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Title: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 11, 2016, 08:32:20 am
Hey folks, once again into the fray!

Boxed my last scratch build for now, causing to much frustration with lack of progress as my job has picked up over the last 3 months.

I started work on a build I have planned for a good long while now, and made some impressive progress over the weekend. I'll be whipping together a refit Federation class Dreadnought. I'm still waiting on various parts for lighting from Tenacontrols, power connector for the stand, maybe some bits from federationmodels, custom decals from HDAModelworx, and paint masks from Cultmantv. So far it's still just prepping parts, removing kit plastic (adding some more), and getting all the little resin bits ready for use.

Presently have a few of the mods done, or at least ready to move forward since the glue had dried.

Next up, reinforcing the secondary hull now the glue has dried and getting that squared away. Putty, sand putty and more putty and sand to remove those hideous hull lines... Then light blocking, and deciding how to tackle this one.

Here are some preliminary pics of progress.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_053732.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_053732.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_054117.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_054117.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_054202.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160411_054202.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 11, 2016, 08:40:59 am
You're off to a great start, Jimmypop57!

This should be an interesting build as I haven't seen a refit Dreadnaught anywhere.

Where did you get your inspiration? Are you following any plans for this build?

Good luck and have fun!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 11, 2016, 08:42:11 am
Alright Jimmypop! This should be an excellent build. Any ideas on how your going to mount this yet? I really liked your wall mount on your BOP.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 11, 2016, 07:35:21 pm
@ MSgtUSAFRet 
This has actually bee something I wanted to try since I saw an amazing Ascension class dreadnought build by one of the forum members a while back. (http://scifimodelaction.com/sfmaforum/index.php?topic=1779.msg24795#msg24795). Not wanting to do the same thing, because I thought his was amazing, I looked around for other conversion kits and found the Federation Class dreadnought. Just so happens that federationmodels.com sells these and I picked one up 2-3 years ago now. Then I got a modified 537 refit upgrade kit from Don at DLM to accommodate the 3rd nacelle, window inserts, split impulse deck, and saucer mounted torp tubes (you'll see those later). Grabbed some decals from JT Graphics, and it has sat in storage for over 2 years. Decided it was time.

@trekker9211
I haven't decided yet how I want to mount it. I'll be using a 6 pin audio plug (might see if I can find an 8 for some added shenanigans), so wall mount is definitely an option. But until I get the secondary hull together, and see how well it balances out, I wont know for sure how I'm going to display it. There are a bunch of resin parts that add to the weight, and she was always a saucer heavy beast to begin with. I also have to keep in mind the torp board from tennacontrols Ralph modified for me needs to have at least 4 output wires for speaker and momentary switch (hence the 8 pin connector later if I can find a decent one).

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/FederationClass_USS_Federation09.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/FederationClass_USS_Federation09.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: AnythingSciFi on April 11, 2016, 07:41:56 pm
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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 11, 2016, 08:16:06 pm
I hear ya. From the prints, it looks like maybe the balance point (looking from the side) will be slightly farther aft than the normal mounting point for this ship. You can never tell with resin though. This will look awesome when your done.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 11, 2016, 09:41:47 pm
I hear ya. From the prints, it looks like maybe the balance point (looking from the side) will be slightly farther aft than the normal mounting point for this ship. You can never tell with resin though. This will look awesome when your done.

Have to wait and see. Mine wont be as long as the drawing, only having 6 hull sections instead of 8, but I only had one donor kit  8^P
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Shawn McClure on April 12, 2016, 09:59:53 am
That looks like it is going to be a cool project to work on.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 12, 2016, 01:03:18 pm
Have to wait and see. Mine wont be as long as the drawing, only having 6 hull sections instead of 8, but I only had one donor kit  8^P

Jus askin....but couldn't you dupe a couple of sections from parts you already have or would that upset the plans you have already made?

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on April 12, 2016, 06:38:56 pm
Egad that looks hard!  And so cool!  :o  Looking forward to hints as to how you kitbash this work of art!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 13, 2016, 05:58:21 pm
Not much to show for 3 days, work really drains right now..

Anyway I braced the secondary hull, started putty work, and I am attempting to scratch a decent looking torp launcher from kit parts. Progress is progress tho!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165311.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165311.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165304.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165304.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165325_1.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_165325_1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on April 13, 2016, 07:06:04 pm
What scale is this bad boy? Looks pretty big.  BTW, I gather the dreadnought has better speed with three nacelles, but what does it pack by the way of more firepower?  Of course, it wins the 'most badass looking' contest by a wide margin, but still...
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 13, 2016, 07:20:29 pm
This is in 1:537 scale, same as the Enterprise Refit/Miranda.

Lets see if I remember from looking at it...

3x bow torp launchers on the neck
2x aft torp launchers
14x top saucer / dorsal phaser banks
16x lower saucer / ventral phaser banks

Mine will have 4x additional torp launchers in a bow saucer mount.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181212.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181212.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181222.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181222.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181907.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160413_181907.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 13, 2016, 09:06:18 pm
Nice work JimmyPop! Are the extra phaser banks ship accurate or modelers discretion? I'm not being a judgmental fuddy duddy in ANY way, but I know nothing of this ship other than having heard of the name. With a name like Dreadnought, it better be armed to the teeth. Just curious my friend...great work!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 14, 2016, 07:57:12 am
I'll make them as accurate as I can to what they should be. DLMs upgrade kit comes with about 20 of the little round jobbies for it. Filling in the hideous grid lines should tone down the raised rectangles on the saucer and make them more flush. I'm trying to decide if I want to scribe in some of the panel lines again, or just keep the whole thing smooth (maybe just the saucer).

Question for folks that have done it: What and where did you find the clear pearlescent paints when azteking? Or is this just a pigment you add to a clear acrylic medium?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 14, 2016, 10:25:09 am
Here was a post a while back  http://scifimodelaction.com/sfmaforum/index.php?topic=2582.0
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 14, 2016, 11:51:10 am
I just noticed your 'scratched' forward torpedo launchers. Awesome work Dood!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 16, 2016, 02:25:57 pm
Well, I had every intention of light blocking this weekend... but those plans are gonna have to wait now, woke up to this
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/IMG_20160416_131735.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/IMG_20160416_131735.jpg.html)

Guess I'll have more putty and sanding to keep me occupied, with some EvE Online interspersed of course! Finished the scratch torp launcher. Needs a bit of sanding on the tubes, but I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_132101.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_132101.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_132120.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_132120.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 16, 2016, 09:23:40 pm
I wanted to get a better idea of what I am looking at so I pulled out the roll of tape and did a poor job of setting things up so I could take a look. I need to cobble a way to brace the neck. It has a significant amount of weight on the back and the front with the saucer on, so there will be a lot of pressure in a couple of places where the bonds will be weak if I just use glue.

I'm excited!  ;D

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_200920.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_200920.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201057.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201057.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201414.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201414.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201227.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160416_201227.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: krieg.17 on April 17, 2016, 10:24:12 am
Just a tip. If you are going to lose the fugly grid lines, the putty method doesn't work very well. I used half a tube then sanded and could still see them. I found it a lot quicker to just sand them off!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 17, 2016, 01:32:54 pm
@krieg.17 I'll keep that in mind. We'll see what it looks like when I can apply some thick primer.

Still snowing like crazy, can't light block anything, so I prepped (and in a few spots... rebuilt) the resin bits for the front of the saucer. Then I tried them out with a 2mm red LED. I might drill some windows into the sides so it's not as plain. What say you?

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122735.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122735.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122626.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122626.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122637.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160417_122637.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: krieg.17 on April 17, 2016, 06:52:48 pm
Looks great!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 18, 2016, 02:32:03 pm
Ah yes, life in Colorado in April! Your photon launchers are awesome. I always felt they should have added some more armament to some of these ships.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 19, 2016, 02:15:47 pm
Jimmypop57 this is shaping up to one excellent build!! if the pre-light blocking looks good now, it should really pop when it is done!

Nice work!

Are you going to display this next to the refit model, too?

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: hansebi on April 22, 2016, 02:41:48 am
I am loving these details, saucer launchers always peak my interest
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 22, 2016, 07:20:21 am
Thanks! I'll try to keep updates regular, but work is very tiring at the moment. Should be a sunny weekend in the 80s, so I'm hoping to get the saucers puttied up and apply light blocking for that and the secondary hull. Got all my electronics and 9pin connector for it. Other than the little random bits that need puttied and sanded after the fact, I'm hoping to get started on the nacelles shortly, and plan out my wiring. See if I can get some spot lights etc going. Lots of grandiose plans LOL.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 23, 2016, 11:34:36 am
Progress is slow. Mad props to anyone who has done this before. Much more intensive than I originally thought, and I thought it would be a pain then.

+2 hours in... not counting the puttying itself lol. My arm is tired now, gonna let the bottom saucer wait a few hours, haven't given my biceps that much of a workout in some time.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160423_103144.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160423_103144.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on April 23, 2016, 04:28:01 pm
Geeze, I'll give you a force assist on that putty work, but I don't envy you having to do it.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 23, 2016, 10:02:01 pm
Okay, JP57, I gotta ask, what kind of putty are you using?

I just got a "non-smoothy" 1/537 Refit and have been debating about whether or not to sand off the "tiles".

Sympathies for your arms and no doubt your shoulders, but it will be worth it when you get it all done!

Keep going! I am following with great interest. This is the first thread I have seen where someone attempted a Dreadnaught!

Excellent!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 25, 2016, 07:46:13 am
@ MSgtUSAFRet I'm just using squadron green putty. Hard part was figuring out a way to get it down fast before it started to dry. I took a bit of balsa wood, and used it like a cement trowel. It snapped in half after the first section. So I cut another bit of balsa, wrapped it in masking tape TADA! Then I put the putty on the end like toothpaste on a toothbrush and smoothed it out one section at a time.

Got the saucer section done with the first round of sanding to remove the grid lines. Then I hit it with a very light coat of tamiya fine primer to see the results. Not bad at all really, but notice I said "first round". The grid lines are almost gone, and the coat of primer is super thin, enough to ceiling light through. I'll spot putty the big spots I missed, and sand it again, then apply another thin coat of primer and see what we have going. From the pics below you can still see the gridlines, but they are almost gone. Once I get the "grid" gone, I'll re-scribe the section panel lines.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115331.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115331.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115339.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115339.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115347.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160424_115347.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 25, 2016, 07:52:24 am
Nice job!

I was thinking of using a rubber spatula to spread the putty but some balsa works, too!

You said "first round". Are you trying to make the grid lines totally disappear or just reduce their appearance?

Either way, this is shaping up to a nice build!

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on April 27, 2016, 06:35:49 pm
Why Squadron Green?  I've never used it, but I have used Tamiya basic (gray) and Squadron white.  Why fill and rescribe the panel lines?  (forgive me if you already answered that)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 27, 2016, 08:32:40 pm
No worries! I'm trying to get rid of the grid pattern AMT added to the MPC master mold to make aztec'ish patterns. They are hidious lol. Once I have them gone and a smooth surface, I'll scrib the triangular panels and circular lines back in.

Big bits are about done, will hit the nacells next. I have one more to carve up for the clear blue grills. More pics this weekend.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 29, 2016, 08:03:21 am
Ok, so I am debating with myself over these gridlines. Should I give it another pass of putty and sand, or leave the barely visible grid pattern (keeping in mind there will be a few coats of paint over it) to give it some depth? I'm leaning towards leaving the hint of the grid lines as they are. I still need to re-scribe the panel lines, hit the nacelles and the neck/pylons. Either way I really want to get started on the wiring layout. Got my boards from Tenacontols in a week ago, and my power connection has come in so I can start playing around with stuff. Going to use an 8 pin DIN connector for wiring so I got options (http://www.trianglecables.com/product/8-pin-din-female-panel-mount-connector-262.aspx). The inner casing for this works as a ground, so with speaker x2, ground through case, and 2x pins for a momentary switch, that leaves me with 4 pins to play with.

Here is the thought process right now:
 - Navigation beacons and strobes
 - Main lighting
 - Engines
 - Spot lights

Now what I would REALLY like to do, but have had no luck with the supplies I have, is set up a 6 channel RF remote and switches so I can turn it on remotely with all it's functions + fire torpedoes. I have attempted to set up another test with a 1:1000 refit light kit from tena and a 2 channel RF switch/remote, but so far while I can hear the switches going on and off, I can't get the board to light up with the remote.

Anyone ever done this kind of setup before? Could really use some pointers, even if I need to get an ardunio and RF shield and use that, I don't mind. I want this to be a one of a kind display (and I'm going to try to find a way to wall mount it if I can get away with it). Any ideas on how to get this remote controlled is much appreciated!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 29, 2016, 07:56:17 pm
Jimmypop57, once you get to the lighting and sound of model, I have no pointers to offer as I am out of my depth.

As far as the gridlines, I like the suggestion of the girdlines and brickwork rather than the having them scream at me from the model. I was thinking of doing the same thing when I start my 1/537 refit. I am very interested in your build!

Hope this helps!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 01, 2016, 12:18:18 pm
Quick update. It's been snowing and wet since Friday, so no paint/light blocking, BOO!

I'm talking with someone in the UK across the pond to get a remote control set up for turning stuff on and on, I'll let folks know how that goes.

Started drilling out RCS thruster ports on the 3rd nacelle (which needed some additional work to make the fins match up).
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_111049.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_111049.jpg.html)

Began working on the arboretum windows.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105704.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105704.jpg.html)

Using the same lighting technique I used for the refit in the secondary hull, cutting a bit of thin styrene for 3 LEDs, that bounce the light back from aluminum tape on the inside of the hull avoiding hot spots.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105652.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105652.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105644.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105644.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105617.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105617.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105523.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105523.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105447.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160501_105447.jpg.html)

And lastly got the alignment of the aft torpedo launcher laid out, and some holes drilled for the lighting. Still some fine tuning, as I need to straighten it out, wire, light block, epoxy putty to match, etc etc
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084101.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084101.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084107.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084107.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084116.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160430_084116.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Falkenhorst on May 02, 2016, 06:27:29 am
Amazing work!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on May 05, 2016, 05:34:37 pm
I never thought about the aluminum tape for hot spots, I was always worried about contact with the LED leads.  I paint black under the LEDs, and the Tulip fabric paint is really awesome for that.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 05, 2016, 06:51:00 pm
yeah, this is just the test. Still needs light blocking, but principle is the same. Light hits tape, reflects back onto the white styrene evenly illuminating all the windows.

Got first coat of black paint in for light blocking on the saucer today after work since the weather was good. Presently scribing appropriate panel lines back into the beast LOL
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 09, 2016, 08:09:13 am
Yet another weekend of storms after a weekday of sun lol. I did however get the saucer light blocked, and looking good. All the nacelles are prepped for DLM inserts and started looking at areas for spot lights and the RCS thrusters. Grabbed some 0402 SMD LEDs from HDX that are gonna be amazing for spot lights (just wow!). Worked on the bridge dome... probably inhaled  bit to much resin dust not being careful, but I got the back windows opened up, drilled for the strobe, and added a layer of .60 styrene to raise it up a bit and make the 3 windows more prominent. Also got in the first part of pearlescent white powder, waiting on the blue, and need to get get whatever Future is here in the US for mixing it up. Also saw something on adafruit.com that makes me think I can get the remote control options to work, although I am still in a convo about someone building something similar for me, I think this might work better and the price tag is awesome (https://www.adafruit.com/products/1097).

Nacelle Spot Light test -
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160507_023502.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160507_023502.jpg.html)

Finished Saucer putty work -
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_120233.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_120233.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_120247.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_120247.jpg.html)

Dread bridge work -
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_183148.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_183148.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_170837.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_170837.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_170814.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160508_170814.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 10, 2016, 07:33:17 am
Jimmypop57, This is looking fabulous!

I do have a question - if you don't mind - what did you mean by:

Also got in the first part of pearlescent white powder, waiting on the blue, and need to get get whatever Future is here in the US for mixing it up.

Is this so you can mix powder with the Future and make a clear, pearlescent gloss coat? If it is, how do you use it and what is your recipe - if you wanna share?

Thanks a ton! It's a pleasure following your build!

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 10, 2016, 10:39:08 am
@ MSgtUSAFRet, I haven't used these yet. The pearlescent powders are the additive, and the floor wax will be the clear acrylic medium. I plan on playing around with some sheet styrene and I'll definitely document the process for posterity lol. But my main guess here, is that I'll mix up some extra large batches adding either medium or powder till I get what I'm looking for. From the youtube vids I have been hunting down, looks like a little pearl powder goes a long way.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 11, 2016, 11:53:53 am
Suhweet!

Well, it would be an interesting few posts on the technique.  ;D

I have an NSEA Protector build coming up as well as a 1/537 refit and am very interested in seeing how this turns out!

Thanks!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 12, 2016, 08:48:56 am
No problem! I'm still waiting on a couple of things before I can get started. It'll be a slow process, as I only have time for a few hours here and there during the week + weekends if nothing comes up, like rain or snow lol. I'll be out of town for a week week so no updates until next Thursday  :(

I picked up some Pledge floor wax yesterday, and am still waiting for the pearl blue powder to arrive, as well as the RF switches from adafruit. Also need to reach out to Ralph over at tenacontrols and see if he has any pointers on hooking up the torp effects board. Plan now is to finish sanding, primer, and light blocking for the secondary hull (any ideas on how to do the arboretum without having to build one?). Once that is done I can start the set up for wiring and try to make it clean... last 537 refit was a rats nest, and I want to do it a bit cleaner this time. Then nacelles etc before I get to the neck and pull the aves epoxy putty out to fill in some spots and still keep the windows working. That neck bit is gonna be a pain, as I have to route wires/leds to the aft torp launcher, and probably some SMDs for the handful of windows I'll have there. Tight place to work with for sure.

For paint, I'll be building in assemblies, and will get to it as I start buttoning bits up. I have the dreaded aztec dummy masks, that I'll try to do in sections so they don't stay on the paint that long as they might dig deep and pull up previous coats, we'll see.

For paint it'll be a multi step process starting with a flat white base coat, then a clear pearlescent blue, masking, clear pearlescent white. All goes well I'll have the aztec pattern in blue and white shimmering as you change angles (wish me luck when I get to that step).

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160512_074636.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160512_074636.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 12, 2016, 03:20:14 pm
Change in plans. Spent about half an hour on the phone with Ralph from Tenacontrols, and we worked out a board with RF switches for my build. This is awesome, and I have to hand it to Ralph once again. Amazing customer service, and willing to take your ideas to make them work. Had a board planned out, and invoice sent within an hour of our conversation.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: simi on May 12, 2016, 07:36:41 pm
Cool news on the custom board!  The only thing I think you did wrong on your design is you forgot to connect the Flux Capacitor to the Mr. Fusion unit.  Common mistake.  ;D

Can't wait to see the results!

Cheers!

Simi
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 29, 2016, 12:36:53 pm
Alrighty! Time for an overdue update! Was out of town for a week, then as is normal, got slammed at work on the week back. However I did get a nacelle wired up this weekend, and most of the prep for the second one (third will wait for the secondary hull to be assembled).

Got all my tena boards in, and need to re-evaluate my power, as I no longer need an 8 pin connector. Now I can get away with 4. Anywho... Lighting for one nacelle done, not yet assembled as that will be an interesting process and I need some additional light blocking before I can seal that one up.

The wiring...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_105921.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_105921.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_105916.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_105916.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112323.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112323.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112234.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112234.jpg.html)

The potential outcome...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111822.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111822.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111829.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111829.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111839.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111839.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111906.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_111906.jpg.html)

And if you are wondering about the red LED at the bottom, that is for nav beacons in the Kwill sensors  ::)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112022.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160529_112022.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 30, 2016, 11:28:04 am
So the first part of any 2+ engine system is the first one, the prototype if you will. See how it goes together, make adjustments, etc etc.

I didn't feel satisfied with the flux chiller grill lighting either in full light or in simi-dark. So I added a sanded 3mm crystal clear blue LED, aimed at the aluminum tape. To further smooth out the hot spot it created, I took a piece of .30 (I think?) styrene and temp taped it to the resin part to see. Came out much better, and as always the camera washes out the LED, but it gives a almost perfect uniform glow. Once the black paint goes on for the grill ridges, it should tone that down even more.

Now I'm ready to light block the bits, set up the port nacelle, and seal them up after an 8h light test.

Added LED:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_101527.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_101527.jpg.html)

In full light:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_101509.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_101509.jpg.html)

In the dark:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_102038.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160530_102038.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 31, 2016, 05:06:49 am
Jimmypop57,

Thanks for the closeups of your nacelle lighting! The different techniques you showed gave me some ideas for my current build!

Love the effects you have done! Okay, I gonna show my ignorance as a newb but, what is a kwill sensor?!  ::)

Keep up the good work.

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on May 31, 2016, 07:32:41 am
Hey MSgtUSAFRet, it's just another resin add on  ;D (actually I got it wrong they are KWIL sensors, added an extra "L" there). But I figure you have a starship that has roughly 3x the firepower of a Constitution refit, it's gonna need additional sensors to ensure what it's aiming at knows it's getting aimed at!  8)

Found it cruising the resin bits on www.federationmodels.com

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/2016-05-31_0627.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/2016-05-31_0627.png.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Lewilsons on June 05, 2016, 09:00:52 am
Cool build, like seeing these kinds of kit changes.

L
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on June 05, 2016, 02:11:29 pm
Thanks Lewilsons.

Things are slow, but I model at a very slow speed. Anywho.... Worked on some fun stuff, boring stuff first!

Got a bit done with the nacelle, trying to make the grill look decent, but bogged down with house work. Still a bit off, but getting there, ignore the light leak around the flux chiller grill for now
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_124218.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_124218.jpg.html)

Also did spot work on the secondary hull: (boring sanding time!)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_125025.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_125025.jpg.html)

Needed an arboretum, sooooo...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130123.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130123.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130057.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130057.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122152.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122152.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122201.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122201.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122227.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122227.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122514.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_122514.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130156.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130156.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130218.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130218.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130235.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130235.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130246.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160605_130246.jpg.html)
 
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Tankton on June 05, 2016, 02:27:54 pm
Great  arboretum. Looks better than my transparencies. I will have to try that
on my next build.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on June 05, 2016, 02:48:11 pm
@ Tankton, yeah I was going to use the transparencies to save myself the time. But one thing lead to another and I built one instead. Still some issues to figure out with it like the side walls that don't match, but depending on how I get windows in there it might blur that out a bit. Thinking about taping them up from the outside, and filling with acrylic floor wax and letting them sit till it dries. Not sure how that will come out tho.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on June 05, 2016, 04:40:17 pm
Just have to say the arboretum is just showing off.  It's like someone comes over to your house and you say, 'dig the models' and they say 'cool' and you say, 'no, dig the models!'  And then they lean in and say, 'holy crap!'  Then you wink and say, 'have a beer.'

Totally loving your work.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on June 05, 2016, 08:27:39 pm
Okay, did somebody "Beer"?! Besides, I don't need a second invitation to geek out over your models, Jimmypop57!

The arboretum is too cool!

Looking Great! Keep it going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on June 18, 2016, 09:36:48 am
Not much to show for the last 2 weeks, work is hammering me at the end of the quarter yada yada. Still working on smoothing out the nacelles, and figuring out wiring layout. Waiting on a slow boat for my power connection to get here before I can start planning out the secondary hull wiring. No significant work worth showing pics of at the moment. But I have a 4 day weekend coming up I plan on getting some work done.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on July 03, 2016, 09:00:22 am
Been busy with work and a week long business trip so things went on hold, just got back Friday.

Bout all I have done is first round of putty on the starboard nacelle, the neck / photon launchers.

Started to play with the fiber for the RCS thrusters on my one completed engine (man this is taking me forever, sry guys). Ran into a snag and had to perform some surgery. The tube I have my yellow LED housed in broke away from it's mount. Presently waiting for glue to dry so I can set this up differently.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160703_074945.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160703_074945.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on July 05, 2016, 05:16:57 pm
wow.  I've never thought of attempting such surgery.  If a light fails I just shake the model a bit and hope for the best!  :P
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on July 06, 2016, 08:04:30 am
Surgery went well, and all is working now. I got the first engine attached to the straight pylons. Might have run into a problem when my CA glue set to fast when I was setting wires in the trench. If I putty it up and sand it as is, I'll end up exposing some wires. This could cause me some serious issues if the current bonded bits don't want to give it up easily. Pulled the saucer out, and planned initial LED placement, and wiring routing through the neck for the torp launcher board, speaker wire, and 3 other pairs of wires that'll need to go through there. Also set up my mounting point for the stand in the secondary hull. Still a bit rough, but I'll need to have the main rod set at an angle, so I'll eventually make it to ACE hardware and pick up the right size copper for it, and pull out the soldering torch to build a sturdy frame to house in the base and keep the sucker from moving.

Now when I find the time to do all this will be anyone's guess, but I'll keep trying to get little bits done here and there. Need to just set aside a weekend to mash through the bulk of what I have planned. Lots of soldering to be done.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160705_164820.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160705_164820.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on July 06, 2016, 01:31:53 pm
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster."

Nice Job on the surgery, JimmyPop!

I fear, as with all of us, we will be hard pressed to focus on modeling this summer! Find the time when you can!

Still, it is looking good and I am enjoying following you build!

Never Give Up! Never Surrender!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: trekker9211 on July 06, 2016, 10:41:26 pm
It doesn't even look like you had a setback. A tribute to your skills!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on July 17, 2016, 07:01:27 pm
Got a little more work done last two weekends. First coat of primer is drying now, and I already see some spots that need additional attention, but this part is almost done.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075417.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075417.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075435.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075435.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075452.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160717_075452.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on July 18, 2016, 11:11:08 am
This is gonna look AWESOME!  ;D ;D

I can't wait!!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on July 23, 2016, 10:37:01 am
Learning lesson: Resin bits for making a model accurate are WAYYYY easier than entire superstructure bits in putting a model together. The resin is finicky, doesn't like to hold primer or putty, and takes a lot more TLC to get going. But it sure does look good when you get it there!

So sorry for the long winded post, been taking care of the little bits here and there, putty sand repeat etc etc. About to the point of calling the port and starboard nacelles and pylons done. I had to be a bit creative in how to hide the wiring in the resin, since the first one didn't line up properly and attempting to fix it was causing worse problems. So, I ended up adding a bit of styrene, more putty, and more sanding to cover the trenches and the 3 wires that glued down to fast for me to place correctly. Didn't come out to bad, and you wouldn't notice if I didn't point it out. Also noticed that the rear side of the pylons didn't have the trenches that I would have expected, since the neck extension pylon for the 3rd nacelle had it. So I went ahead cut some into the resin, now it looks correct! Still have some paint clean up with bubbles from the rattle can...


Threw on a coat of white primer that I'm thinking will do good as a base coat being flat white. Next up before detail work will be mixing a pot of pearlescent blue clear to start the aztecking. Gotta dig the masks out of the closet after that.

Did run into my next issue however, as the nacelles are NOT aligned properly with the secondary hull. I'm going to have to build up the resin insert the pylons attach to to raise the rear portion by about 1/8th of an inch to make it align properly. Guessing this was from the added styrene bits to cover the wiring trenches.

Since the 2x nacelles are about done for that part, I have moved on to prepping the secondary hull above and beyond the bits done so far with the segment extension and arboretum. Drilling holes, hollowing out bits for light transmission around the shuttle bay, and sanding DLM clear bits to better defuse light. So far so good from minor light tests.

Next problem to address!  ::)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160718_193144.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160718_193144.jpg.html)

Completed assembly of nacelles + pylon (headache city!)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090740.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090740.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090802.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090802.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090821.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090821.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090830.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090830.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_092905.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_092905.jpg.html)

Fortuitous accident! When I glued the fiber in for the running lights on the k-will sensors, it made awesome beacon "mounts"
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090914.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_090914.jpg.html)

Prep begins on secondary hull (I remembered there are a few things from my last 537 refit build I wanted to make sure I covered here, mainly light blocking the blue/red better near the shuttle bay)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091206.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091206.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091258.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091258.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091310.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160723_091310.jpg.html)
 
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on July 24, 2016, 02:36:53 pm
Jimmypop,

This is looking good. Ah the infamous Nacelle droop! Proof positive yet again that these ships were made to be in outer space!  ;D

However, don't you love the happy accidents?! Luck sometimes favors the foolish!

Still, set backs and happy accidents aside, you're doing a bang up job!

Steady as she goes! Still can't wait to see this one lit!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on July 26, 2016, 05:32:48 pm
It's always amazing to watch as all the behind the scenes work like cutting wire channels gets covered up and just seems to disappear.  When it's all done and sitting there you can hardly imagine what it must take to get it to that point.  Unless, of course, you have tried to do it yourself.  Well done and looking good!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on July 27, 2016, 12:12:24 pm
Quick little preview of whats coming next, with a bit about tenacontrols (awesome!)

Arboretum windows (or start of it) I have 3 done so far, the middle ones, but the outside windows are going to need a bit of creativity:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160726_180250.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160726_180250.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160726_180548.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160726_180548.jpg.html)

And the tenacontrol RF boards... awesome!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/th_VID_20160723_114147.mp4) (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/VID_20160723_114147.mp4)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 07, 2016, 01:40:38 pm
Ok, so I got a bit more accomplished this weekend, probably at about the stopping point for this weekend, got a couple more LEDs to glue in place. Anywho, began working on the secondary hull, installing LEDs, matching things up for the arboretum, and starting on the deflector dish. No real huge accomplishments yet, but I can see the secondary hull going together shortly, and the aves epoxy putty coming out to filling the big holes at the bottom. Threw in some .60 styrene to hold the putty when that time comes. Other than that I have the power connection left to figure out, will require an angle to it, since I put it where the hull has a curve to have better stability between the heavy saucer and the heavy tail end with all the resin. Stay tuned, slowly but surely knocking out bits.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160731_064014.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160731_064014.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_135535.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_135535.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_140059.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_140059.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_140208.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160806_140208.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_123131.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_123131.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_123146.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_123146.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 07, 2016, 07:16:31 pm
Ok, so I kept going and got the deflector hammered out (not light blocked mostly). I'm using 0603 SMD LEDs for the thruster ports, enclosed in a bit of styrene tube, and capped with a thin bit of styrene. Was worried that it might impact the blue of the deflector, but it was a needless worry it seems.

One step closer to being able to close up the secondary hull!!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_181028.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_181028.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_181012.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_181012.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_180957.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_180957.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_180953.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160807_180953.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 08, 2016, 07:13:21 am
Jimmypop57, This is looking better and better!

Love your innovative use of a clear plastic cup for the arboretum windows! I will definitely steal that idea - with proper attribution!

Also, the deflector dish is looking very nice!

One day, when I grow up, I'm gonna be a modeler/artist like you! Maybe...

Awesome job, Dude!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 08, 2016, 08:37:02 am
Thanks MSgtUSAFRet! Feel free to use any and all things I come up with.

She is still ver rough around the edges, but starting to smooth out a bit. Hoping I can get more work done this weekend if I'm not to burnt from work. I really want to get the secondary hull together so I can start the fun part of dealing with the neck and move on to the saucer. Soon.... Neck is gonna be a beast tho. Have to do a lot of creative LED placement, wire up torps, and then sculpt some epoxy putty for the bow/aft launcher combo.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on August 11, 2016, 07:23:20 pm
The FO stubs are something I would not have thought of for that scale.  Sanding them down after painting is a royal beeatch.  What is your plan for that?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 12, 2016, 07:09:08 am
Hey scottminium! I actually sand them down before painting to be flush with the deflector dish housing, and use a tooth pick an liquid latex to mask them. A quick dab'll do ya!

1) Clip them down close (I use some nail clippers I got at a walgreens for $2)
2) Sand them flat
3) Use a tooth pick to dab some liquid masking
4) Paint

 - Repeat step 3 as required.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: NCC1966 on August 12, 2016, 11:48:41 am
It's getting really REALLY great!

 :)

"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster."

(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article10479001.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS69638726.jpg)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 13, 2016, 08:33:59 pm
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article10479001.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS69638726.jpg)

Yep! The Six Million Dollar Man himself! Although, like another great literary character said "It is not the years, it's the mileage!"  ;D

Jim, this is an awesome build and I am learning alot following it!

Keep going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 15, 2016, 09:50:37 am
Started working things out wiring wise over the weekend. Consolidating, and uncluttered the secondary hull. Ran into a wee bit of a snafu however with my 4 port connector. Seems that when the 2 halves meet, the metal casing grounds out and not only do I lose my power circuit, but it starts to short. I'm still working that one out. There is no connection that I can see where those two bits should be grounding out, and it has me terribly vexed. Anywho, we'll see what I can come up with on that later. few pics to show progress.

Now what I don't have here is a pic showing how awesome the arboretum windows came out, you'll just have to wait. But, I cleaned the plastic bits with rubbing alcohol and then liberally applied US version of Futura (Pledge something or other). I can see things 10 feet away with almost no distortion... AMAZING! That is all masked off to keep it clean presently.

Before / After
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160814_071524.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160814_071524.jpg.html)

Snazzy!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160814_073908.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160814_073908.jpg.html)

Figuring out which was which
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_083341.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_083341.jpg.html)

The Rat's nest to be...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_083139.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_083139.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 15, 2016, 10:05:03 am
Almost forgot, I got the top saucer forward spotlight in. I'll clean it up later so you wont even see it.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_090227.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_090227.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_090115.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160815_090115.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 16, 2016, 10:39:27 am
Looking excellent, Jim!

Did you move the bridge forward on the B/C deck to get the light to aim downward on the saucer?

The "rats nest to be" would leave me scratching my head clear through to my itty bitty brain! You, sir, are a master!

This is a fascinating build!

Keep going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 16, 2016, 05:49:29 pm
Thanks MSgtUSAFRet! Your comments keep me going sometimes (glad you found your own craving for lighting), now you know why I do this to myself LOL.

Hit a major milestone today, took a 4 day weekend and have been grinding the secondary hull out the last two days. Set a goal to seal it up before I called it for the day. I am pleased to say that it is now a competed sub assembly! I figured out my wiring issues, grabbed the soldering iron, and just put in about 8 hours today to finish up the secondary hull and close that up. Still a lot to do but... I'll just number out whats been done and post some pics + a vid.

Light Test!!!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/th_VID_20160816_133828.mp4) (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/VID_20160816_133828.mp4)

1) Light box for the red LED over the shuttle bay
2) ALL the wiring from the RF board (3 times over LOL)
3) ALL the secondary hull wiring (including handy connectors for the pylons/nacelles/deflector)
4) Finished the power connection
5) Ran wiring from the RF board to be strung through the neck/saucer
6) Sealed that puppy up!!!

Light box:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_082647.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_082647.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_082745.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_082745.jpg.html)

RF board and other wiring:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_105657.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_105657.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_124814.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_124814.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162430.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162430.jpg.html)

Remember that arboretum, and the windows... well they came out better than I thought. Unless you are at an angle, you don't even see them, they are that clear!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162341.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162341.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_135052.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_135052.jpg.html)
 (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162408.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162408.jpg.html)

A few lighting shots:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162307.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162307.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162420.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162420.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162445.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160816_162445.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 17, 2016, 07:06:14 am
Oh SNAP! Very Nice!

That mess of spaghetti is making your ship look AWESOME!

Maybe you should see if TenaControls will sponsor you, too!

Keep 'er going, Scotty! Keep 'er going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 23, 2016, 12:07:57 pm
Okay! That's enough!


I'm going through withdrawl now!

You. MUST. post. something!  ;D ;D ;D

Anything?


Just a little bit? :-\

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 23, 2016, 12:32:14 pm
Sorry Steve, didn't update with weekend work. ;D

Yeah, let me get a few pics tonight. Was going to wire up the saucer or begin to, but I ran out of LEDs, they are on their way now, but will be another week or so.

I have the secondary hull sealed up with aves epoxy putty instead of squadron (really beginning to love the stuff more and more). Attached the pylon hull piece, but haven't glued the pylons/nacelles in place, and also have the deflector housing installed. I'm hesitant to glue the nacelles on until I get the bottom half of the saucer in place so I can align them properly. Was prepping the LEDs to wire up for the neck and fore and aft torp launchers. I still need to map out the wiring for the torp board, and might need to reach out to Ralph about it if I can't figure out how to integrate the momentary switch from the RF board into the torp board. I might need to pop the deflector housing off and wire in an additional negative from the stand mounting rod specific for the torp board. Little stumped until I can figure that out, or ping Ralph for some assistance.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 23, 2016, 12:40:32 pm
Whew! Thanks, Jim! I can hold out for a bit longer now.

It was close, though!  ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 26, 2016, 06:52:04 am
Latest Update: LEDs just posted that they have made it to Shanghai. Going to be awhile before I can start on the saucer lighting in full swing  :o

I'm going to get the torp launcher LEDs wired up today or tomorrow, and the LEDs for the neck. Haven't decided yet if I want to try and make windows in the resin portion of the neck add-on for the 3rd nacelle yet, I just might because why not (and I can always fill them if they don't work out).

Also working out a temp "heavy" base so I can stand the thing up, all the heavy resin bits in the tail end of the beast are making it a bit unstable and I can't actually set it up without holding it until the saucer is connected as a counter balance.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on August 27, 2016, 06:54:24 am
That is a truly impressive and ambitious amount of lighting.  I am loving watching this come along.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 27, 2016, 01:27:39 pm
Latest Saturday morning update, won't be pics until everything dries (sry about that).

So I drilled out a set of 5 windows for the resin neck extension at 2mm to match the rest of the windows. Then expanded the internal channels for the LEDs (will use 1206 SMDs) with a 3mm drill bit. After that I took my dremel to it and opened up more space for wiring, and painted the insides white to help bounce it around. Once LEDs are installed, I will plug the windows with 2mm side fire fiber as there isn't much room to bounce light in there.

Got all my torp LEDs soldered up, and glued in, light blocked, and finally, mixed up some epoxy and filled in the cavities for the aft and saucer bits (DLMs resin part didn't need the epoxy treatment). Once the epoxy sets in a couple of hours, I'll begin assembling the neck, and hopefully get it attached tonight or tomorrow morning.

Once done I'll pull out the aves epoxy putty again and start filling in and evening things out to be uniform. It'll then be ready for the bottom half of the saucer so I can at least mount it and make things straight.

Did however realize I didn't set up the third nacelle except for the chiller grills. Seems I'm not completely done with the green squadron putty sand for days lol. I'll still have to wait for the bulk of the LEDs on a slow boat for the windows, bridge b/c decks, but I can get the navs done and installed in the mean time.

(Painting this thing is going to be tedious)  :P
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 27, 2016, 03:30:02 pm
Always seems like there is something else to do doesn't there, Jim?

Keep going, Buddy!

But pictures or it didn't happen! ;D

Never give up! Never surrender!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 28, 2016, 11:12:08 am
Ok, just a couple of pics. I got lazy yesterday and didn't get more work done until this morning. Lets start with insanity level:

Here we have from left to right 1) 1206 SMD 2) 0603 SMD 3) The dreaded 0402 SMD
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_085717.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_085717.jpg.html)

The resin neck for Z windows
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_094720.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_094720.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095010.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095010.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_094915.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_094915.jpg.html)

Some torp stuffs: My vid is taking days to get to photobucket which seems to be on a massive add campaign recently to get you to spend $$, bothersome
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095031.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095031.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095050.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_095050.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Quarky on August 28, 2016, 01:49:08 pm
Literally awesome build...I am in awe!

Great work!

P.S. I switched to Flikr from photo bucket recently for exactly that reason...so far so good!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 29, 2016, 04:51:38 pm
Little more work done so far.

This madness continues... 50% done LOL
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_174510.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160828_174510.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_154147.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_154147.jpg.html)

Started on the neck, and came up with an idea to make it work. Just need to figure out the wiring placement, as there will be 10 wires going through here. Even at the size of wire I'm using that will still take up a decent amount of space and need to be routed so as not to impact the windows (or be seen even remotely).

So, I took out some of the thin .010 sheet styrene, and cut it to shape. Then using the mounting pegs, stuck it in place between the two neck halves. Now it is lined up and centered for strategically placed LEDs to bounce light off of directly in the middle. Now this does cause some headache with wire routing, and why I need to set up a 5 connection system for the 3rd nacelle, and some creative gluing/paint to cover the wires but I can get this down. At this point it's all about economy, and how much light can I squeeze out of as few LEDs as possible to reduce wiring.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153755.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153755.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153815.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153815.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153838.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153838.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153900.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_153900.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_154018.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160829_154018.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Quarky on August 29, 2016, 05:00:50 pm
Great ingenious solution there.This is gonna turn out amazing!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on August 29, 2016, 05:19:07 pm
Thanks Quarky!

This has been a long time coming, starts and stops, work shenanigans and what not, but I'm getting closer to the end game, and that makes clearing space for a new project the main drive! I'm hopefully optimistic that this will come out decent.

Still need custom decals for registry and numbers... USS Charon NX-7734  ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 02, 2016, 11:02:59 am
Taking advantage of a 4 day weekend, I finished sanding the third nacelle. Needs some fine clean up around some of the hard edges etc etc. Did some more work on the neck piece, and roughed out a sketch of how I'm going to route the wiring. All told there are 11 wires that need to go through there. Will be interesting to see how it goes together, but I realize I'll probably need an additional 2 LEDs for the neck. But I was able to clear out the majority of the resin inside the neck extension to be able to use a single LED to light those extra windows. For that I had to dig pretty deep into the resin, and figure out how to get the nacelle wiring around in there. Made a 5 prong connection, so I can build the nacelle separately and still be able to attach it after the neck is completed, removing the need to get inside there for wiring issue once it's sealed up.

Might not look like much, but it means everything for ease of assembly.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095254.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095254.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095324.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095324.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095332.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095332.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095412.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160902_095412.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on September 03, 2016, 01:01:42 pm
The electrical connectors look great.  Will you be using all 5 leads?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 03, 2016, 01:40:14 pm
@starsiegeplayer All 5 connections will be used on the nacelle. 2 for the strobe to go directly to the nav board, 1 positive IN, 1 negative OUT to the RF board for the nav board (powers spots and the steady on beacons from the supplementary sensor array), and last 1 negative OUT to the RF board for the engines/RCS thrusters. I'm thinking about making another similar connector for the dorsal spine of the secondary hull so I can just wire the neck in and terminate various wiring there to mains 1 (+) and 4 (-) for the various RF board channels + 2 for speaker, 4 photon wiers, and the 2 strobe wires. Takes me a day or so, and a few wiring diagrams written up to wrap my head around, but I'm almost there, if a week late  ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 03, 2016, 06:28:23 pm
Jim, that looks like a very elegant solution for the third nacelle! Well done!

I know you have focused on the support pylon, but are you going to treat the third nacelle like the other two? As far as lighting?

Still following with bated breath! (Sorry. Had onions for dinner!  ;D )

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 03, 2016, 06:49:42 pm
@MSgtUSAFRet Yuppa! It'll have all the bells and whistles as the other 2. Was talking to Ralph from Tenacontrols about a constant low voltage current to the torps so they remain dimly lit earlier. I might need to order some more parts if I want to accomplish that one. So still slow and steady but I did get some more bits taken care of, more resin bits drilled out. Prepped the 3rd k-will sensor for it's nav beacon, and got the impulse crystal ready for light. Also added the 2 SMDs for the 2 rear blinking nav beacons for the saucer on the resin replacement for the split impulse deck.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Lestatdelc on September 04, 2016, 10:01:22 pm
One of the design aspects of the "refit" style warp engine nacelles which looks great visually when they are in pairs is that their is a lighting, design and "conceptual" difference between the inboard, and outboard sides. The inboard grills are the "light up" war could, the outside ones are dark.

So in all the "refit" designs which have either a single nacelle, of an odd number "center" nacelle, should there still be a difference in the look and (theorized function) of the port and starboard sides?

Something both conceptional and aesthetically seems "wrong" to have an odd number nacelle be "off-balance" vis-
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 05, 2016, 08:10:05 am
Lestatdelc, I dunno. This topic came up in another thread and I think the coolness factor must have some play in this type of starship design.

When the TNG Dreadnaught made it's dramatic entrance in "All Good Things", my first thought was "WOW!" and "AWESOME!"

I kinda think the nacelles act in pairs to form the warp bubble or warp wave on which the ship is pushed into and beyond light speeds. The presence of more nacelles (typically in pairs) would create a more stable warp bubble and, therefore, being more efficient, induce greater speeds. But the presence of pairs, or the absence of a twin, would not imply an inefficient warp bubble/field. The TNG Dreadnought Main Energy Flux Chillers encircle the Nacelle and all sides, with the exception of the red bussard collectors, glow when inducing the warp field. So, I think, despite theoretical physics (theoretical because no one currently knows how to induce a warp field) the coolness factor of having three nacelles out weighs hypothetical warp and quantum mechanics.  ;)  ;D 

Maybe, and this is entirely up to Jim, both sides of the third nacelle should glow as it may "push" against the other two nacelles to create a larger, more efficient warp field through which the ship is hurled. THAT would be cool looking!!

Jimmypop57 - I can't wait so see this Beastie lighted and contentedly blinking away! Steady as she goes!

Thanks, Lestatdelc, for allowing me have a good natured discussion and

Thanks, Jimmypop57 for allowing me to highjack your thread for a minute!

To the Journey!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 05, 2016, 10:34:05 am
Meh, this is the fun of modeling!

I think the third nacelle increases the stability of the warp field. If I remember my Hanes manual of the enterprise right, having the pair of nacelles allows the ship to maneuver while in warp by constricting and expanding the port/starboard fields generated. In this manner the ship can maneuver while in warp turning right or left, up or down, but decreasing the ships overall speed for the duration of the maneuver. With the addition of the 3rd nacelle, it allows the ship to maneuver. maintaining the integrity of the warp field without drastically reducing the ships speed.

In contrast the single nacelle ships like the scouts and light destroyers are single vector ships. They can warp space just as fast as the bigger cruisers and heavy cruisers with pairs of nacelles, but they can't maneuver while in warp. Whichever way they go, is the way they are headed until they drop out of warp, realign, and head back into warp. Cheaper for Star Fleet I'm sure, but drastically reduces response time if something comes up elsewhere.  ;D  (That is my opinion anyway LOL)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 05, 2016, 01:10:09 pm
So for this mornings update, more prep work for the neck (this part is turning out to be one of the most time consuming and noggin knocking parts LOL).

First I cut all the wiring from the secondary hull that needs to be routed through the neck to the saucer. This had me popping off the deflector dish housing, which I had to do anyway as the main (+) line in needed to be re-soldered anyway. After that I added in a rail to connect all the next bit of wiring to, so that is ready to go, just have to finish up the neck to where I feel confident enough to reattach the deflector housing.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115731.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115731.jpg.html)

Next up was getting the third nacelle wired up so I can move that along and be confident it wont cause issues when I assemble and attach the neck. I hat to turn spaghetti into something resembling ordered chaos here. Since I can't build it on the fly in one half of the nacelle, I had to wire the entire group of LEDs, and their corresponding connections to the 5 pin connector I put together. But it didn't come out to bad in the end. Once I got that wired up, game plan in place, I fixed up the neck extension to connect the nacelle, and proud to say all is well there! Still need to seal it up, but it's about 92% done.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_112645.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_112645.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_112701.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_112701.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115622.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115622.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115410.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160905_115410.jpg.html)

And a glimpse of whats next up... (finally got the vid uploaded...)
http://vid1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/VID_20160828_094654.mp4
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 05, 2016, 02:19:06 pm
Jimmypop, this is wonderfully beautiful craziness you have here.  Your wiring is quite the professional piece of work!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 05, 2016, 03:58:41 pm
Thanks scottminium! While things are taking their sweet time to dry.... I was thinking about a name. I know that USS Charon is rather dark, if fitting, for a dreadnought class ship. Then I thought USS Thor might be pretty bad @$$ too...

So I got bored...
Patch 1:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch.png.html)

Patch 2:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch_2.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch_2.png.html)

Patch 3:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch_3.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Thor%20Patch_3.png.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 05, 2016, 06:03:45 pm
2! Definitely, 2!

Ya know...if you're taking a vote.  ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 05, 2016, 06:24:22 pm
Made one more, added it to the post. Had to add the saucer mounted torp launchers!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 06, 2016, 07:02:05 am
Yep - Looks better. 3 Then!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Quarky on September 06, 2016, 03:07:32 pm
I vote 3 also!

And really nice wiring there... might have to try some of your techniques...

cheers
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 06, 2016, 05:13:18 pm
I like Project Thor 'we bring the hammer', but perhaps not as a ship name.  Seems like Royal Navy title might be more to your liking.  Something like Ambush or Vengeance, or even Nelson.  Or perhaps Star Wars Imperial Navy like 'Dominator' or 'Vindicator' or 'Annihilator.'  Ok, the last one might be a bit much, but the Dreadnought is a warship first, no hiding that. 

So maybe Charon is a bit dark, but I love the idea of a starship being the thing to 'take you to the other side.'
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 06, 2016, 09:41:34 pm
Or you could continue the Norse Mythology theme and try "Valhalla" on for size. "USS Valkyrie", or "Asgard". If you wanted a little darker side, maybe even "Ragnarok".

Still the patch design is cool! But it is your ship and your choice!

Always have fun, Captain!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 07, 2016, 07:46:21 pm
Indeed, as Steve says, your work, your title.  Or as Rush says, "Your own story, Your own glory!"
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 08, 2016, 07:26:22 am
Yuppa! Nothing has been sent to the printer yet. Still figuring out what we'll call the beast. This was more for ideas to use for the base graphic. As is work takes precedence, and everything is sitting waiting for more attention on Saturday (maybe Friday night). Found out there is a region 10 IPMS show/contest on Oct 8th close enough for me to attend. Deciding if I hold off on the Dread (since it wont be ready by then  ???) and if I can mash something or 2 together to take to that one. Decisions decisions!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 18, 2016, 08:35:41 am
And work continues. I have the neck assembled now, if not fully glued together. Looks like the dry fit tests have the 3rd nacelle pointing down to the front lol. More stuff to fix. I'm going to be attaching it today all goes well, and start more work on the lower saucer. Painting this is going to be a beast.

Note: When I was dry fitting neck/3rd nacelle/saucer, I noticed how it didn't settle right as well as how close to the saucer the sensor pod gets to it. Might need to extend the neck a bit. Other than that, game on!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_222914.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_222914.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_230404.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_230404.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232205.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232205.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232317.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232317.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232326.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232326.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232537.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232537.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232900.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160917_232900.jpg.html)

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(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160910_115836.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160910_115836.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 18, 2016, 10:01:24 pm
Jim,

I can only hope to one day be the artist with wires and lights the you are! This looks incredibly complex and cool!

I love your planning pad in the background and cannot wait to see this thing whole and glowing!

Excellent work, Sir!

Steady as she goes, Helmsman!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 19, 2016, 08:50:22 am
Thanks Steve! You have been a constant pick-me-up for this one. This has been and is my most ambitious work... and true to form, yesterday was a hot day. Needed to winterize the car and ended up working on that instead (maybe there is a fear of actually getting this neck done?).

So far this neck bit is the most difficult part of the build to date. Still some bits left, so I might just get corrected on that statement. I really want to get the main bit attached so I can dry fit the saucer and get the nacelles aligned and permanently tacked down. Unfortunately, most of it so far hasn't played nice and I'm still getting things figured out. Like the thick styrene chunk I put in on the top of the secondary hull... The wires from the neck don't really care for it much, so I had to cut significant portions out reducing structural integrity, then make room for wire bundles and then shore it back up again. Then align the 3rd nacelle and pylon so I can start the fun part of building/covering/filling all the bits with aves epoxy putty. I might need to build some special styrene "tool" to get everything straight and looking as good as I can.

Then to top it off, the back 2 nacelles lean to the back and up, and the 3rd nacelle is pointing to the front and down ROFL. Rather hilarious when I was trying to juggle everything to get an idea of where it sits. First time working with this much resin, and something I'm sure other modelers have discovered ages ago, resin is kind of a beast to work with in large chunks... never seems to do what you want it to and has to be taught who is boss forcefully and often  8)

Don't mind my complaining tho, regardless it's going to be spectacular once it's done (maybe not show worthy), but a damn fine addition to the fleet!

Snap... I still need to figure a name/registry and get some custom decals made for it. BAH!  ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 20, 2016, 10:35:40 am
Ok, got the main portion of the neck and the wiring done last night. Just bit the bullet and did it (and everything works)! There are massive areas to work some aves into to connect the 3rd nacelle pylon, and the aft torp launchers, and clean up the connection points. I dry fit some bits, and was pleasantly surprised ad the size of this beast. The 537 refit is big, but this one will be a bit larger due to the extended secondary hull, although it will be about the same length as the nacelles are set forward more by about an inch and a half (which is covered by the secondary hull extension). Next up, aves epoxy putty, fill and sand + primer. Then aligning all the nacelles to line up with the saucer, but I'm pleased with the result so far.

Remember that the nacelles and pylons aren't yet fixed in place. They have a lot of balance, glue, and finesse to get them right. Notice that the 3rd nacelle points forward and down. The gap between the sensor pod and the saucer is about half an inch when it's aligned up, but juggling all that is a pain presently, and the 3rd nacelle might need more tweaks moving forward to get it right.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193952.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193952.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_194025.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_194025.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193901.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193901.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193841.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193841.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193851.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160919_193851.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 20, 2016, 12:15:10 pm
She's Glorious! Woohoo!

"Makes Freddy sooo happy!"

Well done!!

Keep 'er going!!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 20, 2016, 07:31:21 pm
This is an awe-inspiring piece of work.  The lighting, the overall design.  Just, wow.  This ship is totally bada$$.  I never want to attempt this scale of wiring however.  Yikes!

BTW, I still vote for Charon, "We take you to the other side."  Great tag line.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 20, 2016, 08:33:16 pm
Thanks scottminium! Charon is still a leading contender.

Writing out a wiring diagram for the bottom saucer tonight. Really need to be able to at least dry fit it to get the 2 nacelles in the back straightened out. From there I can permanently glue the 3rd nacelle pylon and aft torp launchers in place and start the aves putty process. Digging up my notes I did on the refit for RCS thrusters. I am thinking that I want to get the neck/pylons aligned and start the aztec'ing for the secondary hull/nacelles, and again with the saucer before I attach them permanently. Otherwise this could get a bit to nutty if it's all built first. I'll need to figure out a good mix for the pearl powders I have and do a couple test runs on a test model. Start with a base of flat white, then pearl white, mask the crap out of everything and then a coat of pearl blue. She will only be a two-tone aztec. Going to go all out with this one!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 21, 2016, 07:22:52 am
Hey, Jim!

I'm gonna have to check out the Pearl Powder you mentioned. I have a 1/537 Refit in the stash and want to do a good paint job on it!

Yeah, I'm thinking you want to finalize your paint and aztecing on the secondary hull before you mount the third nacelle. Then you can get your hands in there for the delicate work without having to worry about bumping something off!

This build is shaping up nicely and, while I am envious of your skills, ingenuity and perserverance, I agree with Scott that may never attempt wiring or lighting on this scale; while, at least not for a whlle!  ::) ;D

Keep going, Jimmypop57, this will be awesome when you are done!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 21, 2016, 07:34:33 am

This build is shaping up nicely and, while I am envious of your skills, ingenuity and perserverance, I agree with Scott that may never attempt wiring or lighting on this scale; while, at least not for a whlle!  ::) ;D

Keep going, Jimmypop57, this will be awesome when you are done!

Steve

Thanks again man, I'll keep chipping away at it bit by bit. And as for lighting,start small, then start packing more in... give it time ;D Been lighting models for about 6 years now, and the longer you do it the more you feel you can get away with! There is a dark side to this though... sometimes you can over reach to squeeze just one more LED in, one more set of this or that. It can overcomplicate things to be sure, but if you pull it off? B-E-A-Utiful!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 25, 2016, 01:26:24 pm
This weekends madness, all neck all the time! (And maybe a bit of nacelle for flavor) Still need to sand it down and smooth it out to match, but most of the bulk work for the neck is done. Next up is light blocking and another coat of primer.

Rear nacelles attached:

Before
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_213633.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_213633.jpg.html)

After
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_213643.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_213643.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_215708.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160923_215708.jpg.html)

Neck reconstruction...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/image-20160924_194521.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/image-20160924_194521.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/download_20160925_121822.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/download_20160925_121822.jpg.html)

Test shot
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/image-20160924_194903.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/image-20160924_194903.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 25, 2016, 02:38:14 pm
Loving this build, even if the number of wires is equal parts awe inspiring and frightening!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 25, 2016, 07:21:27 pm
Wow! I mean...REALLY...WOW!

I'm with Scottminium -  equal parts awe inspiring and frightening! I know you said start out small and build up from there, but that, Sir, is A LOT of work! Very well done!

If I'm this excited to see your build up and in lights, You have GOT to be chewing the bit in half; not just chomping at it!

Keep going, Jim!

This is Awesome!!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 26, 2016, 10:09:29 am
Thanks guys!

I'm chipping away at it bit by bit. It's nice to see it come together and start looking the part for sure. I'll be tearing my hair out in the next week or so guaranteed as I'm going to start the aztec'ing. I am NOT looking forward to all the masking. Since I'm using masks for a 537 refit, there will also be places I'll need to modify significantly to fit right, as well as save the outside of the nacelle masks for the third one LOL. Also, since they are Aztec dummy (these aren't the customary ones I have seen using the black masks, but a yellow masking that I pray is a low tack mask) I'll need to take a bit of scrap and see if it pulls up the pearl I'll be spraying over the base coat. If it isn't low tack, I'll have to work in sections witch will increase completion time, but I think it'll be worth it. Also need to decide on what my secondary hull color will be. I was going to go with blue initially like I did on my refit build, but I think I'll switch this one up and do shades of green instead. Modelmasters has a nice chromate green that I'll use as the base, and I'll lighten or darken that accordingly if used (again I'll need to run some test shots on a scrap model before I decide). I don't want to give a non-standard model a standard paint scheme LOL.

If you go off the deep end, might as well go all the way!   :o
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 30, 2016, 07:39:30 am
Little bit more done last night. Finished the putty work on the neck. Need to sand it smooth, then pull out the airbrush and commence light blocking application before hitting it with a coat or white primer. I'll probably get all the rest that needs done in the mean time like cutting fibers flush and sanding them down, masking them etc etc. Did notice I missed a gap on the starboard nacelle where it connects to the pylon, so that'll need to be addressed. Deflector housing is attached (again!) and I need to take the clear DLM bit and re-mask the little parts before glueing that in so I can hit it with the white primer at the same time. All in all for having to build 1/3rd of the neck using putty, I'm not disappointed in the look of it! More to come this weekend (but I have a metal concert to catch Saturday night which will eat into my usual model time for a Sunday morning update)  ;D

need some better light, but neck is completely connected to all the things now:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_220409.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_220409.jpg.html)(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_220439.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_220439.jpg.html)

Quick light test to see how bad the leaks are.. pretty gnarly around the seams huzzah!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_221053.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_221053.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_221701.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20160929_221701.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 03, 2016, 07:23:53 am
Not to much done this weekend. Went to a metal concert, and it was awesome sauce. Anywho, whilst my ears where ringing yesterday I did some light blocking, and slapped on a coat of white paint. Should have read the bottle closer tho, as I picked the Tamiya white that is a gloss... So, I'll be going over that again soon as there are some minor light leaks left around the neck, some minor seam issues on the bottom of the hull and around the hanger bay observation deck, as well as a couple of leaks from the kwill sensor pods on the nacelles that need addressed. I have also masked/light blocked/painted the deflector dish, so that will be going on here shortly as well.

But hey, least it's all one color now right?!!!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/download_20161003_061756.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/download_20161003_061756.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 03, 2016, 08:03:29 am
Jim, this is looking AWESOME! I love that moment when you paint it all one color and you see the results of all that puttying, sanding and shaping! It's sooooo coool!

Sorry about the ringing ears! Which band did you see? Hear? Experience?  ;D

One step closer to the finish line!

Keep her going, Engineer!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 03, 2016, 12:45:33 pm
@ Steve, caught a heavy metal show at a venue literally 5 min form my apartment, how could I not?!! Headliner was MegaDeth, but I went for Amon Amarth (Swedish metal band out of Stockholm). It was very satisfying.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 04, 2016, 07:21:18 am
MegaDeath I've heard of...the other...not so much!  ;D

I haven't heard them (Thanks to the AF my hearing isn't what it used to be!) but I have heard OF them!

Hang in there! THE RINGING SHOULD STOP SOON! LOL!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Firebiro on October 04, 2016, 08:42:39 am
Nice one Jimmy, I've been watching your progress on this and am blown away!

You get Extra Kudos for Amon Amarth too :P
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 04, 2016, 11:51:37 am
Thanks guys! Still chipping away.

Getting some smaller stuff done here and there (mostly a day each weekend) but I'm setting up additional phaser emitters on the saucer, as well as a few other bits. I will probably get the seam lines on secondary hull taken care of, mostly just smoothing out a few areas that the paint highlighted before more resin bits and masking and application of my first pearl coat! That should be interesting LOL. I might need to go to the hobby shop for some more styrene bits and possibly a new nozzle for my airbrush. My old one might be biting the dust but I'll see if I have anything small enough to clean it out.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 08, 2016, 03:54:00 pm
Well I was hoping to get to lay down a layer of clear pearl white today. But after hitting the beast with a base coat I noticed some issues to address, as well as some sanding for the secondary hull under the shuttle bay where I got some paint drip. Anywho, I have some light leaks and a bit of filler to take care of today so once that dries I'll hit it again with a base coat, and maybe get to the first pearl coat tomorrow. Really wanted to start applying masks tomorrow and the second pearl coat, but progress is progress...  8)

Filler needed!!!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144503.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144503.jpg.html)

Light leaks...  :o
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144516.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144516.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144453.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144453.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144533.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161008_144533.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: karve on October 09, 2016, 05:19:16 am
Looks awesome Jimmy! Man I love how you think outside the box with these guys!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 09, 2016, 08:56:31 am
Thanks Karve! Means a lot... been working on getting this beast into shape since April. It'll end up being an 8-10 month journey of weekends for sure  ;D

Got my light leaks nailed down and used some canopy glue to fill in the nacelle seam last night. Looks like I missed a super small light leak on the port side under the nacelle pylon with the secondary hull, some more along the seam for the secondary hull, as well as some barely noticeable ones on the third nacelle pylon as well. Also looks like I missed some light blocking on the aft torp launcher LED, if the main lights are on, you can see a slight bit of white light through the starboard torp tube, Not much I can do about that one, so it'll have to stay. The rest I can knock out this morning, then hit it with a base coat again. Looks like airbrushing the first pearl coat will have to wait until later today, as I like to give the base rattle can coat at least 8 hours before screwing with it more   8)

I tried some new masking fluid out for some of it and I'm about 75/25 where it's concerned. It's called Bob Dively Liquid Masking film (https://www.amazon.com/DIVELY-3000-Liquid-Masking-DIVR3000/dp/B000X4MV4Q). It's super easy to use, unlike the liquid latex I have used previously. It's much easier on the paint, and is water soluble, so I can use my paint brushes to get into some really tight corners. It does however look like it fogged up the Arboretum windows a bit, but I'm hoping to go over those after the fact with some more futura acrylic and buff it out.

Anywho, I tried to mask off the deflector dish so I could paint the raised detail white, and came up with limited success. Looks like there is gonna be no easy way to do it but by shaky hand LOL
An ominous prospect for sure. So stay tuned I'll get a pic up later with the first assembly in pearl later today... that is gonna get done!

(Might start on the LED wiring for the saucer while I'm at it for lack of other things to do with it while paint dries...)
 
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 09, 2016, 07:25:29 pm
Ok,  so still no pearl coat on, but there are a few hours left in the day yet!

Before I go on, let us bow our heads to those kits that gladly sacrifice some parts for our testing purposes.  ;D

Mixed up a pearl coat. no fancy measuring here, just two "blade" fulls of pearl powder with my squadron putty tool into a spare paint jar filled with futura (pledge) floor wax by eyeball. Thoughts are greatly appreciated on the next few photos, I'm leaning towards the flat white...

The mix...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181929_1.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181929_1.jpg.html)

Bare plastic... (not really an option here but still checked it out anyway)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181209.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181209.jpg.html)

Gloss white: Option 1
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181239.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181239.jpg.html)

Flat white: Option 2 (so far liking this one more)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181257.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181257.jpg.html)

Without reflecting light...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181308.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161009_181308.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 10, 2016, 06:36:44 pm
I feel your pain about all the light leaks, Jim. :/

I'm sure you'll have them fixed in short order! Something about Bristol fashion comes to mind!!

But I really am enjoying seeing this come together!

Steady as she goes, Jim!

Steve


Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 11, 2016, 07:25:21 am
Well, again I thought I was ready for some pearl coat action! And again I was caught up in cleaning stuff up. I pulled the masking off of the nacelles, deflector, and I'll probably pull the masking from the lights around said nacelles before re-masking for the pearl coat. Glad I did this as I had a lot of paint build up on the masking that have been there from the beginning and need to clean it up some before I start the madness for my own piece of mind.

Also forgot to add the detail bits for the right/left of the shuttle bay, so those need added, masked and painted before I begin. But I thought I'd give you a beauty shot that gave me a SUPER cheesy grin!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161010_222602.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161010_222602.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 11, 2016, 07:32:13 am
DUDE! This is gonna be SOOOOOOO COOOOOL!!

You're not the only one grinning! I imagine you look like the emoticon  ;D !

You're doing fabulous work here, Jim! I'm kinda loving the starship graveyard you have in front of the Dreadnaught. Makes it look like it's already done some work!  ::)   ;)

Keep moving forward, Buddy!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 11, 2016, 07:39:15 am
Yeah that was the Enterprise Incident kit. First one I ever lit, and it got me started... Grain of wheat bulbs blew out for half of it and it didn't make the move to Colorado in good shape. I am planning on using that with the TMP ship set to set up a mini ST: II diorama. Already have the bulk of the work done on the reliant. But that is a build for another day, but here is a teaser!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/2500%20Reliant%20USB%20Hub/IMG_20151028_190801.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/2500%20Reliant%20USB%20Hub/IMG_20151028_190801.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/2500%20Reliant%20USB%20Hub/IMG_20151027_050630.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/2500%20Reliant%20USB%20Hub/IMG_20151027_050630.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 17, 2016, 07:40:54 am
Brief interlude for Halloween costume props. I'll get back to this shortly. Here is what has distracted me for a little bit: http://scifimodelaction.com/sfmaforum/index.php?topic=6418.msg83179#msg83179

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 17, 2016, 02:58:56 pm
That looks cool, Jim!

Breif 14 day interlude "granted" due to coolness factor. But you are hereby given notice  you must be back on your build NLT the afternoon of 15th day!  ;D

Enjoy!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 26, 2016, 07:17:51 am
Alrighty! About done with the phaser mod (need to find a smaller speaker before I can seal it up, one I planned to use doesn't like the size of the circuit boards). I'll be jumping back in on the Dread this weekend.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 27, 2016, 07:27:23 am
Hey Jim, did you post your phaser mod someplace?! I must have missed it.  :-\

Glad to see the "Dread" isn't set aside, I'm looking forward seeing it all done and pretty!

Engage!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on October 27, 2016, 08:35:39 am
I've put to much work into the dread to shelve it at this point ROFL. This weekends update will be pretty boring. Just going to start masking aztec panels. As for the phaser, one of my speakers no longer fits. Waiting on a shipment of small speakers from Amazon to replace the one. Then it'll be done after some putty work and a fresh base coat/mat clear. This will work out tho, as it's a pack of 4 speakers, and I'll use the rest to set up a "stereo" type sound for the 4x 2x2 photon launchers in the base (whatever that'll end up being) so that it's not firing everything with a single speaker. That would be silly ROFL
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 04, 2016, 07:34:36 am
Status update, Admiral?!

Star Fleet Command wants to know when it's newest Dreadnaught will be online?!

Hope things are going well!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 04, 2016, 01:17:00 pm
Well, we hit a couple of snags with our raw materials (need to grab a couple more cans of tamiya white primer), but basically work went nutty on me recently. So just been removing masking, cleaning up, and re-masking again, and avoiding the saucer. Plan on hitting the hobby shop tomorrow. Photobucket appears to be down, but I am in the middle of clean up on the lighted engine grills, and the observation deck under the shuttle bay presently. Here are some google photo's links in the mean time (it's not much!) Did get the electrical done on the Phaser, but have haven't done the seam work or clean up on it to make it legit yet (https://goo.gl/photos/4NpoxkjbziN4GRkN6)

Observation deck:
https://goo.gl/photos/6z2XzXgpd8vW4s638
https://goo.gl/photos/S7m8cvNdS7pFe5qy5

And the unmasked arboretum (it'll need another coat of clear, the masking film fogged it up a bit).
https://goo.gl/photos/sCHo2fHFtFTzU4f26
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on November 05, 2016, 06:18:08 pm
This build is looking thoroughly stupendous!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 07, 2016, 10:36:12 am
@Scottminium Thanks! Very slow going lol.

Got some progress done, and a quick trip to the hobby store, I splurged on one of the Revel republic star destroyers they just re-popped. Still cleaning up the secondary hull and engines, can't seem to be satisfied, or I find grid lines that need covered etc. Also got started on saucer work, and put together the string of LEDs for the windows. Need to do more but I've had about enough soldering for the morning.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161106_105609.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161106_105609.jpg.html)

Window lighting:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161107_091947.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161107_091947.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161107_092005.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161107_092005.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 08, 2016, 07:38:59 am
Nice job on the saucer lighting, Jimmypop57! I see you re-used your window lighting solution. Excellent!

The light boxes on the Aft of the saucer - are those impulse engine lights or torpedo launchers? Are they going to be hooked up to your speaker and sound system?


Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 08, 2016, 12:27:14 pm
Those are actually saucer mounted bow top launchers giving her a much more aggressive profile if you see her bearing down at you. They will be hooked up the torp board + speaker. I'll be setting up one main speaker, as well as 3 smaller ones, 2 facing forward in the base, and one facing aft so you get a bit of stereo when the torps are fired, or at least that is the plan anyway.

I haven't set up the impulse engines yet, it's a 4 part resin bit that is very thin and fragile. I also need to pull 2 circuits from flickering LED candles to hook up the lights for the impulse deck. For this I'll do a similar build for these circuits the same as I did with the 350 KBOP, and use 4 LEDs 1 red and 1 orange for each side of the split impulse deck, and alternate them the red/orange, so that they don't flicker at the same rate, makes it much more realistic.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on November 10, 2016, 06:56:03 pm
Still loving this.  Not happy at the use of X-Wings for test painting.   :(

Batteries for light testing, wall power for consistent light!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 11, 2016, 08:25:54 am
Yeah the X-Wing was actually one I got in a lot purchase on ebay, I used some of it's bits on another build that is again so close to being done it irks me sideways, but I continue to have electrical issues with it (some day I'll just rip it open for the 5th time to fix it). So it was super convenient to use that instead of say a cadet series kit fresh out of the box.

As for power I generally do initial light tests with a slightly used 9v battery, just in case I have a point failure somewhere, but once it's tied into the rest of the lighting on the kit, it's full 9v 2amp power from the socket 6-8 hours. If it doesn't explode at that point it's good to go ROFL.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Firebiro on November 11, 2016, 09:31:38 am
Ah the good old burn in stage, always nerve wrecking!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 13, 2016, 11:28:16 am
Not much of an update for this weekend. Some more saucer work, and a lot of soldering. Got most of the LEDs and the flickers candle circuit boards for the impulse engines done. A bit more to do there as I keep breaking leads off of the 10 mm LEDs I was trying to set up for a few places to blanket light, I'll get it eventually without breaking them LOL. Working on the saucer also allows me to avoid more work on the secondary hull and the paint job that for some reason I just haven't been able to motivate for... Getting there.

Photobucket has been consistently failing me for some time now, specially for vids which is a pain in the butt. Either they'll get their act together or I'll be moving to something else. Still works great for photos tho, so I guess they got that going for them...

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161112_083439.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161112_083439.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161112_083350.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161112_083350.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161113_094343.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161113_094343.jpg.html)

Hopefully this comes through? If not... (here is a link to the vid on google: https://goo.gl/photos/JE2nKrQnXREW3NnD9)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/th_VID_20161113_094703.mp4) (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/VID_20161113_094703.mp4)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on November 13, 2016, 11:45:48 am
That's a lot of lights!  :o
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 13, 2016, 11:50:35 am
That's a lot of lights!  :o

91 LEDs and counting, but almost done me thinks, not to many more to throw in there (that is rough count, I might be missing some...)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on November 13, 2016, 05:18:05 pm
91 LEDs and counting, but almost done me thinks, not to many more to throw in there (that is rough count, I might be missing some...)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 14, 2016, 07:03:11 am
Still geekin out about this build, Jim!

91 lights?! Whoa!

Still, awesome wire management! Speaking of which, I noticed you placed a resistor on each light and then daisy chained them around the saucer. Any particular reason for that arrangement? Just learning...

Keep this going, Dude! This is gonna be awesome!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 14, 2016, 09:23:38 am
Hey Steve, glad you are still interested in this build (lord knows it's been a journey with more than a few miles left!).

The LEDS are set up that way so that each is getting individual power resisted at the LED. What I learned from my first lighting attempt was that I prefer LEDs in parallel rather than in series. If you have a series of LEDs and one pops, they all go out as the circuit is broken. Wiring these up the way I do, the positive and negative wires are strung between all the LEDs, but give an independent connection to power to avoid this scenario. This way if one burns out after I have sealed it up, the windows in that section will still be lit, if a bit less brightly, but since they are sharing a common power line, it wont cut any off if one blows. This came in real handy with my previous 537 refit build that lost a single LED on one of the back window inserts. Now it's still lit, but dim on the one side, while still being lit well enough to see all the windows in full light.

The impulse engines I have been super careful with as those flickering candle boards are finicky at best and like to give issues in mysterious ways... Designed for 3v, I have not only the board resisted, but the LEDs connected to it as well to keep the amperage requirements down which is probably overkill. I have so far been able to drive 3 LEDs from a single board @ 9v in this way. Might be able to squeeze more in, but I haven't tried it yet.

In addition after finding out that the yellow SMD LEDs I used for the deflector dish RCS thrusters were pulling less power than expected with the mini 470 Ohm resistors I was using to save space caused heat build up (they were 1/4 watt resistors, which is the important part here as they were forced to dissipate more energy in the only way resistors can), and switched out to the bulkier 470 Ohm resistors rated at 1/2 watt.  This removed my heat build up issue. Since my other standard yellow LEDs didn't have this problem, my guess is that the SMD LEDs were rated at a lower voltage/current. But they came in bulk from ebay and didn't have a spec sheet   ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 20, 2016, 11:07:22 am
More saucer work done this weekend. Still need to wire up the nav beacons and strobes, but all the rest of the lighting is done except for the impulse crystal. Light blocked the window inserts with hot glue and aluminum tape, and got the sensor done set up and ready to go. The spaghetti of wires gets thicker!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095539.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095539.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095531.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095531.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095625.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095625.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095703.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095703.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_100039.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_100039.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_100051.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_100051.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095816.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161120_095816.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 24, 2016, 08:20:03 am
Jimmy, your lighting skills are nothing short of Impressive! I am loving what you are doing with the saucer lighting and - that masking!!

Holy Moly, Batman! That is awesome! I wouldn't have thought of it! I would have build light boxes for the yellow and have spent more time than necessary to place them. Your solution is elegant and efficent! Well done!

Just a quick question - aren't you afraid of all those bare resistors sitting ontop of each other shorting out their circuits? Or am I missing something?

Still, this is gonna be fully awesome!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 24, 2016, 09:26:59 am
Hey Steve!

Yeah not to worried about the exposed resistors. There are only two places they could cause issues, one where the window lighting is and the tin tape used to light block them, and the other is for the 3x LEDs for the sensor dome and windows above them. However, to mitigate the first, and it's not really visible, the resistors for the window LEDs are actually covered in hot glue, so there is no chance of a crossed connection there. For number two, might be hard to see in the pic, there was one area in the sensor dome that needed shrink wrap due to how the LEDs had to be placed, but the rest are far apart and wont interfere with each other. Here is a better example of that:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161124_081431.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161124_081431.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on November 27, 2016, 09:16:30 am
hot glue?  Hadn't thought of that, I've used clear gorilla glue. 

I just noticed the strip styrene you have backing the saucer lights, great idea!  Are you going to leave the windows just drilled out or do you have designs on filling them somehow?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 27, 2016, 11:30:44 am
More saucer work, got all the LEDs done, and top of the saucer wired. Think I might be running into an issue with the nav lights that I might have to rewire. Pretty sure they wont fit correctly once the saucer is put together.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161127_101508.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161127_101508.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161127_102225.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161127_102225.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 27, 2016, 03:00:29 pm
Whoa! Nice, Jim!

What issues are you having with the Nav Lights? Placement or functionality?

Still every step, no matter how small, is a step closer toward the finish!

Keep 'er going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 27, 2016, 05:32:22 pm
It'll be a space issue. Since the LEDs are right on top of each other, the way I put the top ones in will hit the ones in the bottom and the saucer wont close. Trying to remember what I did for the 537 Refit, and I think I just pulled the resisters off the LEDs itself and put it between the wire and it gave me more room. But I just checked, and if I don't heat shrink them, they should just barely fit!! Looks like I'll be wiring up nav and torp boards next round and finally seeing what this sucker is going to ultimately look like!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 29, 2016, 07:46:19 am
Understood.

Sorry to pepper you with questions (it's how I learn!) but those resistors in the middle of the saucer look like you soldered them in series. Does this affect the amperage of all the lighting circuits associated with the resistors? To my thinking, it would significantly dim the LED output (granted, extending the life of the LEDs) of each circuit; unless that is what you had in mind?!

Aaaaaagggaah! I feel like a Picasso - I can see both points of view! Help me, Captain!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 29, 2016, 11:07:24 am
No worries, questions are good!

Those are actually in parallel, the (+) and (-) are connected to a single point before the resistors on each LED, so the power going in is unresisted for each LED. I just didn't wire them up separately in this case, but essentially each LED is being individually powered by the same supply. I got a bit lazy and didn't want to place each LED individually, so this way they made their own supporting "lattice" I pre-measured for the the bottom saucer sensor dome and window lighting respectively.

I try to avoid using LEDs in series as much as possible, and this build has none. To many points of failure in a set of LEDs wired in series where one problem will break the whole series. If they are wired in parallel and one pops, the rest will continue to be lit happily. My first lighted build used 2 sets of LEDs wired in series, and knowing nothing about resistance at the time, I tired to use the voltage of my power supply + # of LEDs vs amperage. Had a burn out on the deflector dish LED about a year later, and lost my window lighting on the secondary hull and nacelles (which then brought the amperage to high for the rest of the LEDs, and they promptly went too)  :o 

However, with a grain of salt, done right I have seen LEDs in series work really well, but for me once bitten, twice shy.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on December 02, 2016, 07:21:16 pm
Yeah, I think the most I've put in series is 2.  The voltage drop with a 9V source really wouldn't take more than that.  Now that I've seen your build I might just do no more series and just put all in parallel with individual resistors.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 04, 2016, 09:21:25 am
Alrighty! I knew getting into this build (with my work schedule) was going to be a long haul. 

So as I was setting up the saucer there was something bothering me when I was looking at the ship as a whole. Something was missing. Took me a bit to figure it out, looking at the saucer and secondary hull clued me in. I filled all the horrifying grid pattern across the entire ship mostly (still some of it left but I kept it for some texture and depth), but I re-scribed the big panels on the saucer. The secondary hull didn't have those and it looked off. So I spent the morning with masking tape, hobby knife, and scribing tool and put the big panel lines on the secondary hull based on the images I could find for this beast. Now they aren't perfect by any stretch, but they'll pass. Unfortunately this means I have even more clean up work to do on that portion of the build. Especially where I used the epoxy putty, the paint chipped away from the lines I put in on the bottom, so that'll all need to be cleaned up, if not stripped entirely and repainted.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161204_072634.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161204_072634.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on December 05, 2016, 07:34:14 am
Jim,

This is still an Awe Inspiring build! I hope this temp set back won't deter you too long! I am like the anxious in-law, outside the birthing suite, wringing my hands while waiting for this baby to be born!

I hope the clean up won't take to long or require too much effort.  :-\

This is a truly lovely and unique build!

Never give up! Never Surrender!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 05, 2016, 08:34:44 am
Hey Steve,

It'll just take some more elbow grease, and more sanding to straighten it out. I have some time off coming for the holidays, and this should give me the time to straighten that out over a couple days of putty sand repeat LOL. I went into this knowing it would take me a long time to finish. I get maybe 4-6 hours total a week into it with my schedule, but we'll get there. Having 2 weeks to play around with it should get me at least to final assembly, and maybe light a fire to mask stuff for azteccing  :o

I'll still need to go in and remask everything, I have the inside nacelle flux chiller grills painted now, with some clean up and light blocking around the edges to do and even more uneven edges to knock down on the secondary hull, but everywhere else minus a couple more light leaks around the fore/aft torp launchers should see this done. All in all, a solid weekend of no distractions should get to a point I can think about aztec again. And still need to order, or have someone print out some custom decals for me. Think I sent emails to HDX and Jeff at JTGraphics, but would have to dig to find them as it was months ago ROFL. (And fix the patch artwork to match, as I'm thinking that will be the base image).

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on December 09, 2016, 05:27:35 pm
" 'Tis a brave man who scribes bare plastic."  Nothing like scribing to teach everyone around you new words they don't want to repeat.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on December 10, 2016, 07:37:00 pm
" 'Tis a brave man who scribes bare plastic."  Nothing like scribing to teach everyone around you new words they don't want to repeat.
True that.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on December 12, 2016, 07:55:56 am
" 'Tis a brave man who scribes bare plastic."  Nothing like scribing to teach everyone around you new words they don't want to repeat.

Exactly, Scott!! It is amazing how creative one can become with swearing when scribing!  ::)

Jimmy, sounds like you have a plan! Excellent! Stick with it! This may well be your Masterwork!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 23, 2016, 08:24:05 pm
Work is done for the year now. Expect updates to start coming in shortly.  ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 24, 2016, 11:15:28 am
Holy crap I forgot how big these things are... I have decided that I want this done sooner rather than later, so we'll be skipping the aztec bit for this build (disappointing I know) but this will have it matching my 537 Enterprise A on the shelf. Got some bits on  ;D

Need to start working on the rats nest of wiring, setting up the nav and torp boards. I'm going to go with a flat white base and a chromate green accents/strong back. Still, there will be tons of clean up work and sealing it all up. I'm positive that I'll have light leaks to deal with as well as more seam work.

She is gonna be bigger than I thought...
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161223_100634.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161223_100634.jpg.html)

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Just under 2 feet long, was difficult holding a camera and the tape measure, but it's 22in long (same as the 537 refit)
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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 24, 2016, 10:41:37 pm
Running a burn test of lighting, and have already identified 2 issues. I have one SMD for the rear saucer windows on the starboard side that blew out in under 10 min, and another window LED on the port bow section that is bad, goes on and off. Either a bad LED, or the resistor is bad and overheating. So far so good on the rest tho. I'll let it run overnight and see whats still working in the morning lol.

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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on December 24, 2016, 10:49:11 pm
It looks great.  If you don't want to paint the aztec patterns, what about adapting the pendragon decals for that model? 
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 25, 2016, 08:21:35 am
It looks great.  If you don't want to paint the aztec patterns, what about adapting the pendragon decals for that model? 

Those are the ones from Starshipmodeler? I'd think about it for sure, but I don't have a way to print them. The strong back bits would be rough, as well as the 3rd nacelle pylon (one of the reasons I didn't go with the masking I have. I still need to get custom registry for this beast as well.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on December 25, 2016, 09:19:28 am
This is looking AWESOME!

I read your earlier post and thought you were saying you weren't going to work on this anymore this year! I was so disappointed!!! I also can't read!!

I was thinking of using some Pendragon decals myself so it's not a bad idea.

This is really starting to take shape and looking fabulous!!

Looking forward to the next update!

Keep 'er going!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 25, 2016, 01:21:43 pm
Navs are up! Had a bad start, read the board diagram backwards, had to redo a bunch of soldering, but all in good fun!

Happy holidays all!

Photobucket failed me again, here is a google link:

https://goo.gl/photos/VrTQEfjwqZecuBdX6
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on December 25, 2016, 04:27:45 pm
Those are the ones from Starshipmodeler? I'd think about it for sure, but I don't have a way to print them.

There's not a print shop around you like Kinkos?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 25, 2016, 10:22:03 pm
Slight setback! Wired up the torp board, and it looks like I need some help from Ralph over at Tenacontrols to get it fixed. So, despite my efforts, I'm ending the day without torps. This could halt progress pretty good until I get the issue addressed.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 27, 2016, 05:31:38 pm
Ok, first and foremost Ralph at Tenacontrols is amazing! He worked me through my board issue, and it was a total bonehead maneuver on my part from reading the wiring diagrams wrong months ago when I started setting up wires for this bad boy. Good news is, She now has some fangs to go with her teeth and all torps are firing! Bad news is I had to shunt power from the Nav board line, so they torps only work when the nav beacons are on. As a side effect bonus, if you hold the torp button on the remote down, the navs come on LOL.

Live and learn!  ;D
Just goes to show you that you can still get schooled and reminded that even the best plans can backfire, even after you have been doing this for years!

Here are the torps!

https://goo.gl/photos/6nhp6QQAg2AmWKdz6
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on December 27, 2016, 05:36:19 pm
This beast is still totally bada$$. 

Did you ever choose a final name for this ship?  I'm still rather fond of 'Charon: We take you to the other side"
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 27, 2016, 05:40:05 pm
Thanks scottminium! Yeah it's moving along now. It will be the USS Charon NX-4377, I haven't redone the badge for it yet, or gotten the decals, or a handful of other bits yet. Once I get closer to the finish I'll redo the badge and see if I can get it printed up on some medium (maybe just one big decal) for the base.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 28, 2016, 09:57:50 am
Alrighty!

Got the top of the saucer connected. Have a few new issues to debug now LOL. Looks like i didn't light block enough on the strobe for the bridge module, as well as something killed the sound for the torp launchers that was working just fine for the vid, not so much after I moved it so I'll need to be checking those wires. Probably something in the brass rod I used to mount it for building I hope. Currently running a burn test for the rest of the top saucer lights. Please forgive the mess on my counter, need to go through all the junk mail and toss it!  8)

In retrospect, probably a good thing I'm single at the moment, as my whole apartment has been dedicated as a model "workshop" area ROFL!  ;D

Also, in looking at these pics, I'm extremely glad I took the time and effort to extend the secondary hull. It just wouldn't look proportionate without that little bit of modding to get it right.

Again photobucket has failed me with vids, here is a google link: https://goo.gl/photos/2jcryLkTXGSejpDAA

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161228_084346.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20161228_084346.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on December 30, 2016, 08:33:28 am
Jimmypop57, this is going to be a jewel of a build! It already looks awesome and it isn't even done yet!

Is this a test fit, light burn-in?! From the pics, I gotta ask, did the Power Company call and ask why you needed the nuclear reactor to double it's output?! ;D J/K! But it is a LOT of lights!

I agree - Ralph at TenaControls is really making a reputation of solid workmanship and customer support! Glad he is there for us!

Keep going, Jim! This is, as I have said, gonna be an awesome build! The months of steady and careful work are starting to come together!

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on December 30, 2016, 05:38:01 pm
I may have missed it (or forgotten) but is your idea to remove all the raised and recessed panel lines and do that with paint? 

I've been reluctant to date to use lighting effects other than off/on, but the torps do look tres cool.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on December 30, 2016, 08:22:28 pm
@ Steve, yeah this is burn in period. Everything seems to be working (other than spotty light blocking on the bridge strobe). Soon to seal it up. Noticed another issue I'll need to address. The 5mm yellow LEDs for the saucer thrust ports are set just a fraction to far back, and the top of the saucer is hitting them by a fraction, like a millimeter at most.

@scottminium I got rid of the bulk to the horrid AMT grid pattern on the entire model. It was a LOT of putty, sand, repeat over and over. There is a "shadow" of them still there, but most of it fades out with paint, the rest gives it some depth. I did however rescribe the panel lines.   
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 09, 2017, 07:09:31 am
Ok, I ground down the offending thruster LEDs, got the saucer sealed up, added the impulse engines, and scoped all the light blocking I'm going to need. And sure enough, just like the AMT kit it's build on, the top/bottom rear thruster ports (port and starboard) don't match up. Something I noticed when i put the 537 Enterprise A together, a drag, but not too terrible. I need to putty, fill then "grind" the upper saucer lip off before I can move forward.

Out of town on business for a week, so more updates, not that CO weather is being cooperative for bulk rattle can work.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170108_113002.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170108_113002.jpg.html)

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Bonus: Enterprise A sighting!
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Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 09, 2017, 07:52:57 am
Jim, this is really starting to come together! Your hard work and perseverance are finally starting to pay off!

Love the "A" in the background!

Be safe on the business trip!

Looking to see this thing finished!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on January 22, 2017, 02:39:44 pm
Looking at this again I am amazed at the number of visible lights.  Wow is that a well-lit ship! 8)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 23, 2017, 06:56:39 am
Thanks Scott, I'm falling super behind with it, not sure where my energy went  :-\  Should have been done by now, but every time I start in on it, something distracts me, I come back an hour later and say to myself... "Do I really want to lose 8 hours right now?" Terrible mindset. I need to grind down the lip on the top of the saucer and redo the thruster ports for it, fill seams, light block, base coat, finish the detail paint and finally make the call to aztec or not. I think that is what is really holding me back, as I want this to be the best I can do, but I'm terrified of broking it once it's started. Maybe I'll take some extra days off from work, get a 6 pack of redbull and muscle through it.  ::)

(Mini bandi star destroyer is my go to for a "quick win" to get back into it)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 23, 2017, 07:06:54 am
Jimmy, I think this happens with nearly every project; especially one this complex. Don't give up though. I think you are really close to seeing this one leave dry dock and I will be there to throw confetti and drink champagne at her christening!

Just take it small bites like you eat a 1400lbs elephant - one bite at a time!

Hang in there, Buddy, and this will be worth the time and effort!

Still looks fabulous!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 27, 2017, 02:59:23 pm
All right, Jimmypop57!

I think I have been patient enough! I am really starting to experience withdrawl symptons here!

How goes the build? Please report...growing weak...eyes darkening....  ;D ;)

Looking forward to your next post, Bud!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 27, 2017, 03:01:23 pm
Hehe, yeah get ready because it's gonna be a hustle.

Been a busy week outside of models... Just put in an offer for a brand new condo, so I have about 45 days to finish everything before I need to start packing! Give me till Sunday? Gonna try to kill the light leaks, smooth it out, and get the base coat on this weekend.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 28, 2017, 04:44:55 pm
Got the top saucer lip matching with the rest of the lower saucer now. I'll sand down the putty in the cracks tomorrow morning, and after some masking I'm crossing my fingers I can slp on the base coat.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 29, 2017, 08:59:01 am
Small set back this morning as I was putting up the saucer seams. Looks like I cracked the front between the 2 forward mounted torp launchers. So, that is being re-glued and I'll get the rest of the saucer once that has set up enough.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170129_075539.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170129_075539.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on January 29, 2017, 10:32:26 am
Argh!  Keep the pressure on and eventually this beast will submit!

I'm sure the move is going to take more and more of your time until about a month after.   So much for discretionary time.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 30, 2017, 09:51:49 am
Hang in there, Jimmy! This mustang will be tamed and she is gonna be a BEAUT!

Glad to see you are back at her but sorry about the issues!

It's looking good!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 30, 2017, 12:36:02 pm
Minor setback (just takes time for glue because I didn't want to use CA glue for this bit). Besides I was able to help another modeler out with some arduino code. Learning about using an arduino as a power management system, while powering lots of LEDs form a separate power source using relays. Kinda stimulated the old wet noodle upstairs as to what I could accomplish with the little boards. Now getting mini relays... they aren't so mini ROFL.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: simi on January 30, 2017, 01:01:21 pm
You should try a mosfet, as relays are actual physical dealios.  Mosfets can be turned on/off via an arduino and most of the standard ones can control anything up to 50 volts.  Since they don't use physical connections, I think they will actually respond "faster" than a physical relay.  Plus, they are just a bit bigger than a 5mm led.

That's what I use when I'm running 9v power but controlling it though my arduino. 

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10213 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10213)

Cheers!

Simi
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on January 30, 2017, 01:31:53 pm
Snap, I had no idea! Looking at the heatsink on that that, I wonder what the heat output would be for something like that. I may have to investigate! (But not yet!)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 04, 2017, 09:39:41 am
Alrighty! So got up early this morning and finished off the putty on the saucer, got the fiber in for the thruster ports, added in all the rest of the bits minus the blue crystals for the nacelles. I also masked off all the little bits, and once that dries I'll have a couple more bits to take care of. I'll be mixing up some epoxy putty to cover the gap between the 3rd nacelle pylon and the split impulse deck. Then using canopy glue, I'll minimize the gaps on the saucer and neck, around the sensor dome, the impulse engines, and that should do it (except for the putty on the 3rd nacelle connection, that will come after the main ships secondary colors are put down). Anywho, not very impressive photos, but here is the work that was done.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082749.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082749.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082734.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082734.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082721.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082721.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 04, 2017, 04:18:21 pm
3rd Nacelle pylon is done, it'll need a quick sand after it dries. Still the impulse engines to clean up/light block and the sensor dome.

Before:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082721.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_082721.jpg.html)

After:

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_150250.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_150250.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_145641.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170204_145641.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 05, 2017, 08:11:42 am
Missed some spots, but just about there!!!!!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/2017-02-05_0709.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/2017-02-05_0709.png.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 05, 2017, 08:46:23 am
Looking excellent, Jimmy! Lovin the light show!

Its the accomplishment of little tasks that make the model! And the model is looking suhweet!!

Keep plugging along! The finish line is in sight!!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 06, 2017, 06:47:04 am
Got the first coat of base coat on yesterday. She isn't ready for pics yet, highlighted some additional areas for light blocking and some minor repair work to the impulse deck and port saucer mount torp launchers, which I forgot to mask, so those need repainted too. Fun times LOL

Might take me to the weekend to get another layer of paint on, but getting there. Now... I need registry decals. I have the standard Fed Dread decals from JTGraphis, but I need the custom registry, and don't want to wait for JTGraphics to get some custom ones to me. Anyone know who I can go to, beg, borrow, pay to get some printed out for me?
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 11, 2017, 12:22:08 pm
First base coat is on, I'll need to get at least one more on there in a couple of spots. Before I attached the 3rd warp nacelle, I'll be putting down the strong back and secondary colors. Decided to go with a modelmasters chromate green, or at least test it out. Anywho, check her out!

Still need custom registry!!!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111443.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111443.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111452.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111452.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111500.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111500.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111517.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170211_111517.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 11, 2017, 12:38:18 pm
Just went through this thread. Started last April, taken almost a year to get this far. I had forgotten just how much work went into this build. I'm going to be extremely satisfied when she is done!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on February 11, 2017, 01:21:37 pm
continuing to look more and more awesome!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Lewilsons on February 11, 2017, 07:12:45 pm
This is looking good, nice work here so far, I can tell heavy modifications take a boatload of time. Keep at it.
L.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Lestatdelc on February 11, 2017, 09:23:37 pm
Looking nice.

As a side-note (and hope I am not guilty of thread-jacking) but I took a slight break form working on my refit workbee design work to help out someone who is working up detailed blueprints of a refit era Federation class Dreadnought. So it is cool to look at some of the pylon treatments some are taking on the third nacelle.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 12, 2017, 08:49:23 am
Thanks folks! Moving right along, I just wish weekends were a bit longer!

@Lestatdelc, no worries hope my muddling through helps someone else out in similar builds!

Found a few more light leaks... They have been addressed aggressively.  8)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074401.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074401.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074412.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074412.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074418.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074418.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074425.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170212_074425.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on February 12, 2017, 06:21:48 pm
how are you smoothing the black paint before going back in with white?  I'm always leery of external light blocking, but you seem to know just what you are about.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 12, 2017, 08:19:36 pm
The paint is thinner than you think. When I buy the paint pots, I fill the last 1/4 with thinner. It rarely leaves clean up work, and a quick sand takes care of any of that. Goes through the airbrush better too.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 13, 2017, 07:30:41 am
Jimmy, I SAID...didn't I say...I said this would be Awesome! BEYOND Awesome! BEAWESOME!

She is gorgeous! All of your hard work is finally paying off and the finish line is in sight!

Please keep going!

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 13, 2017, 07:55:08 am
Soon... But that light might be a bit farther out... I pulled out the aztec masks. Yeah, that might be happening. In fact I'm pretty sure I can get most of them to work (picked up the refit masks from Aztec Dummy). I'll have to modify the saucer bits for the additional phaser banks, the A/B decks, bridge, strongback, nacelle pylons, and the neck! Sounds like insanity to me! Just looking at it I can't keep her plain flat white. Just wouldn't sit right after the fact, if only I could stop seeing the mistakes that glare at me every time. But I think that is common with this hobby, we are our own worst critics!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 18, 2017, 11:00:48 am
Waiting for paint to dry...

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Charon%20Patch_2.png) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/USS%20Charon%20Patch_2.png.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 18, 2017, 05:51:07 pm
Whoa!


AWESOME!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 20, 2017, 07:31:20 am
Alrighty! Second base coat is on and I'm about 98% good with it! In a full dark test with the 3rd nacelle on, I did notice I have some significant light leaks there, but I'll address that shortly. Next up putting on aztec masking. That's gonna take me days, the painting will be a breeze LOL.

Also up for debate: NX-4377 OR NX-571X (I'm leaning toward NX-571X)

3rd nacelle isn't permanently attached yet, so it's at a weird angle, pay it no mind.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061952.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061952.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_062000.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_062000.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_062010.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_062010.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_043221.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_043221.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_043143.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_043143.jpg.html)

And the dreaded light leaks!

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061756.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061756.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061804.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170220_061804.jpg.html)

And a quick vid, minus speaker sounds:

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/th_VID_20170220_054031.mp4) (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/VID_20170220_054031.mp4)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Firebiro on February 20, 2017, 08:30:22 am
This really looks astonishing Jimmy, Something to be extremely proud of to say the least!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 20, 2017, 01:58:48 pm
Thanks Firebiro!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 25, 2017, 12:48:07 pm
Man, this stuff takes forever LOL. But I was at it for 6 hours, and needed a break for a bit (and this is just the top saucer!).

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170225_083931.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170225_083931.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170225_114409.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170225_114409.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on February 26, 2017, 05:24:48 pm
The masks may take forever, but the end result is worth it!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on February 26, 2017, 05:43:22 pm
I finished masking the top of the saucer this morning, and as of about an hour ago applied the first coat of pearl white. The effect is very subtle and I like that. I mixed up some of the blue pearl powder into some pledge floor wax, and after it dries for a day or so I'll mask off the various portions for the blue. Then rinse and repeat for the bottom of the saucer and then the rest of the ship.

Top saucer masking complete:
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_095800.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_095800.jpg.html)

Pearl white, the light has to hit it just right to make it shine!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162414.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162414.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162438.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162438.jpg.html)

Next up, Blue!
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162516.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170226_162516.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 26, 2017, 06:26:46 pm
Its looking AWESOME, Jimmy!!

Warp Speed ahead!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on March 04, 2017, 06:21:41 pm
Ok, now onto the bottom of the saucer... (decided not to go with the blue here, as I am more than satisfied with the pearl white).

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160154.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160154.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160207.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160207.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160828.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170303_160828.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on March 04, 2017, 07:09:17 pm
Oh yes, very nice subtlety to your two tone finish.  Very nice.  8)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on March 05, 2017, 11:01:05 am
This is as far as I got this morning... Bottom is strangely more difficult than the top lol.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_095257.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_095257.jpg.html)

Did get some great shots of the pearl being pearl... Once I hit it with a clear coat, the flat portion will go away, and all that will be left is the pearl at the right light/angle.

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055725.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055725.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055654.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055654.jpg.html)

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/Jimmypop57/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055643.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/Jimmypop57/media/537%20Federation%20Dreadnought%20-%20USS%20Charon/IMG_20170305_055643.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: starsiegeplayer on March 05, 2017, 03:16:25 pm
OOOOOOHHHH :o
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 06, 2017, 07:13:12 am
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :o

Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on March 11, 2017, 12:52:31 am
Ok, so good news is, I just bought my first home (well it's a condo, but twice as big as my apartment). Bad news, I'm packing stuff to move. Might be a few weeks until I can get set up and rolling again. Fed Dred is back in extended drydock  8^/
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on March 11, 2017, 05:53:48 pm
First house!  Congrats!  Totally understand the offline time until the move is complete.  See you on the other side!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on March 11, 2017, 06:58:07 pm
Thanks Scottminium! These are very exciting times. I'll get at least one more post in for the bottom azteking of the saucer, then everything is going into a box with lots of packing peanuts LOL
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 11, 2017, 10:24:22 pm
Congrats in the Condo, Jimmy!

Understandable break in the build. But some may interprete the delay as building anticipation for the reveal!  ;D

Congrats again! We'll be here when you get back!

Steve
 
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on March 12, 2017, 07:16:53 am
Thanks Steve! While it's a drag it won't be the last model I finish here, it will have the distinction of being the first model I finish in my new home. I couldn't think of a better or more unique model to christen the new place with!  ;D
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 12, 2017, 07:54:46 pm
Ok finally got unpacked (mostly) and running around fixing all the little things that needed fixing last two weeks. No one told me being a homeowner means I have to fix and repair at move in, but all of that is about done I think as I'm about broke as a joke now.

Over the next couple weekends I'll be digging through the "hobby" boxes, of which I was rather surprised made up about 2/3rds of my worldly possessions... Anywho, going to set up the paint station first, and pull the dread out. Left off before painting the pearl on the bottom of the saucer.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: LynnInDenver on April 12, 2017, 08:38:24 pm
Ok finally got unpacked (mostly) and running around fixing all the little things that needed fixing last two weeks. No one told me being a homeowner means I have to fix and repair at move in, but all of that is about done I think as I'm about broke as a joke now.

Having done that about 18 months ago, I can definitely agree with it being an expensive experience. We actually wound up installing carpet - although to be fair, we had a pretty good idea that the one room in the house needed some sort of flooring treatment, as it had exercise mats over concrete when we looked at it.

More of my annoyance was covering the Deep Coral walls in the office so that we could change it to Sage Green. Pictures would not do that paint justice.

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Over the next couple weekends I'll be digging through the "hobby" boxes, of which I was rather surprised made up about 2/3rds of my worldly possessions... Anywho, going to set up the paint station first, and pull the dread out. Left off before painting the pearl on the bottom of the saucer.

It took quite a bit before I could actually do modeling regularly in the house, partly because of needing to set up the workroom to my satisfaction. I'm finally where I can go down there every night and get stuff done.

Our hobby stuff did take quite a bit of the moving load, but the modeling was a very small part of that.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on April 20, 2017, 08:53:08 pm
Ugh, I've moved 15 times in 30 years and I'm ready to say no for just about any reason to another one.  Although my models are not a big part of that 'NO!', it is true that I think about models in the context of 'how will they move?'  I have a nearly ridiculous stash just now, and all of them were purchased wondering 'how will they move?'  I am quite ready to be done with that questioning.  However.  A plus side is that some of them inevitably break, which results in MORE SHELF SPACE!  Kind of a good cop, bad cop thing.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 22, 2017, 07:45:01 am
@scottminium Yeah, I have a rather large stash (some of which I totally forgot about being in boxes stashed in a closet for the last 2 years). These days I try to build mine with ease of transport in mind, but... the best laid plans of mice and men!

I pulled out the Dread this morning, now I'm trying to hunt down the rest of the fun stuff... I can't remember what box the airbrush and compressor are in, so a new search is now in progress. Pretty sure I labeled all those correctly, but that is a closet of boxes to wade through!  :o
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 02, 2017, 01:09:20 pm
Alrighty! It's been 5 months since the move, and learning all the fun things that need done when you buy a home. But last night I unpacked and reassembled the paint station. Finished the edge of the bottom saucer masking, and laid down the pearl white. Tomorrow I'll start masking the neck and secondary hull. Few months back I spoke to MSgtUSAFRet about how to print my own decals. Eventually we'll get there. This build is now about a year and a half old with the 5 month heidus.

PS: Looks like photobucket is out now, so sry if the old pics are MIA.

Post Season recap: Finished aztec on top of the saucer, had 90%+ of the bottom saucer masked off (This is where I left off)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BnXtUgWjFiUOWcPc2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XmvkGnHpGKYpHVS42
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5KIXwcVKBe9gaRx2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/plers4aZsTU8RPK83
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UUhzXlsbaPBTFswr2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9f4HNutKKlnM0yX62

Now back to this seasons premier! Got the bottom of the saucer masked, and pearl applied.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vPBbupKNtRYqqQ6q1
https://photos.app.goo.gl/0BAzzZ9G7nbk8bEJ3
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 05, 2017, 08:19:26 am
JIMMY!!! DUDE, I am so glad to see you back at it!

It sounds like the move went well and the Dreadnaught survived the move!

Nice job on the aztecing on the dorsal saucer!

Keep at it! Like I've always said, "This is gonna be AWESOME!"

LLAP! and Welcome back to it!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on September 14, 2017, 08:49:40 pm
Work is beating me into a pulp this month, but Oct should be slower. Not much to report, but I have most of the secondary hull masked off, need to fill in the holes on account of the hull being extended, finish the pylons, and start on the neck. Hopefully barring anything dumb this weekend I can be lazy about it and get it done.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/0zUlvKKB7N07YqUt2
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: scottminium on September 15, 2017, 06:37:28 pm
Looking sweet!
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 07, 2017, 08:25:22 am
I am so in a rut right now, since about mid march when I moved. Work picked up, but it's slowing down again. I just can't find the drive to finish this thing... Which is bothersome, it's so darn close now. I did get the masking on the secondary hull, but since it's stretched from a regular 537 refit, I need to start cutting tape to fill in the gaps. I think I need another work table, I find my lack of furniture disturbing.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 07, 2017, 10:04:27 am
Me: Master! I feel a disturbance in the Force!

Master: I feel it, too!

Me: I sense Jimmypop57 is struggling against the Dark Side of Apathy! What must we do?!

Master: We will commune with him through the Force and will him to complete his goals

Me: Yes, Master! We will! But I, too, find my lack furniture disturbing!

Master: I know, my young padawan. But the real question is: "Why are we using 'Star Wars' references in a Star Trek build thread?!"

Me: NOOOOOOOOOO!

Stay strong, Buddy! Once you dive in, you will find your center and finish this beautiful work of Art!

LLAP!

Steve
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 07, 2017, 10:37:15 am
I have expanded my hobby equipment to include 3D printers, so lots of folks want/need stuff.  Been printing a lot of star wars stuff for people recently, kinda stuck in star wars land. I haven't been completely idle over the last few months. I have taken the time to modify some SLT files for a Klingon Neg'Var and Vor'Cha ships, and have some pretty good models from those prints in 1:4000 and 1:2000 so far. But yeah, don't have a "work" space to do serious model work presently and it's bugging me (these printers take up a LOT of room), especially when Dec vacation time is coming up quick. It's when I do the bulk of my work through the year.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4527/38244803451_703a743b5e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21gyBCX)IMG_20170924_161219 (https://flic.kr/p/21gyBCX) by James Beard (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143225403@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Tankton on November 07, 2017, 12:23:03 pm
What decals are you looking for? I can do some custom ones for you.
Registry and whatnot.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Jimmypop57 on November 07, 2017, 11:34:07 pm
I have the USS Federation registry for it, but was hoping on something else. Still not really sure what to call the beast.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: Tankton on November 08, 2017, 10:04:29 am
If you need something let me know.
Title: Re: Refit Federation Dreadnought
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 21, 2017, 08:38:48 am
Okay, now you're just being a tease!

Whazzup?! :)

Steve