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Title: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 19, 2015, 03:05:41 pm
So,  I'm not too far on this, but am having a blast.  Anyway,  I am chopping out the lights around the saucer, etc. and fitting 1.8mm LED's.   I haven't done any light blocking, or even washed off the parts.

I haven't worked on a model for around 40 years so here goes.


Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 19, 2015, 03:15:48 pm
Sorry my pictures are so huuuuge on this.   :o
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 19, 2015, 04:11:50 pm
These might look better.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on November 19, 2015, 07:35:44 pm
Shawn, is your kit one of the older releases? I see engraved sensor grid lines on the edges of the saucer, where as mine are smooth with no grid lines.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 19, 2015, 08:26:32 pm
Yeah, my brother gave this to me brand new I think n the mid ninetys.   I hadn't even opened it.

He finally gave up on me ever building it.   I'm glad I waited 20 years to take advantage of all those cool LED's.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 25, 2015, 04:46:48 pm
Well,  I've found I have some issues and I'll get to that in a moment.   First off,  I drilled out the crystal and am going to put in a blue LED.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on November 25, 2015, 04:53:57 pm
Ok,  now for the issue.  This model is from like 1995 or somewhere in there.  An original AMT kit, and although that sounds really cool,  I'm finding out the hard way that the paragraphix stuff won't fit,  they are too big.    I didn't notice until I started chiseling down where the grills are going to go on the back of the saucer next to the shuttle bays.   As you can see
I really butchered the thing trying to make them fit.    I looked up pictures of another build on this forum and sure enough the grills fit perfectly in the polar lights kits.   There is no way that lounge area is going to work, nor the impulse engines.

I'm not sure what to do now.  Maybe buy an older AMT kit and replace the trashed parts, or just sell this kit as is, or what.   
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on December 17, 2015, 08:24:59 am
So after butchering the left side of the rear part of my ship I decided to start working on the right side and see if I could put a grille in that side.   

I started by cutting down the photo etch part from the original size to a smaller size as shown in the first photo.   

I then drilled out along the edge of the grille in the plastic, cut it apart, and made it smoother on the edges.  I tried fitting the grille along the way.    Not show is that I cut down the thickness of each side of the plastic so the grille would sit flush with the rest of the area.   I also flattened out the area where the photo etched triangle piece will go, although that needs to be flatter.

I glued in the grille and the last two pictures show the front and the back.

I'll take a shot this weekend on the other side of the rear panel and put that grille in over there.

Let me know what you think.

Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: QSquared on December 17, 2015, 11:50:53 am
Looking good so far. I never knew that the Paragraphix set would only work with the Round 2 re-issue of this kit. Based on your pics you seemed to have successfully adapted the photoetch to the original kit.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on December 17, 2015, 12:57:15 pm
Thank you.  I was really bound and determined to get that thing in there.    I think more of the PE parts will fit better but we'll see.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on December 17, 2015, 06:53:30 pm
I wasn't aware of that about the Paragrafix photo etch either. But as QSquared said, it looks like you found a good workaround. Nice job!
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on December 17, 2015, 11:11:25 pm
Thank you Dan.  I still have the other side to do but it should work out too.   I had to carve the plastic really thin and it finally gave out, but I was able to glue it all back together and it is really solid and will be more so after I glue the back to the saucers.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 05, 2016, 08:24:46 am
Here is an update.

The rear is ready to be glued on and is. 

The upper and lower hull have been light blocked and painted white. 

I have enlarged the shuttle bay areas and glued in the shuttle bays.   That was some pretty intense carving as you all know.  I used a rounded file to round out the corners and they turned out pretty well.   Not much room for light to travel above and below the bay so we'll see how all that goes later.

I have more progress that I'll post later.

Thanks for looking.
Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 06, 2016, 08:06:51 am
Looking good so far!

Keep going and keep those pics coming!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 06, 2016, 08:13:16 am
Thank you Steve.  It's a real blast to work on this.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: QSquared on January 06, 2016, 06:46:47 pm
Looking good Shawn! Very nice work on the shuttle bays!
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 07, 2016, 08:02:29 am
Thank you sir.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 07, 2016, 08:31:37 am
Okay, Shawn, a quick question...

Once you have placed the metal pieces, do you mask them off before you paint or what?!  ???

I haven't used them before and am curious about what your plans for them are - as far a painting.

Thanks and please keep the build going! I am learning alot!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 07, 2016, 08:43:00 am
Hi Steve,

Well, this is the first time I've been using the ParaGrafix and I had exactly the same question.  They are not intended to stay as the metal as they are (they are actually brass), you prime and paint them.  From what I understand you can prime them with the same primer that the rest of the model has for the plastic.  Some people however prime them with a specialized primer but I'm not going to do that with mine.  You would want to give them a little sanding before removing them from the brass plate they are hooked so the primer and paint sticks better.   This is a delicate process since some of these parts can easily be bent out of shape.

You would want to use adhesion promoter before the primer with all plastic that is on the outside of the model as well as the brass pieces.

They have tons of kits for different models.  http://www.paragrafix.biz/
Look under the PhotoEtch selection on the left panel of the page.  Great stuff and really sets your model apart.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on January 08, 2016, 03:11:17 am
I like what you've done Shawn. You can anneal the photo etch by placing fret on a HOT stove burner for 10-15 seconds, then, with tweezers, immediately dip in cool water. This makes the photo etch more pliable and
minimizes breakage on sharp bends. Your tackling a difficult build and looks like you've got it down. ;)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 08, 2016, 08:26:08 am
Thank you Phil.  It's a lot of fun getting back into the hobby.   I'm a bit nervous about the painting but I'll see how it goes.  I've never painted a model or used an airbrush before.   I think I'll do some practicing before. 

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Kuce on January 10, 2016, 07:04:55 pm
She's looking good and I'm anxious to see more.  I'm impressed with how you handled the curve balls this one threw at you.

Joe
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 10, 2016, 08:01:43 pm
Thank you Joe.  It has some challenges for sure.   Those Aztecs are going to look awesome on there.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 11, 2016, 08:06:09 am
Shawn,

Thanks for the insight on the ParaGrafix and their use!

Your build looks awesome!

Are you going to use a pattern of some sort to achieve the Aztecing or are you going to "eyeball it"?

As far as using an airbrush, I didn't have one and didn't know how to use it! Fortunately, there are many YouTube videos of the experts demonstrating it use. Unfortunately, I can't find the URL this minute. I'll get back to you on that! But after watching several of them, I feel competent!

Keep going! I really want to see this one completed!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 11, 2016, 08:12:31 am
Hi Steve,

I'm going to be using the aztec decals so that should make it look pretty good.  I have seen some of the videos on how to use an airbrush.  I think what that takes is tons of practice.  I am a big nervous about it, but the group has told me over and over that nothing is trash and anything can be fixed.  If I can't get the airbrushing to look good I'll just keep practicing until it does look good.

I'm really having a blast building models again.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: DaveMondo on January 11, 2016, 09:22:03 am
Looking really nice! I have a 1/537 Reliant sitting on my speaker in the back. Sadly, it's a bit of a hack job as I dove in before doing any research at all. I figured, hey I built a few models as a kid how hard can it be?  ;D

Looking forward to seeing the progress on this, the Reliant is my all time favourite ship design.

DaveMondo
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 11, 2016, 09:26:47 am
Thank you Dave.   I'm trying to do the same stuff that Nkalto did to his Reliant.  I hope mine turns out half as good as his did.  I have made more progress but need to post the pictures.

You should look into bringing yours back to life Dave.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: DaveMondo on January 11, 2016, 11:23:12 am
Yeah not sure it's possible to resurrect it.  :'(
I sealed it with 2 coats of clear and the decals are used up. Man those decals where a nightmare. Almost every single one fell apart in multiple pieces when I put them in the water. I didn't even touch them and the little red lines basically disintegrated. I salvaged what I could at the time, but let's just say my Reliant is best viewed from at least 6 feet away. While squinting.

If I ever want to get a Reliant going again, I expect I'll just buy a new kit. Plus then I could use the current to make a "post battle" version.

DaveMondo
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 11, 2016, 01:43:52 pm
Post battle would be cool for sure Dave

Here is some more progress, this time the nacelles.

I taped the nacelles where the raytheon effect will take place, light blocked the nacelles, then pulled off the tape.   

The next thing is I glued in the blue parts on the nacelles.  I secured them in with hot glue (not shown).

I did a test run with some single density LED's on the blue strip.  I diffused it with paper towel.  I have heard of this method and it worked well.   The light leaks in the blue area are filled in better than shown.

I fitted the nacelles with 5mm bulbs that I sanded down to diffuse the light.

Nkaltso inspired me to put the Fiber optics so I did that as well.  That was a close fit on the drill bit into the fin, but it worked.

I also drilled out the two holes at the fronts of the nacelles.

So what does everybody think about the paper towel as a blocker?  It sounds kind of half baked to me, but really worked out great.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 11, 2016, 03:48:52 pm
Shawn,

Looking great! Looking at your pics of lighting I know I have ALOT to learn before I attempt a lighted model build!

Press on!

Awesome!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: DaveMondo on January 11, 2016, 05:22:11 pm
Lighting is a complete mystery to me right now too. Watching.......:)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 11, 2016, 05:50:36 pm
Thank you fellas.  It's actually going well on the lighting, although I haven't soldered it all together yet so we'll see.  Haha

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: QSquared on January 11, 2016, 11:04:04 pm
Very nice work with the lighting Shawn! The fiber optics are also a very nice additional touch. I am curious about this "paper towel" method of which you speak.

Keep after it! Looking forward to seeing the build progress!
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 12, 2016, 08:08:35 am
Shawn, I love the lighting work you are doing and it is helping me work up the courage to do a lighted build!

About the paper towel...
I diffused it with paper towel.  I have heard of this method and it worked well.  So what does everybody think about the paper towel as a blocker?  It sounds kind of half baked to me, but really worked out great.

This is from being a noob, but why paper? Because of the weight concerns? Very curious about the technique!

Keep going! This is a nice build!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 12, 2016, 08:54:26 am
I learned about the paper towel thing from Wally at Star fleet model academy (http://starfleetmodelacademy.com/) when he was working on his 1/350 refit build.  It seemed like a strange idea, but it really works.  The picture that I posted is actually with some different LED tape, so the next round will be a bit less light blue in color.

Anyway, that's where I saw the method and I think it works really well.  I suppose there are other methods out there, but this was available and I thought I would try it.   Hopefully there are no long term problems with this method.

I'm new at this stuff too but am having a blast.

I'm still learning about the wiring part too, but have discovered that ground is common, so if you  have three lights or something, instead of having 6 wires, you can bring it down to 2 wires coming out if they are wired in Parallel so the amount of wires is reduced and if one bulb burns out, the others stay lit.   There are you tube videos out there about it.   You just have to kind of think it through and experiment, but I'm finally starting to catch on with help from the folks on this group.

Anyway, thanks fellas.
Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: TK Iain on January 12, 2016, 12:27:42 pm
Looking good Shawn.

But I'll be damned if I can find any reference to paper towels on the link you gave. Do you just place some across the lights you want to diffuse?
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 12, 2016, 12:34:17 pm
Thank you Iain.   Here is a picture of the paper towel. 

I basically cut them to size to fit over the blue grilles and glued the paper towels right over the grilles to keep them as far away from the LED's as possible.  They are hugging the blue grilles tightly however, they are just sort of floating on them.  Anyway, the paper towels are hot glued in.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: TK Iain on January 12, 2016, 04:04:11 pm
Gotcha mate!

Thanks for that Shawn. That wee tip is definately going to be handy in an upcoming build.

I owe you a pint.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: KRK on January 12, 2016, 04:17:34 pm
Looks very Good, Well Done!




KRK
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Kuce on January 12, 2016, 04:47:31 pm
Cotton works well as well as lightly sanding the LED's or putting in pretty much any  translucent material like styrene. 
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 12, 2016, 04:55:23 pm
Thanks fellas.   I was skeptical about the paper towel too, but what the heck.  It's pretty much free so I gave it a try.  I can see using cotton or styrene too.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 18, 2016, 08:54:02 am
Roll bar progress.

So I followed Nkaltso's lead and did some fiber optic bending for the lights that will be below the roll bar.

There is going to be a 3mm red LED for the under lights.

Shawn

Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 18, 2016, 09:03:29 am
I have decided to make my own photon firing system.  What I did was put in a piece of spru holding up some 3mm LED'S.   I hot glued on some FO and pushed them through the front and back of the photon bays.  One LED will fire the front AND the back of the port side, then the other LED will fire front and back of the starboard side.  Sure, they light up the front and back at the same time, but you can only see the front OR the back at any one time so that should work out pretty well.  I'm going to get a board made from Boyd at some point with the photon firing sound.  That's my hope anyway.


I tried my first try with the airbrush on the photon areas.  It turned ok, but I seemed to have worked off some of the paint, so who knows.  I might touch that up, but maybe not.

Anyway, let me know what you think.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 19, 2016, 07:51:14 am
She's looking great, Shawn!

Keep 'er going, Shawn! Keep 'er going!

Steve 8)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 19, 2016, 07:54:30 am
Thanks Steve.

I suppose the next step is to start painting the hull.... ugh. 

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 25, 2016, 08:23:33 am
I haven't painted the hull yet but decided to go ahead and start lighting my Reliant.

Since this is the AMT version there is very little room near the front edges of the saucer.  I originally had resistors hooked right to the LED's but the saucer wouldn't close so I scrapped that.

I added the LED tape, but as you can see I need more light blocking as the tape is showing through the hull.

I also am in the middle of adding two red SMD's under the saucer, but none of that stuff was glued in place.  Those things are pretty tricky to work with.

Thanks for looking,
Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 25, 2016, 12:16:20 pm
It's looking good, though, Shawn!

That mess of spaghetti in the saucer seems complex and looks like my hair would look if I even began to light a model!  ;)

Just a couple of questions:

In most of the models with lights, the interior black paint is done first. Is there a reason you didn't or is the white part of a different blocking process? I'm asking because I don't know.

Also, and to further show my ignorance, what is an SMD? (Small weapon of Mass Destruction?) Why are they more difficult than the strips?

But press on! This is a nice model to date and your persistence is inspiring!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 25, 2016, 12:38:42 pm
Thanks Steve.

Actually, I painted it black first, then painted it white after that.  Both block the light.  The white was to reflect the light better in the model.  To bounce it around.   I probably should have used two coats of black.  I held the model up to light, and it looked good, but the LED tape is super brighter than I realized.

My next step is to either repaint again in the problem spots, or use some resistors to lessen the impact of the LED tape.   I have other light leaks on the outer marker lights.   I'll figure out some way to block those as well.

SMD might as well stand for Small Weapon of Mass Destruction as they are super bright... (hahaha, nice one on the name).  It actually stands for "Surface Mounted Diode".   I got them from HDA Modelworks.  They are prewired with resistors.  Which is a good thing because they are about the size of two pinheads.  Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: TK Iain on January 25, 2016, 01:27:12 pm
Looking good there Shawn.

Everytime I see a Reliant build I want to do another. It's a pain in the a**e kit but so satisfying when completed.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 25, 2016, 02:04:10 pm
Thank you Iain. 

I keep running into setbacks and have to rebuild a few parts more than once, like the lighting on the roll bar, and now part of the bridge, but at least nothing has been trashed beyond repair.   

Hopefully it will stay that way.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on January 27, 2016, 06:42:51 am
Hi Shawn. Setbacks mean a better model in the end. You could assemble saucer sections and  paint outside with a black or dark grey primer before the white. You might also airbrush the LED
lenses a darker color, say smoke? It's not a 'solid' color more like a dark clear. Just throwing in idea. Hate to see you have to mess with those lights .
Mine has been on the shelve so long, I forget how far along it is.
Love what your doing here, looks really good!

Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 27, 2016, 08:24:17 am
Thank you Phil.  I have been thinking about it and since all of the LED'S are mounted to the bottom saucer, I should be able to mask off the small amount of work done to the top saucer, paint the hull black again, test for light blocking, repeat as needed, then paint it white again when I'm satisfied.

I like the idea of the smoke color.    I could try that stuff too.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 30, 2016, 07:17:48 am

Actually, I painted it black first, then painted it white after that.  Both block the light.  The white was to reflect the light better in the model.  To bounce it around.

"Ooooooohhh" in hushed awe whispered the Newb!

SMD might as well stand for Small Weapon of Mass Destruction as they are super bright... (hahaha, nice one on the name).

Thank you! Thank you! I do have my moments! After years in the military, I can make an acronym stand for just about anything! ;D

This is still looking good, Shawn! I agree with Phil,
Setbacks mean a better model in the end.

Keep going! In the end, when you see an awesome, completed build before you, you will be glad you did!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 30, 2016, 09:40:27 am
Thanks Steve, I'm still chugging away on it slowly but surely.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on January 30, 2016, 01:20:41 pm
I forgot to add this...you could use foil on the underside of the top hull to light block as well.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 30, 2016, 03:10:17 pm
Thanks Phil.   I just did more light blocking via spray can, but the foil is a great idea.

Shawn.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on January 31, 2016, 12:23:10 am
It's all about throwing ideas to each other. Use what you need and leave the rest. 8)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on January 31, 2016, 07:29:00 am
"Like your American salad bar"  (Big trouble in Little China).   Hahahaha
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Kuce on January 31, 2016, 09:07:29 am
if you use foil, make sure you keep an eye on your connections so you don't short something.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 01, 2016, 08:00:33 am
Gotta ask questions!!

...you could use foil on the underside of the top hull to light block as well.

How, exactly, would you use the foil? Do you spray some form of adhesive to the surface and burnish the foil in place before it dries?

if you use foil, make sure you keep an eye on your connections so you don't short something.

Having never done a lite model, how would you "watch the connections"? I know in home electrical works, you can use Electrician's tape to prevent shorts and arcing. Can you do the same with the lights and connections?

Sorry to hijack your thread, Shawn! :)

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 01, 2016, 08:24:34 am
Haha,  no problem Steve.

The foil must have no backing so it would short stuff out.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on February 01, 2016, 08:37:17 am
I use Bare-Metal foil. It comes with adhesive on it, but you can use regular foil with an adhesive applied. BMF is VERY thin and a little pricy, so weigh your options.
Kuce pointed out correctly that you need to watch out for shorting out your electrical work on the foil. I use shrink tubing to cover both LED leads and connections so it can't touch the foil, or each other.

Applying hot glue or silicon will also prevent shorting out. The main advantage is once applied, light blocking is 100%. Again, weigh your options.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 01, 2016, 08:43:56 am
Thanks Phil, I had seen pictures of this application.  I know some guys use just regular electrical tape too.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 07, 2016, 08:37:09 am
So here is the current update.

I'm working on the bridge lights and have yet to do the side lights, but anyway.  So I made a bracket out of styrene to place an SMD on.  I taped in the bracket to see how it fits. I then glued on a bracket so I could "tune" the SMD bracket.  I kept trimming back the styrene on each side of the bridge that I had added earlier.  After I tuned in the SMD I put glue on the bracket and held it in place, then zapped it.  I then added model glue to really hold it in place, then cut off the bottom tuning arm.  I had placed the SMD so that if you look at the ship from the front the light won't blind you.

Next I cut back a bit more of the styrene that I had attached to the bottom of the bridge, glued on some very small red SMD's to some styrene, and glued those in place.  Now keep in mind that the bridge is not attached so there are a ton of light leaks, also, when the big SMD is one it is hard to kind of see the red SMD's, so the last picture shows just the two SMD's.  In person the combination looks pretty cool.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on February 07, 2016, 05:34:57 pm
Looks like your nailing this Shawn. Love the effects! 8)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 07, 2016, 06:32:59 pm
Thank you Phil.  This is great fun.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Kuce on February 08, 2016, 03:29:25 pm
looking good
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 08, 2016, 03:36:44 pm
Thank you Joe.  Everything is grinding to a halt until I learn how to use an airbrush. 

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on February 08, 2016, 04:30:05 pm
Doing a great job with this build Shawn. The registry spotlight looks right on target.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 08, 2016, 06:28:53 pm
Thank you  Phil.   I get to work on it tonight. 

Shawn.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 08, 2016, 08:00:55 pm
Sheesh.  I mean thank you DAN, not Phil.  Sorry about that.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on February 08, 2016, 08:57:11 pm
Sheesh.  I mean thank you DAN, not Phil.  Sorry about that.

Shawn

LOL-quite alright Shawn. As long as Phil's not offended it's all good, Right Phil? ;)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 09, 2016, 07:21:52 am
Shawn,

It looks like you solved your light blocking problem. Well done! Did you end up using the foil or just paint or a combo of both?

Looking good!
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 09, 2016, 07:43:57 am
Thank you Steve.  Well,  I repainted the worst part, but then I used that tulip stuff that people on here use.  It's a paint that is in the crafts department of Walmart, but it doesn't really dry all that great so I have heard to use it only on the inside of the model.  If you use it outside it will dry, but will always be kind of spongy since it's made for fabric and is designed to flex.  Since the inside of the model never gets touched it doesn't matter how spongy it gets.  It's a really quick, cheap light block that you can just dispense right of the bottle.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 09, 2016, 10:12:15 am
Fabric paint?! Really?! :o

huh. I guess you use whatever it takes to make it work!

Cool thinking outside the box!  ;D

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 09, 2016, 10:26:54 am
Ha.  Keep in mind that I don't come up with any of this stuff.  I study tons and tons and tons of videos spanning from "Trekworks" to the "Angry Sci Fi Modeler" guy and just apply what they did.   "I stand on the shoulders of Giants" as the saying goes.

Anyway,  thanks as always for looking and commenting Steve.  I'm gearing up to start painting now that I'm starting to figure out the whole airbrush thing.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: DaveMondo on February 09, 2016, 08:03:37 pm
Ha.  Keep in mind that I don't come up with any of this stuff.  I study tons and tons and tons of videos spanning from "Trekworks" to the "Angry Sci Fi Modeler" guy and just apply what they did.   "I stand on the shoulders of Giants" as the saying goes.

Anyway,  thanks as always for looking and commenting Steve.  I'm gearing up to start painting now that I'm starting to figure out the whole airbrush thing.

Shawn

Hey Shawn,

Great looking job so far. Makes me want to take another stab at this kit one day.

Also I must know more about this "Angry Sci Fi Modeler guy". I searched YouTube and whatnot and can't find anything...? Interest piqued lol

Dave
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on February 09, 2016, 09:04:59 pm
Ha.  Keep in mind that I don't come up with any of this stuff.  I study tons and tons and tons of videos spanning from "Trekworks" to the "Angry Sci Fi Modeler" guy and just apply what they did.   "I stand on the shoulders of Giants" as the saying goes.

Anyway,  thanks as always for looking and commenting Steve.  I'm gearing up to start painting now that I'm starting to figure out the whole airbrush thing.

Shawn


Hey Shawn,

Great looking job so far. Makes me want to take another stab at this kit one day.

Also I must know more about this "Angry Sci Fi Modeler guy". I searched YouTube and whatnot and can't find anything...? Interest piqued lol

Dave
Dave, I happen to be a subscriber to the AngrySciFiModeler. Here's the link to his You Tube channel. Fair warning, if you are offended by off-color language, brace yourself. He's entertaining, but the censors would wear out their beeper on him.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrUVVMVkBtZX1HS0YSWQ97A
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 09, 2016, 10:25:47 pm
Thanks Dave.  Angry model guy is a riot!   His builds are really amazing too.  Very entertaining to listen to for sure.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: DaveMondo on February 10, 2016, 09:01:07 am
Cool thanks guys! Will check it out. I'm really hoping he yells at his models like I do when I building...  ;D

Dave
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 10, 2016, 09:35:44 am
He basically says what all of us are thinking.  It's a riot really. 
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 25, 2016, 01:13:17 pm
Alright, Shawn, you have kept me waiting long enough!

Where are the updates?  ;)

How goes the build?

Ever inquisitive...

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on February 25, 2016, 02:40:27 pm
Glad you asked Steve. 

Well, I've been working on painting the beast and had a really tough time figuring out the airbrush and finally went to a spray gun on my compressor.  In fact, I was so frustrated by the whole thing I was about the throw the whole hobby in the trash, but remembering wise words I've read on this forum "Put it down for a while and come back to it later".   That really kept me motivated.

Anyway, on to the build.  Haven't had time to do too much.  I worked on the grill lighting.

The first thing I did was cut out a piece of styrene I could put the light into.  I then cut out some of a plastic milk carton the size of the grille and put it in place. I painted the syrene, drilled a hole in it and put in an orange LED.

Now last night I was working on the rest of the lighting so the grills don't look all that clean anymore because I had to do a better job of light blocking on the navigation light below the grill.

Anyway, thanks for asking Steve.

Shawn


Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 29, 2016, 10:06:12 pm
Despite your set backs with the air brush, Shawn, it still looks like you didn't throw the hobby in the bin!

Galaxy Quest could be my all time favorite movie because of their motto "Never Give Up! Never Surrender!"

Take a break and come at it with fresh eyes knowing that other are excited to see your success!

Plus, it helps to be a little Klingon toward your build; "It is a battle that must be won for the sake of honor!"

It's looking good! Love how you limited the orange lights!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on March 01, 2016, 02:14:23 am
Steve is right! Don't EVER forget those words Shawn! Better to come back later with a fresher, more patient mind than the way you had to leave for a bit. I've almost threw a couple against the wall.

It took me a bit to get use to the airbrush. I think the reason I waited so long to try was mostly stubbornness on my part and when I began to see the results of other builders finishes (impossible with rattle cans) I started to realize I need to expand my technics to get the look I wanted. My first use of an airbrush is documented in the non scifi model section toward the bottom of the home page. 1/32nd scale corsair build. It's not a museum piece by any means, but I'm happy with it and glad I didn't give up. 

Question: Did you cut out the tiny lighting slits around the shuttle bay covers?
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 01, 2016, 07:47:09 am
Thank you for the encouraging words fellas.   I did, and do get frustrated, but it can all be fixed in one way or another.  Look at Steve's White Whale.  Talk about patience with that model. 

I was going to use the "other" saying in Galaxy Quest, "By Grabthars hammer", only it would have been just a claw hammer as I smash the model to bits.  Hahahaha.  Just kidding....mostly.

Thanks for the compliment on the orange lights.  I think that should look pretty cool back in those grills.

Anyway, those are paragraphix shuttle bays Phil.  They actually came that way.   I would have said that I could cut that straight of a line though.  Hahaha.   I'm pretty clumsy with an exacto knife.

We're all in this together fellas.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 01, 2016, 10:10:53 am
We're definitely in this together! :D

Thanks for the props! I will get the Whale done and you will see the Reliant complete!

Galaxy Quest to Gimli "Keep breathing! That's the key! Keep breathing!"  8)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 01, 2016, 10:14:47 am
Hahaha.  "I see you managed to lose your shirt"
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 04, 2016, 09:32:29 pm
WOW! You are my kind of people!

I infected my kids with using movie quotes from Scifi movies whenever possible and this is our favorite quote! Awesome!

I was looking over your build and was wondering if you are going to light the hanger decks on this thing as well? I kinda remember them being lit in the film.

Either way, I am looking forward to seeing this completed!

Keep going!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 04, 2016, 10:24:37 pm
Hahaha on the quotes Steve.  My family does that all the time too.

Anyway, yeah, the shuttle bays will have ambient light from all those led strips I installed.

Thanks for asking.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: TK Iain on March 07, 2016, 06:29:41 am
Looking good as always Shawn.

Been through your thread but seeing as this is the original issue of this kit are you use the upgrade parts for the windows/hull?
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 07, 2016, 08:21:48 am
Thank you Iain.  I'm just using the original AMT model without the resin saucer upgrades.  So far it has worked out well. The only problem I had so far was fitting the hulls together when the LED's were put in, but I moved the wiring around and it worked.   I will have to strategically place the circuit boards in there, but did a test fit and those look like they are going to fit in there too.

I'm in the middle of moving to a new house so all the model stuff is going to have to stop for months. 

I'm pretty sad about that really.  I love working on models, but I have to get ready to move.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 08, 2016, 08:21:12 am
Shawn, congrats on the "new house"!

We'll be looking for you when you come back!

Best of luck on the move!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 08, 2016, 08:24:50 am
Thanks Steve.  I'll still be here looking at builds in the mean time.

Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Kuce on March 08, 2016, 02:32:58 pm
She's looking good.

And the next time you get frustrated with the air brush -- well, rolling DOES help.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 08, 2016, 02:35:53 pm
Hahahaha,  Thanks Joe!   Rolling on the floor screaming is more my style.  hahahahaha.
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: pakratt840 on March 08, 2016, 04:12:23 pm
Good luck with the move, Shawn. And don't let the movers get a hold of your kits. No sense taking chances. ;)

Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 08, 2016, 04:32:12 pm
Thank you Dan.  I'll be the "mover" so hopefully it go ok.   ;)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: trekker9211 on March 09, 2016, 12:07:38 pm
Gonna miss ya while your moving! Protect that build like it's a cracked eggshell and see you when you get back 8)
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on March 09, 2016, 12:20:28 pm
Thanks Phil.   I'll be in here bugging you guys anyway about your builds..... somebody's got to do it.  Hahaha
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on August 09, 2018, 08:40:31 am
Hi all,

I'm back!   It's been 2 years since I've posted.  I'm done with the house remodel and am now back on board to working on my Reliant.

All the pictures are of 2 years ago.  I just never posted them until now.


I had added a wire harness type thing in the bottom of the hull.  Since then it is all wired up and ready to go.  I got that type of harness so the ship can be separated from the base if need be.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/848/43040785355_fba38c5e52_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28zngY8)adapter (https://flic.kr/p/28zngY8) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

I put a hole in the bottom of the ship to match the size of the wire harness.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/928/30077340028_5e9c49a741_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPQej5)Hole in hull (https://flic.kr/p/MPQej5) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

(I think) I used the sculpting putty around the harness.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1835/30077339848_7866edd487_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPQefY)adapter bottom (https://flic.kr/p/MPQefY) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr


Side view before the putty.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/940/43897694192_52ed94a7fb_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29T6a7q)adapter side (https://flic.kr/p/29T6a7q) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

Inside view.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/939/43897693772_1629a2f03a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29T69Zb)adapter top (https://flic.kr/p/29T69Zb) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

Since then I added all the wires.  Tons of them.  I didn't take a picture of that.


I moved on to the planetary sensor.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1772/43040785185_21b0da64f4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28zngVc)planetary start (https://flic.kr/p/28zngVc) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/852/43227056074_0e142d785f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28RPXLf)planetary block (https://flic.kr/p/28RPXLf) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/937/43040784955_3a3c96dc25_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28zngRe)planetary insert (https://flic.kr/p/28zngRe) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1840/43897693542_d116877b50_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29T69Vd)planetary on bottom (https://flic.kr/p/29T69Vd) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/941/30077339378_78ecc3dedd_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MPQe7S)planetary on side (https://flic.kr/p/MPQe7S) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

It ended up looking light this:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1832/43227055474_b421eec7c0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28RPXzU)planetary done (https://flic.kr/p/28RPXzU) by Shawn McClure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/160042490@N04/), on Flickr

I've done some other things since then.  I'm also starting the painting of the model. That is kind of hit and miss.

Thank you to MSgtUSAFRet (Steve) for the posting information and support. 

Thanks for looking,
Shawn
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 09, 2018, 07:26:42 pm
Shawn Back From the Dead!!

Thanks for the Kudos, Bud!

So far its looking good! Keep at it and welcome back!

Steve
Title: Re: My Reliant 1/537 AMT kit
Post by: Shawn McClure on August 10, 2018, 08:17:13 am
Thank you Steve, and thank you again for the posting help. 

Shawn