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Title: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on February 18, 2017, 06:02:11 pm
EDIT NOTE>>>
 When Photobucket decided to stick it to us all I deleted my account with them. After that I discovered that some of my pictures on there were not backed up locally, so they're lost. However, luckily I hadn't gotten too far in my build yet so there wasn't too much damage done. I'll try and replicate some of the lost pictures as I can.

Hi all
 I'm going to stray from the world of SciFi for a bit and start my 1/350 scale Minicraft Titanic, the Centennial Edition. (Yup...I can't seem to get away from these 1/350 scale things!)
  We all know the story of the iceberg and all the lives needlessly lost. The reason I have a special interest in this ship is because I had a relative on board. My branch of the family came to Canada in 1845 and his branch stayed in England. He was a steward on the ship....he didn't make it off.
 
Anyhoo, I'm planning on lighting this ship. I'll be using some strip lighting and no doubt lots of fibre optics and SMD's. It will be a challenge, but I'm really looking forward to it. I'll have to try and plan ahead but there are so many layers to the decks on here that it will be hard to do. What else is new...I don't know what I'm doing!  ::)

I have on order 6 (count 'em 6!) photo etch sheets from www.tomsmodelworks.com to finely detail this guy so I plan to spend the time and do the best job I can. I will be doing other things mixed in but this will be a big project for me. 

One piece of good news..anyone who has followed my 1/350 TOS Enterprise build i just finished will know what I mean when I say... Yay! ... very little in the way of seam work or decals!  ;D ;D

Wish me luck!

First off is the pre assembly picture.
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/001%20prebuild_zpsnkeqzppn.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/001%20prebuild_zpsnkeqzppn.jpg.html)

The first order of business is to drill out all the port holes on the hull. There are probably a good couple hundred of them but more good news..the port holes are round! Should be an easy go of it.  :)

Thanks for looking. Hopefully I can give you good folks some interesting pictures and updates as I go.  :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on February 19, 2017, 05:09:20 am
Did you say 1/350?  Go for it, Kevin, you're on a roll!  It'll be fun to watch:)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 21, 2017, 10:11:26 pm
Another 1/350?!?

You, Sir, are a glutton for punishment!

I like that! It reminds me of ME!

Any particular reason you picked this model? Are you gonna do some new technique?

It will be fun to watch!

Good luck with this build, Kevin!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on February 26, 2017, 04:35:14 pm
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You, Sir, are a glutton for punishment!
I like that! It reminds me of ME!
Any particular reason you picked this model? Are you gonna do some new technique?

Ya you got that right Steve!
  Other than the fact that I have a family link to the Titanic and I've always been fascinated by the events, it's just a beautiful ship. As far as techniques ... not really. I'm looking forward to the challenge of lighting it. I think it could be complicated with the many decks and lit vs. non-lit areas. It should be interesting!

Speaking of which, I have my first update.
  Not very interesting but I got all the windows drilled out in the hull. Man oh Man there were a TON of them! Thank God they were just simple round holes and not oval / rectangle like on my Voyager build or I'd be a year just doing that!
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/002%20drilling%20windows%201_zpsmasnqevq.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/002%20drilling%20windows%201_zpsmasnqevq.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/003%20drilling%20windows%202_zpsfhpuymyd.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/003%20drilling%20windows%202_zpsfhpuymyd.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/004%20drilling%20windows%203_zpshwve78t5.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/004%20drilling%20windows%203_zpshwve78t5.jpg.html)

I think next up I start working on the main deck and figuring out the best way to light the bottom.Of course there will be plenty of light blocking involved as usual.

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: pakratt840 on March 08, 2017, 09:20:41 pm
Looking good Kevin! Part of the fun of this hobby for me is watching other's projects and discovering an interest in a subject that I wasn't aware of before.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on March 09, 2017, 06:08:16 pm
Thanks Dan.  :)
  I'm a bit slow getting a real start with this. I've been taking a bit of a break while slowing working away at my Moebius Penguin build. I think I'll finish him up and then go at this one.
  I did get all the parts washed so once I'm ready it'll be ready to go.

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: ImWolf on March 10, 2017, 01:25:15 pm
Good start Kevin.... I've passed on this kit a few times now, not because I didn't really care for the subject, (which I do), but because of the mixed reviews ppl put out there about Minicraft....

So I'm quite happy to see a Guinea pig step up to the plate for a 1st hand report and example   :b
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 13, 2017, 07:20:49 am
My Gosh that is alot of port holes! Please tell me you didn't do all of them with a pin vise?!

Family link, eh?! I, and probably others, would love to hear about the family link to the ship and or event if you are willing to share. It is cool to know there is a personal reason behind a build, a memory, a feeling, a connection of sort, to that actual subject material that seems to add meaning to the final product!

Still watching and enjoying the thread!

Steady as she goes!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on March 14, 2017, 04:16:40 pm
Thanks for the encouragement guys..  :)

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My Gosh that is alot of port holes! Please tell me you didn't do all of them with a pin vise?!

Oh Lordy no Steve! I used my dremel..  :)

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Family link, eh?! I, and probably others, would love to hear about the family link to the ship and or event if you are willing to share

I wish there was more to tell Steve, but there really isn't. His first name was Harold and he came from Southampton in England. He was a steward on the Titanic, and he went down with the ship. That's really all I know. Unfortunately the records on him are pretty sketchy, but I do know he was a relative and I know he was there.
  However, that's still enough to feel a bit of a 'connection' to the ship and to him, so that gives me a nice amount of motivation to do the best job I can. Hopefully I can do it (and him) justice.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 01, 2017, 09:00:04 am
Hi all
 I'm back to work on my Titanic. I'll be working on it exclusively now for a while.
 The first assembly I'm working on is the base. The concept of it is really nice and I want to stick with it.
Just dry fitting it together gives an indication of how it will look.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4325/35413986314_7659d3498d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpWjW)DSC02998 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpWjW) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

There shouldn't be any problem in running power up to the ship through one of the mounts. There's plenty of room for running a couple wires or a plug up through there. It's just a matter of drilling a couple holes and getting the chassis mount female connector in exactly the right spot on the bottom of the hull. The base is hollow underneath so there won't be any problem running wires and installing a jack and switch.

There is one crummy thing however. The beautiful gold coloured mounting posts were attached to the trees in stupid spots so when they are cut off they basically create hugely mutilated areas next to the seams.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/006%20base%20setup%202_zpswjblklet.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/006%20base%20setup%202_zpswjblklet.jpg.html)

I'm not sure how I'm going to approach improving that look. I love the gold colour but those spots area tres ugly!   :'(
  I have to give it some thought. The obvious solution I guess is putty, sand and paint. I've got them glued together now and I'll think about things for a while. Any suggestions would be welcome!





Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 03, 2017, 08:28:07 am
Kevin, those mounting posts are terrible. Sympathies, Bro!

I can only suggest you putty, sand and then repaint the whole thing(s). The only consolation is that at least one side of them may never been seen.

But, knowing your builds, you will fix it in an outstanding manner!

Good luck, Jim!

(Cue "Mission: Impossible" music!) ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on April 03, 2017, 10:03:11 am
Kev, I agree with you and Steve and think patch and paint is your best option.  Here's something to consider -- the Alclad high shine finishes, like this brass finish that pretty close to gold looking:

http://alclad2.com/finishes/high-shine/alc-109-polished-brass/
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: ImWolf on April 04, 2017, 06:08:31 am
Yiker Diker Bikers!!!   Minicraft strikes again......     :*(

Next time you drive by a hardware store, you might wanna check out the brass and even copper plumbing accessories?
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 04, 2017, 02:44:56 pm
Thanks for the suggestions guys!
  I've kind of started with the puttying to see how that goes. Assuming it is OK I will try painting a gold colour again, or maybe a nice copper colour would work.

I have also thought about the possibility of some kind of tubing if that doesn't work. We'll see ...  :)

I do have to keep in mind that as long as they are acceptable it will be fine. After all, they will most certainly not be the centre of attention. If they are, then I've done a pretty crappy job with the rest of it!  ;D
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 05, 2017, 02:36:08 pm
I thought I'd do a light test on my Titanic last night. I gave the inside of the hull a coat of white, taped a length of warm white LED strip to the underside of the main deck and lit it up.
 I must say it looks pretty good! The deck has no light blocking or anything done to it yet but the windows in the hull light up very nicely and evenly.  :)

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/007%20light%20test%201_zpszi7vni1c.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/007%20light%20test%201_zpszi7vni1c.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/008%20light%20test%202_zpsllmk07a9.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/008%20light%20test%202_zpsllmk07a9.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/009%20light%20test%203_zpsxm4guhyl.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/009%20light%20test%203_zpsxm4guhyl.jpg.html)

I'm still working on the posts for the base. I'm also running a couple other options throught my little pea brain in case this doesn't work, but one thing at a time.  :)

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on April 05, 2017, 04:57:39 pm
Nice windows, Kev, especially the square ones!  Any secrets on how uniform you made them?
Al
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 06, 2017, 03:34:48 am
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Nice windows, Kev, especially the square ones!  Any secrets on how uniform you made them?

Thanks Al!
   Well I wouldn't share this secret with just anyone .....   and don't tell anyone.......but but my secret was to let minicraft do it.  ;D
  It came with the square holes open.....
 ;D
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 14, 2017, 02:11:50 pm
Well here's the scoop folks....  :)

Several years ago I actually started working on an older version of this kit. It was long before I had any air brush, proper tools, or any modelling skills to speak of. I got a fair ways into it and decided that it just was not looking good and I got discouraged and quit it. I packed it away in a tote and forgot about it for years.
  Anyway, I got the idea the other day to dig it out and use it as a guinea pig unit so I can plan and test to make sure I have the proper wiring etc set up for lighting the good one I'm working on now. There are many rooms ... and rooms inside rooms on this kit so I will have to plan way ahead to make sure I don't miss anything. I think it will be a big help to be able to see what's coming up before I get to it!
 

Here are a few pictures of the old kit. I'm gluing a few more of the sub assembly rooms together so I can get it semi put together. Then I can play with lighting ideas.
  As you can see, I did get a fair amount done to it, and you can also see that it wasn't looking too good. Hopefully I'll be able to do a better job this time!  ;D

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/010%20old%20t%201_zpsfkxewwmn.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/010%20old%20t%201_zpsfkxewwmn.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/012%20old%20t%203_zpsm5sau6fo.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/012%20old%20t%203_zpsm5sau6fo.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/011%20old%20t%202_zpsi8j4ovvp.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/011%20old%20t%202_zpsi8j4ovvp.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/karve123/Minicraft%20Titanic/013%20old%20t%204_zpsuxk3bh81.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/karve123/media/Minicraft%20Titanic/013%20old%20t%204_zpsuxk3bh81.jpg.html)

I ran some strip lighting along the inside just to get an idea of what I should do. By the looks of things that will be tha way to go for the most part.

Also, I have been working on those mounting posts. I've decided that I can't really make them look any good. The fit just isn't good enough. I found the ones from the old kit and they do look a bit better than the ones from the new one, so I'm just going to go with them.

I am going to get some supplies tomorrow and then I will be able to get the base wired up and glued together. Then I can get to work on painting the hull and then I'll make some good progress!
 Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 17, 2017, 02:34:18 pm
I finally got a good start at my model this weekend.
  Once I decided to go with the mounting posts that came with the old kit, and I got the switch and plug I needed for the wiring, it was finally time to get the base glued together. Once that was done I got the wiring run. It was definitely the easiest base wiring I've ever done!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/35413985714_8b1218560a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpW9A)DSC02999 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpW9A) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

In order to get the power up to the ship it was just a matter of drilling a couple holes in the base and in one of the clear mounts that the ship will sit on. very simple and straight forward. (I like that!)
 Once that was done I centred the ship on the base, did a bit of measuring and drilled a small hole in the bottom.... done!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4329/35413985314_cc600ca231_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpW2G)DSC03000 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpW2G) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4313/35413984524_9c60fd4fbe_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpVN5)DSC03001 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpVN5) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I need to get the hull all painted and clear coated before I actually run the wire out of the bottom.
  The next thing I did was install the LED strip on the bottom of the main deck. I had already painted it so it was time for that. (The deck is a nice tan wood colour, but the lighting sucked when I took the pictures so it looks way off)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4293/35413983824_61a34d9334_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpVA1)DSC03002 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpVA1) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

As far as I can figure I got the proper number of wires running up through the deck for the decks to come ... I hope!  ::)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4303/35413980544_6d22e8e062_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXpUBs)DSC03005 (https://flic.kr/p/VXpUBs) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Of course there is a bit of a fit issue at the front where the deck meets the hull. I had to dremel a bit to get an OK fit, but I'll still have some filling to do for light blocking etc.

So anyway, I've finally got a start at it. Hopefully I won't mess it up too badly!
Thanks for looking.  :)

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on April 17, 2017, 03:35:04 pm
It's coming together nicely, Kev.  Fun following a build so different from scifi!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 18, 2017, 07:56:42 am
This is looking Excellent, Kevin!

As always, your attention to detail is astounding!

Keep at it!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: jazzydog on April 18, 2017, 05:15:24 pm
Interesting build to watch progress!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on April 18, 2017, 05:38:57 pm
Thanks guys.
  Since it's not a scifi build I don't really expect a lot of interest, but it should be interesting to see it come together, especially if the lighting works like I hope it will.
 
I got the hull primed yesterday and should hopefully start painting it in the next couple days. That should at least get it starting to look like something.  :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Tankton on April 18, 2017, 07:44:36 pm
I like ships.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on May 09, 2017, 03:01:53 pm
Hi all  :)
  It's been a while since I posted anything here (or anywhere else for that matter). It's been a busy time plus I hurt my back a while ago so I haven't really been able to do much. However, I have gotten back at it so I thought I'd do a bit of an update.

 First up, I got the hull painted it's main colours. I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. I'm really pleased with the colour of the antifouling (under the water line). A lot of the colours on this ship are a bit open to interpretation. However, according to the references I've found, and the 1997 movie, I managed to get the colour pretty close to accurate.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4321/36185688416_59e1e93ddb_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X8B7tA)021 hull painted 2 (https://flic.kr/p/X8B7tA) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/36227139625_23aaa2a907_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XcgytB)020 hull painted 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XcgytB) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

There is a coloured band that goes around where the black meets the white, however there are decals for those. I'll attempt to put them on at some point when the time is right.

The other thing I've been doing is preparing everything to get the first deck put onto the hull. Of course that involves a lot of planning for the lighting...which is of course a 'make it up as I go along' thing.
 The lights inside the various rooms should be fairly straight forward. I'll use SMD's or 3mm LED's, whichever works best for the size of the room. However, one area that interests me is the external lighting and in the various walkways. I've been looking at screen shots (as well as watching the movie while I was off work with my back) and one thing that caught my eye was the lights on the outside walls like in the picture below.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/35414216764_0632a2d023_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VXr7Qd)abandon-ship-scene-titanic-1997-dt6rxc (https://flic.kr/p/VXr7Qd) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Obviously the answer for that is fibre optics.
  I figured out what I would need for the first and second deck rooms at the back of the ship and ran them up through the deck.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4305/36227139735_7e30ba0962_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Xcgyvv)022 FO for lights (https://flic.kr/p/Xcgyvv) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

  I put the first big room together for the main deck, light blocked it, and kinda set it in place and did a rough (Really rough!) version of lighting the interior and the exterior wall lights. Actually I think it will work quite well!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/36185688346_f72e5d5c61_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/X8B7so)023 lighting test (https://flic.kr/p/X8B7so) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Light blocking is a pain for this guy. Not only do all the walls need it, but every deck needs it as well. I've seen pictures of a couple kits that guys lit without light blocking the decks. At first you think it looks cool until you look closer and the decks are all lit from underneath ... it just isn't right!  :o
 The one area where it could be a real problem is along the top and bottom edges of the rooms. It may not be possible to light block them all properly,  but I'll have to tackle them one at a time and see what I can do.
  Anyhoo...thanks for looking! I'll post more as I go along.  :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Tankton on May 09, 2017, 03:36:13 pm
I love the attention to details.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Madhatter on May 10, 2017, 08:24:19 am
its great to see the original predecessor from the same company as my subject, the QM2, being built as well. I don't envy you though when it comes time to do the rigging. I think that's the only reason I have never bought a kit of this subject  ;D
I shall enjoy watching you build this beautiful liner up. It does scream for lighting!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on May 10, 2017, 12:28:56 pm
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I don't envy you though when it comes time to do the rigging.

Thanks MH ...I was trying not to think about that!  ;D ;D

But seriously folks ... I actually have been thinking about it some. The thread/string that was included in the old kit I have is way too thick. I think it would have overpowered the model. You can see it in the pictures of the old kit I posted here.
  With this reissue I believe they overcompensated and made it way too thin...we're talking human hair thin. I can barely see it, let alone try and work with it!  ???
  Therefore I decided to compromise and I raided my wife's sewing kit (with her permission of course ...I'm not quite as dumb as I look!  ;D ) and took a roll of grey thread. It's much thinner than the stuff in the first kit, but it's much thicker than the thread from the new kit. I think it will work much better.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: ImWolf on May 10, 2017, 03:12:09 pm
Very nice detail there Kevin.....   Can't wait to see how you build the ice berg!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on May 10, 2017, 03:49:04 pm
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Very nice detail there Kevin.....   Can't wait to see how you build the ice berg!

Thanks ImWolf! After all the work that's going to go into this baby I don't think I'll be sinking her..  ;D

I was doing a bit of work on things after work and I thought I'd take a picture of this....
  There are some who might say I've really flipped out this time ...and I might tend to agree. Below is a picture of the sheet of photo etch for the windows in this kit after giving it a coat of primer.....

My eyes are going cross eyed just thinking about working with these!  :o
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/36227139585_9b89f6e7e1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XcgysV)024 window photo etch (https://flic.kr/p/XcgysV) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Oh well  ... truth be told I'm looking forward to it! My thinking is that if I paint them first (they are all the same colour) then put a coat of future on them they might stay nicer when I detach them and install them....we'll see.  ::)

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 12, 2017, 09:35:18 pm
This is looking great, Kevin! I'm always impressed with how clean your builds are! My bench alas looks a mess!  ;)

That Photoetch stuff looks crazy but I know you'll do a great job!

Steady as she goes!!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AnythingSciFi on June 14, 2017, 10:00:49 am
Great work so far! I have one of these coming up in 2018!!
Love what you are doing to it and you attention to the detail!!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on July 29, 2017, 02:35:57 pm

 When Photobucket decided to stick it to us all I deleted my account with them. After that I discovered that some of my pictures on there were not backed up locally, so they're lost. However, luckily I hadn't gotten too far in my build yet so there wasn't too much damage done. I'll try and replicate some of the lost pictures as I can.
  I've switched to Flickr and am in the process of switching the links I can to get my thread pictures back, both here and in my TOS Enterprise build. It'll take a while but hopefully it'll all be good in the end.  ;)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on August 19, 2017, 01:00:03 pm
Hi all  :)
  Well I finally decided it was time to get off my lazy arse and start working on my Titanic again. I seem to have needed a break from modelling for a while so I took the time.
 However, it's time to get back at it and get something accomplished.

Today I just dipped my toe in and did a bit of work that has been sitting on my bench waiting for me....

When last we met, I had primed my sheet of photoetch window frame inserts. After that I painted the whole sheet dark brown, except for one corner which will be a different colour. I also put a coat of future over it when it dried in order to try and make the paint a bit less likely to come off as I work with it.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4397/35863438303_e289d3a942_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uKa)025 photoetch painted (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uKa) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Today it was time to get some window frames installed in the first room I was working on before I took my break. I had put some thin clear styrene in behind the windows, and now was the time to insert the frames. I brushed some Micro Foil Adhesive in each window and carefully put each frame in place. I must say, it was much easier than I thought it was going to be. Since the photoetch is so extremely thin the windows came off the sheet very easily with my hobby knife. They fit into place in the frames nicely and they don't look half bad!  :)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4395/35863438133_c2c7d41f17_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uGe)026 first window frames installed (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uGe) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

The only thing is that on the real Titanic the windows were flush with the outside walls. However, since I had to put the styrene on the inside, on my ship the windows are inset a bit.  ::)

Also, one other thing to note is that because the photoetch is so very thin, trying to file off any little nubblies left when I cut the pieces off the sheet is out of the question. It would destroy them in no time. I just have to cut them off as close as I can and live with the results....oh well ...  ::)

Next I fired up my compressor and air brush and did my first bit of detail painting around some hatches and posts where some cranes will go.
I also painted the bottom half of the front of the room. I think I'm going to have lots of fun detailing this baby....  ;)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4432/36534133571_d053036499_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XEoZ5F)027 first detail painting 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XEoZ5F) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4418/35863438003_13a305ed58_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uDZ)028 first detail painting 2 (https://flic.kr/p/WD8uDZ) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Anyway, that's about it for today. Like I said, I just wanted to stick my toe in and see how it went. Now I have to sit down and review all my plans that I had made as far as lighting and figuring out the order I need to do things in. Once I figure that all out again I think I'll be nearly ready to get the first deck glued into the hull.

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Tankton on August 19, 2017, 01:52:32 pm
Glad to see you back at it. I know what you mean about needing a break.
I've been sort of taking one myself. This ship is looking great love the added
details.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on August 19, 2017, 04:11:49 pm
This is a BIG project, so you've got to be ready to take it on!  Sounds like you're there, so roll up them sleeves 'cause we're all looking forward to this one;)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on August 20, 2017, 11:23:17 am
Thanks guys ... it's good to be back at it.  :)

This morning I decided to give something a try. If you recall from earlier in the thread I said that there were decals to apply for the gold band around the ship at the top of the hull. I've never been really cool with using those, especially after the troubles I had with the decals on my TOS Enterprise build....a bit gun shy I suppose.  ::)

Therefore I decided to try and paint them on. What I needed was a way to get a nice sharp band at a uniform width all the way around the ship. My answer came when I found the sheet of window cover masking etc. from said Enterprise build. That sheet had several thin bands on it for some use. That was my answer.  :)

I ran those strips around the ship at the right spot ....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4367/36646533126_b6a4f13574_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4y3)029 gold band 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4y3) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Then I ran the masking tape that counted on the top and bottom of it being very careful to keep it uniform, then removed the centre strip....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4347/36646533206_962dc6dc87_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4zq)030 gold band 2 (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4zq) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Painted it and I was shocked to see that it worked really well!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4343/36523367452_35ca73f3f0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XDrNFW)031 gold band 3 (https://flic.kr/p/XDrNFW) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/36646533026_eac6acd2d2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4wj)032 gold band 4 (https://flic.kr/p/XQk4wj) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

In truth it is wider than scale, but it really sets the look of the hull off. I'm really pleased with it. I had anticipated needing to do more masking and doing some touch ups, but it really turned out well!
  Now, I just need to touch up a couple spots around the hull and apply a coat of future to protect it all. I should be able to do that in the next couple days.

Thanks for looking... :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AnythingSciFi on August 20, 2017, 12:39:30 pm
Those PE windows look so much better than the plastic ones! You are really making this kit look
good!
You would be amazed how many times I have seen people overlook that gold trim on their build!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on August 22, 2017, 07:43:49 am
Kevin, Sorry I  missed the "Welcome Back" train so, ya know, "Welcome Back" to it!

As always, you builds are inspirationally clean (at least for the pics) and well done! Nice masking on the gold stripe.

The PA
Those PE windows look so much better than the plastic ones! You are really making this kit look good!

I'm with Kenny about the windows! Looking forward, as always, to seeing your work up in lights!

Keep going and stay strong!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on August 27, 2017, 03:55:17 pm
Thanks for the kind words guys ....much appreciated!

I've been working away at Titanic this weekend and got a bit accomplished. Overall not bad..  :)

The first thing I did was get the interior lighting done for the Second Class Library that I've been working on. My first attempt involved two 3mm LED's strategically placed in there in what I hoped would be good spots....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4385/36041217033_32566da02c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQEaF)033 SCL lighting 1 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQEaF) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4409/36710977281_070061d772_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XW2mya)034 SCL lighting 2 (https://flic.kr/p/XW2mya) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Umm nope.....the light was not uniform at all. It looked pretty crappy.  :-[

So I ripped that out and tried plan B, which I knew should have been plan A right from the start ... Dunno WHAT I was thinking ...  ::)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4361/36041216903_da60eb37cf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE8r)035 SCL lighting 3 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE8r) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Strip lighting ....only makes sense doesn't it  ::)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4420/36041216393_497132eeec_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDYD)036 SCL lighting 4 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDYD) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Much better! It looks nice and uniform and it doesn't seem to be to bright. I was also pleased with how the exterior lights on the wall looked. The fibre optics really did a nice job.
  Once that was done I glued the roof/ deck above in place over that library. It was a pain getting the clamps to hold it down but I got it eventually. I have a feeling that won't be the last tricky glue job with this guy.  ::)

Ok, so once that was done I decided that it was time to get the first deck glued into the hull. I did a bit of wiring to get power up to it through the bottom of the ship ....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/36041462393_6d4d756873_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WURV72)036a wiring for main deck (https://flic.kr/p/WURV72) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr


And got it glued in place. It was tricky getting it set just right and I had to apply weight in various spots overnight to hold it in place but I think everything is OK.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/36041216333_80d05b695a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDXB)038 deck glued to hull 2 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDXB) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4370/36679464722_994f7f826e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XTeQYb)037 deck glued to hull 1 (https://flic.kr/p/XTeQYb) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

So far so good. There are gaps around the edge that I'll have to do something with....once I figure out what that will be.  :o

Here is a picture of what we will actually be able to see of the library I got lit up earlier. Not much detail visible, but that's how it will be for each little area.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4441/36710977461_98324ed874_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XW2mBg)039 view of SCL (https://flic.kr/p/XW2mBg) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

However, I'm hoping the big picture will be far more impressive!


Anyhoo, I have started laying out and gluing together the walls fro the next deck. What you see here are the walls for the first class restaurant and the second class smoking room. What I do is glue the corners of the walls together while they are sitting in the proper position so I make sure they are shaped correctly. Once the corners are dry then I can prime, light block and paint them....and do the windows.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/36041216713_eaca9f2110_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE5a)040 next layer started (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE5a) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Ok as I was test fitting the various walls in place for this level I made an observation. What you see here are the walls for a private promenade on each side of the ship.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4349/36041216593_dbb023b8a1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE36)041 private prom 1 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQE36) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Upon closer inspection I noticed that all the detail on these walls face the INSIDE ... where no one will ever see them! Yay Mincraft!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4341/36041216203_cbaedde3a2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDVn)042 private prom 2 (https://flic.kr/p/WUQDVn) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I thought briefly about trying to cobble things together to get them turned around ..... I don't know I may but I don't think so. With the size of the outside windows looking into it It'd very hard to see anything anyway. One has to think however...this is what, the third release of this kit??? How many times do we need to release it to iron out the bugs!  :o

Anyway, onwards and upwards. Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on September 11, 2017, 07:57:20 am
This is a very impressive build, Kevin!

I'm still in awe of how clean your builds are! (At least the pics!  ;D)

The details on this ship and the care with which you display them is, as always, beawesome!

Hang in there and keep the updates coming!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Macupar on September 17, 2017, 07:48:00 am
She is looking great! I have been thinking of picking one of these up. You might be the reason I get one!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 01, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
I thought it was time for a quick update. I've been working away at Titanic slowly as time permits. However, most of what I've been doing hasn't been worthy of taking any pictures. There's been a lot of delicate work installing windows in the walls and it's just not that exciting.  :o

Anyway, I got the next set of walls glued in place and I thought I'd snap a few pictures as they dry.

Another thing I have done is I got the strip lighting installed on the inside portion of the first deck.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4450/37437441381_b60bf8475c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dF2g)043 more inner walls (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dF2g) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

For the little separate room I just installed one little SMD. It works well.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4359/37437441131_87ed76b2c7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEWX)045 lighting (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEWX) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Here's a picture of some of the small window frames I've been installing. Man they are delicate!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4332/37437441211_b16a943022_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEYk)044 windows 1 (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEYk) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Finally I lit up the model to have a look at this next level.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4353/37437441081_bbd26e87ed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEW6)046 windows lit (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEW6) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

They do look pretty good.

Anyway, sorry for the lack of exciting updates. Once I get working on the next levels it should pick up. I have to do the top two levels as one assembly and then attach it to what I have done here.

Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Matt OBrien on October 04, 2017, 10:55:02 pm
Your build is looking GREAT, Kevin. You're a brave man to jump head-long into a lighted build. This is no easy kit to begin with (like many have pointed out..... Minicraft says it all) let alone trying to light block the thing.

As if you didn't need another website to check out, go over to http://titanic-model.com/ and waste a few days over there. You can see all kinds of info related to this very kit....along with other kits and projects as well.

I've been a member over there for a time and am one of the trustees for the site. One of the other trustees built a website documenting his 10+ year long build seen here: http://www.titanicmodel.net/

His kit is lit as well but done so long ago that LED tech has moved well beyond what it is today (LED strip was still in it's infancy). If there was ever a build that makes one question their skills, it would be this build. He makes me feel like some hack struggling with a Snap-Tite kit.

Due to a "health issue" that sidelined my painting and gluing hand, I haven't really posted anything over there for a while, but here's the link to my build. Quite a ways off from finished, but I'll get there.

http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=5842&mesg_id=5842&page=3

I'll keep checking back to see your progress! Can't wait to see more. You're rekindling my desire to get back to building this again!

Matt

P.S. There's a solution to that deck light-blocking issue (the edges). See the 12th photo of my build log. Strip styrene is the way to go....and has the Rivet Counter seal of approval. It's an actual detail on the ship that's not well known and the strip is easier to work with and manipulate.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 05, 2017, 02:07:57 pm
Quote
There's a solution to that deck light-blocking issue (the edges). See the 12th photo of my build log. Strip styrene is the way to go....and has the Rivet Counter seal of approval. It's an actual detail on the ship that's not well known and the strip is easier to work with and manipulate.

Wow thanks for the kind words and all the advice Matt!
  Those pieces around the edges will be the cat's meow...it'll be perfect! I will definitely check out those sites. Thanks again!

EDIT ... I had a look at your build Matt after posting this and simply put I was blown away! The level of detail is astounding ... It's absolutely fabulous work! Man you set the bar impossibly high! I can only hope I can do a cheap imitation of what you've done. Excellent!
  You've definitely given me some ideas that I hadn't thought of so far. I'll keep checking it out as I go as a reference if you don't mind.  :)

As for the other build you gave me the link to ....Art's build....well....that thing is just beyond belief. OMG it's just  ..... there are no words.....  :o
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Matt OBrien on October 08, 2017, 01:52:42 pm
Thanks Kevin......you flatter me. I'm having an "Aw shucks" moment right now. To be honest, I just copy-cat most of the other builds I see and try to come close to what they've done. I have a 7X Opti-visor that helps me spot things that are out of whack before I call it good and move on to the next part.

The build that set me off down the path of "no return" was the one featured on it's own website......the lighted waterline model linked above. The guy that built that is not of this earth. The things he was able to do at 1/350 scale is mind blowing. Machine turned telegraphs and ship's bell?......I mean, c'mon!

It's easy to get sucked into doing heavy detailing and flaw corrections.....and before you know it, you're hundreds of dollars and hundreds of months deeper into the build. I'm glad you got a little inspiration from my build. I'm using yours to give me a swift kick in the rear to start back up. The problem I'm facing is correcting the 70-some deck and roof vents on the ship. Not a single one is correct and many are just plain missing.

Can't wait to see what you have to post next. I look forward to it!

Regards,

Matt
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: ImWolf on October 08, 2017, 03:48:50 pm
Those Titanic build links you posted are total eye-candy Matt....  Almost "suspended disbelief".

(That's when you see something you know is physically impossible, but there it is).

Thanks for posting   :b
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 09, 2017, 01:01:51 pm
Kevin, I still think you are doing an awesome job on this build! You, sir, inspire me to think I can do a TOS 350 build, too! (If I get through all my Sci-Fi builds, I might consider some real life building!)

Keep it going! I love the window and light effects you have so far!

Matt, it's always a priviledge to meet "new" builders to the site! Can't cruise by your site, but it is on my "to-do" list!

Steady as she goes, Kevin!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 09, 2017, 01:26:49 pm
OK well it's time for a quick update folks.
  I'm on vacation this week so I'm hoping to get some good size chunks of time to work on my model, so here we go.

First however, I have to kick myself in the arse. :-[

After reading the encouraging post from Matt and seeing the outstanding quality of work that he has put into his build so far (not to mention the one that the other fellow Art did) I had a look at what I was doing and had done so far .... and I realized that I really need to kick my game up several notches. I know I simply don't have the talent to approach their level, but I can do better than what I've been doing.

There is simply no excuse for what I see of the seams on the corners of these rooms in this picture.....
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4332/37437441211_b16a943022_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEYk)044 windows 1 (https://flic.kr/p/Z3dEYk) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I know how to putty and sand seams to make them invisible ... so why didn't I do it for these? Laziness? Just didn't think of it? Dunno ....
Yes I'm zoomed in huge on this shot and they're barely noticeable when looking at it from any distance, but I can do better than that. I will try and fix these up a bit but they are already glued to the ship so I'm limited in what I can do for these. However, there will be no more seams looking like this!  There are also other things that I need to improve on, so it's time to suck it up and get to it! 8)

Thanks Matt for (unknowingly) kicking me in the pants!  ;)

So...onwards and upwards ....

The rooms on the side of the ship at this level can have some detail put in that can be visible from the outside. However, the back walls prevent the light of the strip LED's from getting to them. They are too dark.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4446/37598803831_423e79be3b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGst)047 Side room lighting 1 (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGst) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4466/37598803771_17b3f55932_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGrr)048 side room lighting 2 (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGrr) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I toyed with a couple ideas and decided that probably the best way to get those rooms lit will be with a couple SMD's on the 'ceiling' in the rooms. As a test I taped three of them in the right spots and lit them up. I discovered that they were way too bright so I added some resistance to them and that dimmed them down to a nice level.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4495/23746049158_baff0320c8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CbmH7E)049 side room lighting 3 (https://flic.kr/p/CbmH7E) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4454/37549933276_d5b15f75ee_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadWG)050 side room lighting 4 (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadWG) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

The room does seem a bit overexposed in the picture, but in real life it's nice.
Now I just have to decide the amount of detail I'll realistically be able to put into these side rooms.

Next up I started working on the long first class promenade walls. They have got all kinds and flavours of windows in them. Most of them have 'frames' molded into them. In order to use the nice photo etch ones in their place, they have to come out....  :o
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4511/37549933176_2b5141a032_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadUY)051 cleaning out windows 1 (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadUY) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

In the above picture in the circle is the original window on the left and the one that I've cleaned out on the right. It's not a hugely difficult thing to do but it's time consuming. Yup, I need to confront that nasty "P" word again ....patience!  ::)

Once the window is cleaned out I set the good frame in place and it looks pretty good.  :)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4498/37549933096_3aaf066706_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadTA)052 cleaning out windows 2 (https://flic.kr/p/ZdadTA) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Like I said, these walls are long and there's lots of windows that have to get done.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4448/23746048948_fbb7ebb80c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CbmH43)053 cleaning out windows 3 (https://flic.kr/p/CbmH43) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I've got a good start at it but I've got a long way to go with them. However, I've seen how great it looks when they are done right...so I just have to take my time!

Thanks for looking ... and reading my rant! :)

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Tankton on October 09, 2017, 05:51:22 pm
Don't cuss yourself too much Karve, we've all had that forehead slapping moment before.
Take your time she's looking fabulous. I would have gone blind by now with all that small
tedious work.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 12, 2017, 05:56:27 am
Thanks Tankton .. I needed that  :)

Well I got all the windows cleaned out on both promenade walls. It really wasn't too bad once I got the hang of it. It's just a matter of taking my time and being fussy about it. Of course, some turned out cleaner than others, but over all they are good. The photo etch windows fit quite well for the most part.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4446/36940927124_9cdbfdcf45_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YhkUCC)054 cleaning out windows 4 (https://flic.kr/p/YhkUCC) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

There was a set of four windows on both pieces where the molded 'frames' were a complete disaster. There was no way to eliminate them and have the opening for the good frames be the right size. To fix that I just drilled out the opening, glued a thin piece of styrene on top, and then build the proper size window in it.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4511/36940928194_9d294a4415_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YhkUX5)055 cleaning out windows 5 (https://flic.kr/p/YhkUX5) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

A little puttying and sanding to get rid of the seams there and it'll be good to go.  :)

I was really pleased with how well that went. Now I have some windows to clean up on the end walls and then I can get that section light blocked, pianted and glued together.

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 12, 2017, 07:35:00 am
This is looking Great, Kevin!

Like Tankton said,
Don't cuss yourself too much Karve, we've all had that forehead slapping moment before.

Or in my case, banging your head on the workbench moment! :)

I had to do the same on my current build - let the photo etch part be the fine detail - so you are not alone in backtracking! Just don't let it stop you - which you haven't by the looks of things!

Keep plugging along! You are doing wonderful work here!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 16, 2017, 04:23:49 pm
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Keep plugging along! You are doing wonderful work here!

Thanks Steve ....much appreciated.  :)

I have just a quick little update today. Like i said, after seeing the other great Titanic builds Matt gave me the link to I decided I needed to step it up so I decided to try and make a couple areas a bit better looking. The first is the two private promenade decks that I had installed earlier.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4446/37598803831_423e79be3b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGst)047 Side room lighting 1 (https://flic.kr/p/ZhtGst) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

There is one on each side of the ship and if I use transparent styrene in the exterior windows instead of frosted you can kinda sorta see in through those windows. Therefore, I did some research and searching and found what I needed to bring these to life somewhat.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/37709860162_204aeda412_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZshTCN)057 private prominade (https://flic.kr/p/ZshTCN) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

The wall panelling and doors are a template I downloaded and printed out. I drilled out the windows properly and got the photo etch windows installed. After that a bit of 'plant material' and it looks better. :)

The other room I did this to was the Parisian Cafe on the same deck. The window frames were white in there so they need to be repainted. As for the four arch top windows, there were no windows put in those spots at all and I couldn't drill any out with it installed on the ship so I faked it. Still I'm satisfied with how it looks.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4459/37032399904_377e332872_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YqqJiw)056 parisian cafe (https://flic.kr/p/YqqJiw) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I'm going to put a couple lounge chairs and benches in the promenade decks but I think that's as far as I'm going to go. One could go right to town and make tables and chairs for the cafe etc. but I'm going to pass on that. I only have about 2% of the skill and patience I would need to take it to that level. Therefore I'm going to go for a representation of areas like these.
  One thing I know is that I definitely need more practice gluing these photo etch windows in place cleanly before I get to the ones on the very top of the ship where they are very visible!

So my next challenge is to actually make some of these lounge chairs and benches. I have the photo etch sheets for those but oh my gosh they are small! Stay tuned for that...it should be an adventure.  ::)

Anyhoo, thanks for looking.  :)

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Lestatdelc on October 16, 2017, 05:54:11 pm
This is looking really good. Eager to see more as your progress.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: AlW on October 16, 2017, 06:39:48 pm
Nice, Kevin, you've taken it up another notch and added a good deal more realism.  Keep going!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: pakratt840 on October 16, 2017, 09:46:30 pm
Wow! That is looking totally awesome Kevin. When you mentioned tables and chairs I thought of a 1/350 scale waiter with a white linen towel draped over one arm and a serving tray in the other hand. Then my eyes exploded and reality re-appeared. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on October 18, 2017, 04:24:34 pm
Thanks so much guys. I appreciate the encouragement..  :)

OK well ya gotta love the 1/350 scale!

I got the first of many photo etch benches put together....man oh man ...  :o

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4466/37781246481_5c4ab11dd1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZyALip)058 first bench 1 (https://flic.kr/p/ZyALip) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I have to find a way of either a) getting these put together without marking up the paint on them, which I did with this one, or b) repainting them once I have several of them put together without blowing them all over the room with my air brush!

Anyway, this is what one will look like in the private promenade deck when I eventually get to that point.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4493/37111346003_c69f8c066d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Yxpmea)059 first bench 2 (https://flic.kr/p/Yxpmea) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I haven't tackled the lounge chair yet but I'll get to to it shortly.
Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on October 19, 2017, 07:26:17 am
Dude! That bench is SMALL! Whoa! I hope you wore loops!

Anyway, as always, your builds inspire me to be cleaner and to be more precise!

Keep at it! I am learning more about this ship through your build!

Steve

Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Matt OBrien on October 24, 2017, 01:39:09 am
Ah, see?! See?! You've officially been sucked down the rabbit hole! This is looking great,  Kevin. The decision to tackle the Parisien Cafe and private promenades is just the start. Next you'll be making revolving doors for the first class smoking room.

I jest. Seriously though, this is turning out great. I didn't think to try my luck with those areas as mine was just going to be a trial run....moving on to a full-blown, lighted deal later.

My buddy John Hodge made up a bunch of downloadable images to be used in those areas as well as the first class dining room. He spent ages researching the floor tile patterns as well. I think he has added a link on the TRMA site so everyone can download the images and use then. Originally, the images were to be used for the larger scale semi-kits but he was able to scale them down for 1/350.

I had to hold my breath when I saw all your window mullions cut out (waiting to recieve the P.E. windows). When I did mine I ended up shattering them a couple of times. When it comes to your upper deck windows, they can be glued to the actual wall face, don't try and shape those openings perfectly to recieve the frame on the inside. You'll drive yourself insane.

Thanks to those who gave my build a look. It encourages me to get back to my own mothballed build. Kevin, let me look around and see if I have any extra brass masts. At least one set should have a fiberoptic fillament installed for the mast light. If I can figure out how to PM you, I'll see about mailing you a set, if you're interested. There's absolutely NO WAY those masts from the kit will support ANY rigging......at all, period.

Matt
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on November 10, 2017, 05:32:30 pm
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My buddy John Hodge made up a bunch of downloadable images to be used in those areas as well as the first class dining room. He spent ages researching the floor tile patterns as well. I think he has added a link on the TRMA site so everyone can download the images and use then. Originally, the images were to be used for the larger scale semi-kits but he was able to scale them down for 1/350.

Ya Matt I'm pretty sure the images I got were his. I actually downloaded them off the google images page I found through searching. They are really well done! I've got some others I will hopefully be using as well.

On to a quick update I have today. I haven't been doing much with my model lately. It's been a really stressful time at work (it's been hell) and I just haven't had the energy or motivation lately to do much. However, hopefully things are starting to calm down a bit so I'll be able to get back at it a bit more.

I have been working away at getting the promenade walls glued down to the deck.....it's not as easy as it might seem! The walls assembly is so long and the fit is, shall we say, questionable in spots that I decided the best way to do it was to glue it down in segments. First I glued down the ends. Then when they were dry I glued the next 4 or 5 inches down and clamped them in place. Today I finished the gluing on one side and clamped it. Tomorrow I'll do the other side and then it will be all glued down.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4531/37603676514_9381d282e9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZhUEWf)060 gluing promenade walls (https://flic.kr/p/ZhUEWf) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I obviously decided to wait until the walls were all in place before putting the windows in because there was a huge risk of damaging them as I clamped the walls down.
  Lighting this section will be a challenge because of all the 'boxes' inside there that I assume are there for support of the deck above it. I have to play with it a bit to get it uniformly light.

Sorry it's such a lame update, but like I said it's been a stressful time. Hopefully I'll be at it more regularly shortly.  :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Madhatter on November 11, 2017, 04:39:21 am
Just tuned back into this one and all I can say is WOW! Your attention to detail is amazing. I love the little trees inside!
You have the patience of a Saint with that PE! Your build maybe the inspiration and kick in the arse I need to pick up work on the QM2 again
Very nice work so far - Be very proud!
Si
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on November 12, 2017, 02:28:49 pm
Thanks Madhatter I appreciate the vote of confidence.  :)

I finished getting the promenade walls glued down to the deck and I wanted to get an idea of how things fit.
  Overall I think it's good except for a few exceptions which have nothing to do with me ...  ::)

I fit the top deck on the walls and everything seems to be lining up pretty nicely.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4524/26593087949_26cef9f38a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GvWwyn)061 Checking fit 1 (https://flic.kr/p/GvWwyn) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/38313970996_674a441dd8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21nF7JQ)062 checking fit 2 (https://flic.kr/p/21nF7JQ) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

The challenge will come in the area shown below.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4533/38338030002_ab959b1397_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21pNqDh)063 checking fit 3 (https://flic.kr/p/21pNqDh) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

In this area and another area further on the walls extend up past the deck. There is a real sizable gap all the way around on this upper deck where the light will just flood through, not to mention that it is a very visible gap in the deck.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/38338030052_d9bb2caf2d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21pNqE9)065 checking fit 5 (https://flic.kr/p/21pNqE9) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

I put the 'roof/deck' on the section and took the next photo. You can see the gaps I have to contend with at some point.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4578/38313970906_274f226d5f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21nF7Hh)064 checking fit 4 (https://flic.kr/p/21nF7Hh) by Kev C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157165555@N04/), on Flickr

Obviously the designers of this kit never intended for this kit to be lit, let alone have people want to make it as accurate as possible, but wow! ....  ???

I have some very thin LED strips on order from HDA MOdelworx to use as lighting along the promenade decks and other small areas. Once that gets here I should be able to start getting things organized for lighting the promenade deck and move on.

Onwards and upwards!
Thanks for looking.  :)
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 13, 2017, 12:10:48 pm
Kevin, this is looking impressive - per your usual work!

For the gaps, I don't know if you have used or heard of Perfect Plastic Putty (PPP) but I can see it being, uh, "perfect" for filling those gaps! It has pretty good light blocking properties, depending on thickness, but it would probably be a good idea to lightblock it with paint anyway.

Keep going!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: karve on November 13, 2017, 01:40:21 pm
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I don't know if you have used or heard of Perfect Plastic Putty (PPP) but I can see it being, uh, "perfect" for filling those gaps!

Thanks Steve .. I have PPP and have used it. I've also ordered a jar of Liquitex Professional Light Modeling Paste. I've heard some good things on the forum about it so I thought I'd order some and see how it goes. I may try using one of those or I have a couple other ideas bouncing around my pea brain.  ;D
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on November 14, 2017, 08:04:06 am
I may try using one of those or I have a couple other ideas bouncing around my pea brain.  ;D

You said "pea brain" and all I could think about was this!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/37700596464_f992bd4567_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZrtpRS)

 ;D ;D

Keep going, Kevin! I am enjoying your build!

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Rusty_S85 on December 13, 2017, 09:43:50 pm
Nice.  I see you are using fiber optics as well as LED strip lights.  Interesting combination.  I have a 1:350 scale Titanic I started on then decided to light up but progressed too far.  Hope to get some ideas for mine.  I'm thinking of running warm white LED strip lights then dropping wattage down enough to get the brightness the right level.
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 11, 2018, 08:13:56 am
Hey, Kevin!

Haven't seen you post in a while. What's going on here! Anything new?

Steve
Title: Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
Post by: Decoman on January 11, 2018, 10:35:29 am
Oh, wow, this LED lit model will look great in the dark I think! :) The more lighting the better.