered that as the model doesn't really have a good spot for attaching anything.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on May 04, 2014, 10:54:58 am
Awesome Jeff l always love the detail you go into.  I really camt wait to see this project completed
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on May 04, 2014, 07:25:47 pm
Thanks very much for looking in and commenting on the thread here Guys!  Appreciate it!  :)


@ Steve:  Great news about getting the kit Steve!  However, I refuse to be held responsible for
                your hoarding of models!!  ;D

@Boyd:  I plan on using the kit supplied stand Boyd.  I'm sure you know, it's a really nice clear stand.  That's the main reason I wanted to go with self contained power.  I just couldn't see a tidy way of routing wires down the stand.

A fair amount of work done on the sub this weekend.  Not a ton, but fair.  I got the paint down on the lower hull (no pic yet) and I'm ecstatic with the result.  It's a big area so I used my el cheapo Badger 350 (I think that's the number) external mix gun.  It worked like a champ and made a really nice job.  Got a couple light boxes made up and installed.  The floor and girder support frame are now permanently glued in place.  Incidentally Guys, I nixed the floor lighting.  It wasn't a good look and was causing the floor to sit high.  It actually detracted from the look of the interior model so, off with it's head!  ;)  I've set the wall panels and "dashboard" in place dry, just to see how it's all going to fit.  It literally falls together.  Anyway, here's a few shots.


Light box fabbed up.  I found 2 white led's gave the desired effect.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04091_zpsd49ef4d6.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04091_zpsd49ef4d6.jpg.html)


and installed...

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04092_zps8b2052c6.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04092_zps8b2052c6.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04098_zps93e95098.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04098_zps93e95098.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04095_zps43d1dec5.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04095_zps43d1dec5.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04099_zpsc258dcb0.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04099_zpsc258dcb0.jpg.html)


Still tons to do considering my snails pace of building, but I'm bound bent and determined to finish this up by the end of the month!!

Again Guys, thanks for the interest and for looking in here!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Armandodlc on May 05, 2014, 12:26:26 am
Fantastic...some great tidbits here for when I build mine (who knows when that will be!)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: wolf 359 on May 05, 2014, 03:35:24 pm
Excellent job Jeff! The PE parts look great and I love the smoking guy! Light them if you got them.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Baabaa214 on May 06, 2014, 06:32:07 pm
Looking great
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: billski on May 07, 2014, 12:50:32 am
Looking sweet Jeff, she is coming along, I have no doubt that you will finish on time
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on May 07, 2014, 03:50:25 pm
Looking good. Funny, but it never occurred to me that the rear access hatch was off center inside and on center outside between the two turbines, until I saw the serpentine tunnel in your photo. And I built the old Monogram(?) kit many years ago. I wonder if they altered where the inner hatch was in that kit, even though it wouldn't be screen accurate?
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on May 31, 2014, 10:01:17 pm
Hi Guys!  :)

Well, unfortunately the Flying Sub won't be finished by the contest deadline.  I've just been way to busy with work and the myriad of other things going on this time of year.  In fact, I've not sat at the bench since my last update.  I apologize to you fellas that were looking forward to seeing this one completed.  I will definitely keep any and all progress to the build posted here at SFMA.  Congratulations to all who participated!  Incredibly high level of model work here Guys!   A genuine pleasure to watch.  Good luck to you Guys who have entered for judging!!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on May 31, 2014, 10:19:39 pm
Ahhh...  I was just wondering where you were at. That's a shame you can't make the dead line Jeff....  I know exactly the feeling though, things keep coming up so often when I try to plan for fun instead.

Too nice of a build not to finish up though.....  I'll definitely be watching for your updates.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on May 31, 2014, 11:54:49 pm
Will be looking forward to seeing the finish Jeff. Thanks for participating in the contest and doing a great job on your build logs.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on September 18, 2014, 05:11:59 pm
OK...Fair warning Boys...This thing is back on the bench!  I unpacked and dusted er off last Friday night.  Been picking away at it ever since.  Should have something to show by the weekend.  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: r0bert on September 19, 2014, 02:15:57 am
Well, I just finished last November's group build, as wall as the one from July!
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on September 19, 2014, 09:56:40 pm
I'm still working on my Jupiter 2, and it's not nearly as involved as your build FT. Started it on March 30...not done yet. ??? You did some fine mods on yours. Again, wish Moebius would re-pop this kit.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: mvoyager0608 on September 20, 2014, 05:55:35 pm
I just followed your thread on the FS and you've literally knocked my socks off with your excellent work. I'll keep watching your post to see the final results.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on September 21, 2014, 09:49:33 am
Hey Guys!  Thanks for dropping in on the old Flying Sub saga!  :)

I picked this build back up by working on the reactor core wall.  I used 3 colour change LED's to bring it to life.  A light box was fabbed up and fastened to the back.  The Led's were wired up and installed.  Metal foil tape and black fabric paint were used to light block and eliminate the light leaks.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04303_zps224b42c1.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04303_zps224b42c1.jpg.html)


I mounted the clear piece that defines the circles, to the backside of the wall with micro crystal clear.  First, the clear piece was coated with a dull coat to frost it.  I was still able to see through it into the light box pretty clearly so added a thin piece of white sheet styrene to remedy.  It worked out well.  You Guys will have to take my word for it that the colour changes are very nice (I don't know how to put up video yet  ;D)  Each of the three lights move through a run of red, orange. yellow, green, blue, purple.  They are changing at different rates and produce a great combination of shades.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04304_zps33c27622.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04304_zps33c27622.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04305_zpsdfabbb74.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04305_zpsdfabbb74.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04306_zps85f80411.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04306_zps85f80411.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04309_zps86bae8e8.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04309_zps86bae8e8.jpg.html)

More soon,
Thanks for checkin' it Guys!!   :) 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: sabreuk on September 21, 2014, 11:11:33 am
Fumbles your doing an awesome job on this build I've knicked your pics and gona share them on tonight's euro hangout :) if you don't mind :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on September 21, 2014, 06:52:43 pm
By all means Craig!  That's what it's all about Buddy.  Helping each other out with the hobby we all love!   :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on September 21, 2014, 07:30:54 pm
A little more accomplished here fellas.

The engines/thrusters are lit up.  Each one consists of two kit parts.  There is the "can" itself and a slotted "cover" to let the light on through.  I first primed and painted the parts with Tamiya flat aluminum.  Then drilled a hole in the base of each can to accept a 5mm, red LED.  The engine cans were wrapped in foil tape and given the fabric paint treatment to light block. One of my main goals on this build is to have light emitting ONLY from where it is supposed to be!  I don't want any unexplained, ambient light appearing inside the sub.  Hence the constant effort to light block and seal all of the lit components.  Anyway, I wired the two red engine lights in series with a flickering LED. A resistor was installed on the flickering LED only.  This does a few things.  Number one, and the reason I did this, it makes the two red engine lights flicker.  On the downside, the three LED's are sharing the voltage required to run one LED.  However, they are still plenty bright enough, so no worries there.  The main problem with wiring in series, as many of you know, is that the odds of complete component failure increase.  If the resistor on the flickering LED or any of the three LED's themselves fail, that will open the circuit and the whole issue will go out.  Well, I let the setup run for 24 hours on the bench and no problems so it will be installed.  The flickering engines look super cool!!  A person can buy or make a board to get the flicker effect, but I chose to take the easy way out  ;D.  Hope it doesn't come back to haunt me!  :o


Enough chatter!  Here's the rig.  The little blob on the right is the flickering LED suitably light proofed...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04290_zps42d0090c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04290_zps42d0090c.jpg.html)


Here's lit.  Again, sorry no video to show the flicker effect ::)  Gonna have to work on that!


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04291_zps9b8a76a9.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04291_zps9b8a76a9.jpg.html)


 
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on September 22, 2014, 07:50:24 pm
More SciFiModelAction  :)   A quick update.


Paint work completed on the lower hull...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04287_zps4de811b2.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04287_zps4de811b2.jpg.html)


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Front spotlights installed...


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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04289_zps1bacdf1e.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04289_zps1bacdf1e.jpg.html)


Finally, some fibre optics on board...


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04295_zpsb0f9d542.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04295_zpsb0f9d542.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04297_zpsd085df47.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04297_zpsd085df47.jpg.html)


More to come.  Thanks for checkin' it!
Cheers Guys!  :)
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: ImWolf on September 23, 2014, 01:52:05 pm
Very nice work Jeff......   makes me wanna jump right in there and crash it into an ocean!

:b
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: TrekWorks on September 24, 2014, 08:32:46 pm
Looking really nice Jeff. Glad your back on it.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on August 05, 2016, 12:32:29 am
Coming this Saturday August 6, 2016.....The return of Fumbles Flying Sub!

Almost 2 1/2 years since build start and almost 2 years since the last
update.....The build goes on!

Completion is imminent!!

Tune in Saturday for more......
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Armandodlc on August 05, 2016, 11:12:29 am
Thats what I like...persistence! Its the same with me and my Refit...I will soon be resuming that long overdue build.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on August 06, 2016, 08:13:25 pm
You're right Armando.  Some of these larger projects, with lighting and PE take two or three runs to complete.  I busted this one back out on Thursday.  It's actually pretty close.  I've put a few hours in on it and there's not much left to do.  The bulk of the remaining work consists of the body and paint work on the upper hull.  I've taken some pics of the last couple days progress and will get them up as soon as I upload them.  Probably going to be tomorrow.  Be nice to finally have this one in the books!!   
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on August 07, 2016, 01:35:36 pm
OK Fellas, here's the latest of the final chapter on 2014's group build.
After looking the model over I made up a list of things to be done.  All soldering of final electrical tie ins was done.  Hot glue was used to secure and tidy the birds nest of wiring.  Now for some reason, I attached the rear engine bulkhead to the upper hull???  Not sure why I thought this was a good idea, as it results in an "electrical tie" between the two hull halves.  Much better to initially install it to the lower hull.  This way, all the lighting, wiring and power inputs are contained in the lower hull.  The upper hull can simply be "slapped" on.  So, I had to remove and replace the rear bulkhead.  Then, the engines were installed.  I decided to run two power options.  The 9 volt battery, accessible through the landing gear hatch (as demonstrated earlier in the thread) is great.  It allows for untethered display.  But, with 23 leds running, the battery is only good for 2-3 hours.  I decided to add a plug in power pack as well.  I chose a 9v  600 mA wall-wart.  I let it run for several hours and everything seemed to be fine.  Neither the resistors, or the pack itself got too warm.  I rigged up a plug in port at rear of ship.  So, it'll be nice to have the option of onboard battery or wall plug power.  The only caution with this set-up would be to NEVER have a battery in when plugged into the wall.  I would imagine the effect would be "charging" a non chargeable 9v battery.  I suppose one could isolate each power method with switches, but one would still have to remember to position the switches correctly.  OK, enough blather about that......

Here's some pics....


Power port


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(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04501_zpstyeqnwzt.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04501_zpstyeqnwzt.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04502_zpsj7tszzsd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04502_zpsj7tszzsd.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04504_zpsf4lxo637.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04504_zpsf4lxo637.jpg.html)


I mentioned way earlier in the thread that any "unexplained" ambient light was strictly taboo on this build.  So, I needed to black out the input led's and fibre optic strands.  I used black paint as well as black fabric paint.  (Fabric paint is definitely the bomb for cancelling light leaks!)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04496_zps0vir6z2c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04496_zps0vir6z2c.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04505_zpsvejboss1.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04505_zpsvejboss1.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04497_zpskcoku6fd.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04497_zpskcoku6fd.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04498_zpsagx8xr0n.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04498_zpsagx8xr0n.jpg.html)


This final shot shows the large sink mark around the edge where the "locking lip" is on the underside of the upper hull.  Putty, primer, putty.....you Guys know the drill!


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x458/fumblethumbs/Flying%20Sub/DSC04506_zpseyf7nizl.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/fumblethumbs/media/Flying%20Sub/DSC04506_zpseyf7nizl.jpg.html)


Thanks for looking!





 


Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: pakratt840 on August 07, 2016, 10:22:39 pm
Nice work Jeff.

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This final shot shows the large sink mark around the edge where the "locking lip" is on the underside of the upper hull.  Putty, primer, putty.....you Guys know the drill!

Is that the darker yellow groove running around the edge of the saucer? Yikes! I haven't even taken mine out of the shrink wrap yet. And yes, it is the older kit, not the re-tooled one Moebius released recently. Looks like I'll be doing the same putty, sand, repeat scenario too. :(
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: Armandodlc on August 08, 2016, 08:23:11 am
Some nice work there. Looking fantastic.
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: fumblethumbs on August 08, 2016, 07:19:31 pm
Hey Dan!  Thanks for dropping in.  Yes, you are correct about the location of the sink.  It's jumping out badly because I've given the hull a going over with a 600 wet sanding.  It's actually not  too terrible.  Anyone without OCD would be fine with it....So.....yeah.....no one here would be OK with it.  No knock on Moebius though.  Just the way it is with thick styrene parts.  Some of the "connection pillars" have the same thing going on. (You'll see what I mean when you do your kit.  Awesome kit though!!  I love Moebius kits!  Local shop has the 8 window Seaview on the shelf...Or is it the 4 window...Anyhow,  I'm busting to grab it.  AND  I just picked up the Bride of Frankenstein and Creature from the Black Lagoon kits.  Love me some Moebius kits!! 

Cheers Armando!  Thanks for peeking in!   
Title: Re: Fumbles' Flying Sub (Modified)
Post by: MattA on August 22, 2016, 02:54:40 pm
Nice, Jeff!  Looks good to me!  Keep up with the putty/sand/putty/sand....  We do all know the drill, don't we?