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Title: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on January 31, 2018, 09:54:43 am
I will get around to posting the final Firefox pics up at some point as that kit is finished and on display.

Anyhoo! After the success of last years Charity Auction Build of the Zvezda Star Destroyer the members of the UK Garrison "jokingly" said why not a Super Star Destroyer for this year. So in my naivety I went and found the 38" resin Super Start Destroyer as supplied by Kornbanth. The Garrison has bought the model and I will build it for this years auction in November. And what a beast this kit is.

(https://i.imgur.com/2deGzvh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5ntfiBB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NglYr3M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rC1LB6b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vATAz79.jpg)

A very low parts count for the most part but when those bits 'n' bobs are about 2ft long each you start seeing the scale of this beast.

I don't plan on getting well into the build until about March as I really want to take a break from model building for a bit as this build will take a couple of months at least before we start seeing major progress. I have got the engine bells drilled out today more for something to do and wired up a 5mm led to see what it may look like towards the end of the build.

(https://i.imgur.com/D1mCPPC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vknEZjX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Hcym7yV.jpg)

Got s long, long way to go but the journey will be fun no doubt.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on January 31, 2018, 12:21:42 pm
Silly Iain.....   You simply refuse to stop with the FO till your eyes fall out of your skull !!!!

Really though...   I have one of these in the pile and have seen a few nice builds over at the RPF, so watching how you tackle this one will be more than entertaining.

I think you need to stock up on drill bits    :b
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: pakratt840 on January 31, 2018, 06:36:01 pm
Aw, come on Iain, admit it! You're a model building junkie :o  Can't wait to see this one take form and flight. Should be a fun adventure.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on February 01, 2018, 12:15:03 am
Nice one. I'm intending to start my one of these this year too if I can. I spent an hour or so marking out the areas that need grinding out etc. It's going to take a lot of time to do and with nearly 70 feet of FO cable ready to go in, I'm still not sure I have enough.

I'll be watching when your ready to start. Having a break can be very rewarding. What will you do when your not building?
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on February 01, 2018, 04:54:06 am
Mad - I intend to do as little as possible mate.

As for drill bits I will try the 0.25mm size and see how that goes when the time comes as although I have loads of 0.5 bits I think the smaller size will be more in scale.
As for lighting her up I think I will go with blue led tape on the inside with fo strands in the windows to pick up the light as space is at a premium on the inside (ie :- there isn't any).
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: holt35 on February 01, 2018, 08:23:38 pm
Great looking kit. I love the Super Star Destroyer and I'm looking forward to seeing this build!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on February 07, 2018, 07:52:06 am
Thanks guys.

Mad - do you have any pics of the areas you have marked up for a bit of a heads up??

Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Guns Akimbo on February 07, 2018, 12:32:05 pm
Holy smokes! This is going to be a fantastic build Iain!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on February 07, 2018, 11:27:28 pm
Thanks guys.

Mad - do you have any pics of the areas you have marked up for a bit of a heads up??

No i haven't but i will take some for you and post them up here once i get back from holidays next week
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on February 08, 2018, 02:24:56 am
Thanks Mad - much appreciated. ;)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on February 09, 2018, 05:39:10 am
Since your going to be using a bunch of .25 FO on this one Iain..... you might be interested in some bundled strands I came across....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323062391917?ul_noapp=true

The diameter of the full cable isn't stated, so you'd have to ask about that in order to plan for the proper illuminater. 

Check ya later....

Wolf
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on February 09, 2018, 02:58:55 pm
Cheers Im.

But just had a trial drill and there is no way I could afford the amount of 0.25 drill bits needed so 0.5mm it is.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 21, 2018, 08:19:12 am
Any updates, Iain?

Would love to see what you're doing with this monster!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on February 22, 2018, 02:26:52 am
Nothing yet Steve.

I have been waiting on respirator to arrive so I can safely work with the resin. Just finished a Zvezda ISD for a friend and plan on starting the big girl in earnest in a couple of weeks.

Stay Tuned. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on February 23, 2018, 06:34:05 pm
can't wait for a chance at the Zvezda or Revell Star Destroyer.  I really love the detail in that big kit.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 04, 2018, 04:02:14 am
Back again with a wee update.

I have concentrated on the engine section and have used 5mm flat top leds for the 13 engines. Just had to be careful drilling out the engines as getting spares would take time.

I gave the lights the obligatory 24hr burn out test and they all passed.

(https://i.imgur.com/szLOtuB.jpg)

Once that once done I had to decide on what colour the engines would go and from left to right we have black metal, dark aluminium and plain black.

(https://i.imgur.com/mLosfVA.jpg)

I went with the black metallic and am quite happy with that choice. The engines were given a light dusting of Alclad Jet Exhaust as this thing is supposed to be 8 miles long and those engines would be putting out a lot of heat and energy. The paint was allowed to dry overnight and then the leds where installed.

(https://i.imgur.com/hBPSWZ1.jpg)

The overall colour of this kit will be Intermediate Blue and I have gone with the Vallejo option with that as I like using their paints. Another colour used will also be Blue Gray for the highlights and some preshading.

Once the engine deck was given a black undercoat it was onto the painting proper. The next pic shows the Blue Gray used to highlight and preshade the rear engine deck.

(https://i.imgur.com/umNwpLs.jpg)

And once that was dry it was time for the Intermediate Blue.

(https://i.imgur.com/2Dwx3b0.jpg)

Once that was done the part was given a dullcote to protect the paint and then it was time to start putting on the engines. Prior to all this I had drilled out on the kit part where the engines would go and used a 5mm drill bit to drill down through the inside of the kit and into the hole drilled into the mounting point so that the wiring could be passed through.

(https://i.imgur.com/yK4roWY.jpg)

Once I had checked all was well I applied some hot glue to tie down the wiring and to keep evrything neat and tidy.

(https://i.imgur.com/icsbSjT.jpg)

All the engines where attached without any major problems and it was then time to light the engines up to see how we where doing.

(https://i.imgur.com/mKCeObC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hT0Y2Vi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ATgvApL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5hY69Fo.jpg)

Still got a long way to go with this one but I hope you like what you see so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 05, 2018, 01:04:15 am
Looks Great Iain. The colours work nicely and the exhausts are beautiful. At least you got them lit! I haven't had a chance to photograph the areas I marked out for grinding away due to other commitments but I'll try get them done if you are still interested in them over the next few days
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 05, 2018, 02:35:11 am
Thanks Mad.

Those pics would be so helpful whenever you get the time.

Thanks
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 09, 2018, 12:19:31 am
Hi Iain

I found some time this afternoon to take some pictures of the areas where I am going to be cutting, drilling and sanding back.
The area on the lower back end are the areas to be drilled or use a rotary cutter on it to remove it

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/40660618232_e711ded8a3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24X3icW)

This will need to be drilled/cut

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/38892954920_958a34bccd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22fQyuh)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4778/40703352591_3b05754666_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/251PjDe)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4775/40660543162_2b97d3fa94_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24X2UTC)

The lower side here needs to be sanded back.  The circles are where its thin enough that the light filters through so no drilling there

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4790/40703310291_3052845d22_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/251P74V)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4796/40660501782_2ed072267b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24X2GAb)

Hope that is of some help to you? I dare say you probably had a similar idea. Looking forward to your next update
I really love the colours you've used. They really do look the part

Si
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 09, 2018, 04:16:09 am
Thanks Mad!

That's very much appreciated and will save a lot of work in the near future to be sure. Just waiting on the first batch of FO strands to arrive and I plan on having the lower hull/engines finished this weekend and then the mammoth task of the upper hull and side trenches will begin. Just got to figure out what I am going to do with the metal strips along the sides of the upper hull. My plan at the mo is to remove about 99.9% of them but leave about 5mm at either end and in the middle so the side trenches and lower hull have something to attach to but like I said it's only an idea at this point - that part of the build is a long way off yet.

The beers are on me. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 09, 2018, 04:26:43 am
From what I can see, those walls aren't meant to be up against the strips. I'm going to leave mine in and try to bundle the FO around them. The side walls should sit out enough from those strips to get the fibers around the front and back ends if the fibers are long enough.  I have seen a guy take the metal strip out but I personally don't think you need to and it would weaken the top half too much and likely sag if removed.
You'll get there before me so I'll be taking notes from you too :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 09, 2018, 11:05:01 am
Hi Mad.

Yeah - I see what you mean regarding those strips so need another plan.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on March 09, 2018, 02:55:36 pm
I like the colors you're using too Iain....  A bit darker than most would go for but it looks excellent.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on March 10, 2018, 07:45:20 pm
this is one aggressive project.  love the work so far!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 11, 2018, 05:08:52 am
Thanks guys.

Got some more work done on the big girl and the underside (so far as painting is done and dusted). Once the Grey primer was first applied and allowed to cure it was on with the black primer.

Actually that highlighted an annoying problem which will only get worse. In other words the physical size of this model is causing problems in that my spray booth would be better suited if it was twice the size as can be seen in the next picture with about 8" of the part sticking out.

(https://i.imgur.com/vfjyb25.jpg)

I just had to quarter up that part and move it around as each quarter got painted. It will get worse as I said as the upper hull is one giant piece about 3ft long so that's gone to be a real challenge to paint.

I had a head scratching 5mins trying to figure out which of the two blues I am using was which so once that was sorted I thought I should label them to avoid any future confusion. I will just add to the bottles as the build progresses. I never get rid of any paint until the model is finished and on display and I usually (not always. ) take a note of the colours and ther ratio they where mixed in.

(https://i.imgur.com/y4QbmuJ.jpg)

The first section to get painted was the city sprawl structure in the middle of the part and once again areas where pre-shaded in the Grey Blue and then Intermdeiate Blue was used to paint the rest of the area and fill in the spaces by blending edges of the two blues together.

(https://i.imgur.com/AittaWX.jpg)

Once that was dry the area was masked off so that it will remain darker than the rest of the lower hull when I start paintng the rest of the hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/z3h1N2t.jpg)

I used the same technique I had used for last years auction build in that a criss cross pattern was applied all over the hull using the edge of a folded over post-it to get a straight edge and this would simulate individual plates once we got to painting the whole area (think that kinda made sense!!).

(https://i.imgur.com/kr31kK6.jpg)

Once that was done the rest of the hull was painted in Intermediate Blue taking care not to cover up the pattern previusly applied to the hul. There is a distinct difference in light/dark between the hull and the city scape but quite subtle and not so black to white. The picture does'nt real show it TBH but please trust me on this one. I will keep trying to take a picture that shows the difference I am on about.

And last but not least a quick mock up to show the two lower hull pieces together to show where we are so far on this build. I will put all the FO strands in place first and get the wooden mounting block in place first before permanently attaching the two pieces together.

(https://i.imgur.com/CF2WbRv.jpg)

I hope you like what you see folks.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 11, 2018, 07:43:41 am
that looks seriously amazing! I love that colour.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Decoman on March 12, 2018, 10:44:23 am
I wonder, is percahnce this super star destroyer of the same scale compared to the tiny star destroyer model made by Bandai?
Looking at an image comparison of the two, and looking at the photo showing the super star destroyer on the table above, I imagine them to be of the same scale, or close.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 12, 2018, 03:08:39 pm
Hi Decoman

The Bandai Star Destroyer is slightly smaller than the kit provided one but the detail is far superior.

Moving right along.

Two days later and we have about 80% of the lower hull FO's installed.

(https://i.imgur.com/rdSvaWd.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/UTCUyqm.jpg?1)

I should have this section finished off by the end of the week and then I can get the fibers trimmed and any necessary (there will be) touch up work attended to.

(https://i.imgur.com/QDIsILU.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/nXsyBVI.jpg)

Once that is done we can get the lower hull sections attached together and then the marathon that will be the upper hull and side trenches can begin.

Thanks for following this thread folks.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 13, 2018, 07:59:26 am
I have a couple of questions for you:
How thick is the resin? Was it easy to drill through?
How are you going to mount this? Center pole or side mounted? I'd like to do side mounted but I don't have anything strong enough to support it
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 13, 2018, 10:35:28 am
Hi Mad.

In places the resin is pretty well paper thin so you have to be careful. Whilst in others in can be very thick. This gives be a bit of extra work but I use a 0.5mm drill bit first as I literally have hundreds of them and once the hole is drilled I use a 0.55mm drill to open it up slightly if I have any problems trying to thread the FO strand through.

As for mounting I have a 15mm carbon fiber rod ready for when that nit comes and you can see the block I have epoxied into place in some of the pics. I won't close up the model until I am happy it is sitting dead straight and level on that pole so if I have to I can cut that block out with a Dremel and start again. It took the better part of an hour to get that block where it is just now.

Back to the resin being thin for a bit as along the edges it is very prone to breaking just because it so thin and I have had to repair it three times with some appropriate thickness plasti-card.

I hope this all helps.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 14, 2018, 07:23:42 am
Iain, you, Sir, are the fiber optic King!

I have a Republic StarDestroyer in my stash that I will probably follow your examples and on which I will use FO.

Keep it coming!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 17, 2018, 01:33:26 pm
Thanks Steve.

Moving right along with this build.

I have got all the FO strands trimmed and the inevitable touch up work attended to. Going to be finding bits of FO lying around for weeks to come.

(https://i.imgur.com/P8t5Aqw.jpg)

Took forever and a day to trim the strands back and especially so when you have a Chameleon sitting on your shoulder watching your every move (Ziggy just loves sitting there watching the world go by!).

For a wee taster here's the lower hull just held up to a light to show that light coming through the strands.

(https://i.imgur.com/eauRHTS.jpg)

I thought I was going to have to leave it there but the 5mm diffused blue leds arrived and once I got them wired up to a resistor and got the heatshrink into place I left them alone for the usual burn out test which they all passed.

(https://i.imgur.com/cq7ys8V.jpg)

Those leds have been attached to their respective FO bundles and I am just waiting (will take 24hrs) for the Tulip paint to dry so the ends are light blocked but before I did that here's a wee look at how the lower hull looks like lit up.

(https://i.imgur.com/a17hcT1.jpg)

So far, so good on this build and I hope you like what you see.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on March 17, 2018, 01:42:34 pm
Yiker Diker Bikers!!!  That's a lot of FO!!!

How was drilling all those .5mm holes in resin compared to drilling in styrene?

Wolf
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 17, 2018, 03:05:02 pm
Thanks Wolf.

No real difference of note in drilling resin apart from having an appropriate respirator to deal with the dust.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 18, 2018, 06:28:00 am
Whoa, Dude! That looks awesome!!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on March 18, 2018, 06:42:14 pm
Thanks Wolf.

No real difference of note in drilling resin apart from having an appropriate respirator to deal with the dust.

Uh oh, I just exhale while drilling to move the dust away.  Probably not the best idea.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: pakratt840 on March 18, 2018, 09:29:29 pm
Thanks Wolf.

No real difference of note in drilling resin apart from having an appropriate respirator to deal with the dust.

Uh oh, I just exhale while drilling to move the dust away.  Probably not the best idea.

Just don't inhale again. That's the key.😰
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 19, 2018, 03:19:51 pm
Howdy again.

Got some more work done on the big girl and a milestone has been reached in that bar a couple of spots that need some touch up work the lower hull/engines are completed.

I had originally planned to use just one 10mm diffused led to light up all the lower windows but I cut some of the fibers too short so at first I used another two 5mm diffused blue leds to light up the windows.

(https://i.imgur.com/m9VAhe3.jpg)

But I quickly realised that there was just too many fibers to put into the ends of the two 6mm brass tubes that had been cut so I added a third 5mm diffused blue led and that was that problem sorted.

(https://i.imgur.com/RUqyrSE.jpg)

Once that was done it was time to permanently attach the engine deck which was a chore in itself as the engine section is heavy and it was really fiddly trying to hold it in place with one hand and hit the CA glue with a kicker with the other but we got there in the end. Once I was happy that everything was where it should be a generous amount of 5min epoxy was applied along the join and left to cure properly.

When I checked the lighting again I noted that there was some leakage along that big join so that area was "drowned" in Tulip fabric paint and left to dry overnight and no more light leaks.

(https://i.imgur.com/A4nI63d.jpg)

Another thing I added was a thin block of wood on top of the main block for the mounting pole as I saw that the rod would come right through into the model which wasn't very secure for such a big and heavy kit. When the time come to affix the rod in place it will be a more solid and secure mounted pole. I just let the epoxy cure with a bottle on top to hold it down as the epoxy did its job.

(https://i.imgur.com/xmopZZF.jpg)

As I have mentioned before much of this build has been overseen by my Veiled Chameleon Ziggy who has spent much of the past week perched on my shoulder watching what I was doing.

(https://i.imgur.com/LgVBD13.jpg)

One thing I am learning about this kit is that the resin is very thin (1bout 1mm or thereabouts) and quite brittle and I knocked a piece off when attaching the engines. A few choice expletives where uttered but the area was easily fixed with some plasti-card and viola it was sorted. An hour spent with varous grades of emery paper and the fix was blended into the model.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ozy3U62.jpg)

Some Mr Surfacer 1000 was aplied to the area prior to priming and we where good to go. I am just waiting on a new filter for my spray booth to arrive and that area will be painted up to match the rest of the hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/d30knmH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QxLzf6X.jpg)

Last but by no means least I have the model on a temporary mounting pole so that it can be rotated easily and the touch up work can go ahead. Just thought I would light her up first.

(https://i.imgur.com/jOcudEe.jpg)

I have shot a short wee video to let you see how she's looking so far. And before I get to that I am going to have to have some serious head scratchibg in the near future as this model is seriously "ass" heavy so instead of a square display base similar to what "Our Lady" had this one will have to be more rectangular to balance the weight better. I am still (at this time) going to mirror that base but that part of the adventure is a long way off.

Anyhoo! On with the video and I hope you like "The Empress" so far.

Thanks for all the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl63KqJGOYI
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Decoman on March 22, 2018, 12:49:18 am
This is looking very nice! :) Hoping to see some nice photos of this one when the model is finished.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 22, 2018, 04:34:26 am
Those engines look fantastic Iain! Nice fix on the edged BTW. You wouldn't know it had happened to look at it now
I'm very interested on how you go about doing the top section though. For me, that will be the most challenging bit and I'm keen to see how you tackle it and the results you get with it.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on March 24, 2018, 02:04:05 pm
This is looking fantastic Iain....

I was surprised to read that you're dealing with such thin material in areas though. It's been quite a while since I unwrapped the kit and checked it out again, but as I recall the parts were very thick (3mm?) last time I looked it over. Is this the Korbanth (Randy Johnson) kit you're working on?

Wolf
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 24, 2018, 03:04:45 pm
Hi Wolf.

It is indeed the Korbanth kit I have and apparently it is a new moulding from Randy. The thinness of the resin in parts is not really an issue tbh as it's easily overcome.

And now for a quick wee update.

I am debating how to light up the side trenches when it comes to that and I can either go full on Fiber Optic or use led tape. I will need to loosely put the upper hull together to see what kind of space we'll have on the inside and there are two metal strips to provide structural integrity (going a bit Star Trekkie there) which will prove problematic if I use FO strands. I have wired up the strips and four 10mm leds and will leave them on for the usual 24hrs and then we'll see which method will be the best. This is only for the side trenches as the city sprawl on the upper hull will be lit up using FO's.

(https://i.imgur.com/RIhAmdz.jpg)

Ziggy decided he was bored sitting on my shoulder at this point and decided to give the model a close up look.

(https://i.imgur.com/DZ4SEyu.jpg)

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 25, 2018, 09:57:14 am
Got another wee update for y'all.

More pics of blue glowy things and a bit of a head scratcher at the end.

For the side trenches I have decided to use the led tape and the rest of the model will be FO's. I found some double density blue tape  and had that wired up overnight to see if we had any burn outs and I'm pleased to say we had none.

The double density tape is at the top.

(https://i.imgur.com/hBADAoI.jpg)

Just go to make my mind up what type to use at this point.

With about 95% of each side trench being lit up via tape I though it would be wise to see if there was any discernible differences in the light intensity (think that made some sort of sense) between the bulbs and the tape.

This one is a fiber lit by and led.

(https://i.imgur.com/xNbsOPG.jpg)

And this is one lit up by tape.

(https://i.imgur.com/NmaiSL7.jpg)

In person there is little to no difference in the light intensity as the camera just washes out but I will try later on to get a better picture of what I am trying to show.

Moving right along I have been looking at the upper half of the model and some major surgery will be required as a lot of the resin will have to be drilled out and cut away before the city scape can be added so all the FO strands can be plugged in to a led.

The areas to be cut away are highlighted (rather haphazardly I have to admit) in a marker pen and thanks to Madhatter for that idea and the pics you shared.

(https://i.imgur.com/kreQHhp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PSnj19P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kqBdO38.jpg)

Hence the reason for getting that respirator a couple of weeks ago as that part of the build will be messy.

Now! onto a real headscratcher of a problem and that entails the last 2 inches or so of the side trenches at the rear of the model. I did'nt notice this until I was mucking about with all the parts today and doing some dry fitting.

This pic is where the engine deck is attached to the lower hull and that area is in places about 2mm thick and almost paper thing.

(https://i.imgur.com/QxLzf6X.jpg)

And this is it from the rear and as you can see there is little to nothing to work with there so I can't see (at this time) how I am going to get ang lighting in there for the windows.

(https://i.imgur.com/2D4X1Yp.jpg)

I had the same problem with a couple of areas of last years Star Destroyer build but the plastic was much more forgiving than resin so I am going to have to figure something out. It won't be lit as extensivelly as the rest of the ship but I do want to get something in there or there will be a "dead" area at the back side of each trench which will really annoy me. One plan is to use FO but have the strands attached to a 5mm led and to cut away some of the backside of each trench and feed the fibers up through a small trench I can dremel into those flat areas to free up some room so some 5mm leds on their 24hr test cycle.

(https://i.imgur.com/tykc2Gl.jpg)

Once the hulss are attached you won't see any wires or fibers flapping about but until I actually try it I won't know for sure.

Tune in next time for even more pictures of blue glowy things.

Thanks for coming along.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: starsiegeplayer on March 25, 2018, 10:14:39 am
Looking good!

And I like Ziggy
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 25, 2018, 11:05:11 am
Looking good!And I like Ziggy

Cheers mate but the big Z can be a pain at times but mostly he just sits on my shoulder watching.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 26, 2018, 10:01:54 am
Guess who?

Yep! It's moi again with another wee update and I know you will all be totally gutted to know this but there are no pictures of blue glowy things but I can dif one up if you so desire!

Anyhoo! I have got the lower hull/engine section up in the loft out of the way and I won't be seeing that bit for at least a month as it is time to start on the side trenches at all those little holes (drinks cabinet on standby!)

(https://i.imgur.com/GszbbwT.jpg)

Instead of pictures of blue glowy things here is a picture of a teensy-weensy little hole. This is the first in about 1000, so that little hole is pretty significant as it shows the beginning of my slide into total dribbling insanity and a few blisters along the way that this model will cause me.

(https://i.imgur.com/wYtW26K.jpg)

I have been thinking about the last couple of inches of those side trenches and to get some lights in there I am going to Dremel out the areas marked by pen. Going to have to be careful that I don't go through the resin but I went and got four new Dremel bits that will help gettting those areas cleaned out and will also be used when it comes to cutting away the areas on the main hull prior to lighting.

(https://i.imgur.com/SCfi6JL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwA1hhu.jpg)

That's it for this update but rest assured pictures of blue glowy things will return.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on March 26, 2018, 12:32:39 pm
Looking good, Iain!

Watch out for those new burs; they can reduce plastic really quickly if you are not careful.

Keep going!

Till the return of the blue glowy thingies!!  ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 26, 2018, 12:53:54 pm
Will do Steve!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2018, 06:41:31 am
with those side walls, what end have you blacked out? Fore or aft? And why? Sorry for the questions
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 27, 2018, 01:24:19 pm
No need to apologise Mad!

The rear 4 inches of the side trenches will be "carefully" hollowed out to free up some space for the fo strands. The reason being is that there is no room in the section the walls will eventually be attached to at the engine section as there is a blank section just shorter than 4 inches on either side and those areas are about 4-5mm thick so no room to play with there hence the hollowing out of the side walls in those areas.

I hope that is what you are after mate.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on March 27, 2018, 11:01:08 pm
thanks mate - that is what I thought the reason would be.
The good news is if that by chance something does go wrong with the drilling, the walls are direct copies of the Revell Venator walls joined together and I just happen to have an unbuilt kit in the stash, so if need be, I can make a copy of it and you can just replace the section.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 28, 2018, 06:31:56 am
Thanks Mad!

Hopefully I won't have to make use of your offer but nice to know the option is there if I screw it up. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on March 30, 2018, 02:44:40 am
Back again!

Been thinking (it does happen now and again and no it did'nt hurt "much") about the 2k+ holes this kit is going to have and was there going to be an easier way of doing it that does'nt involve an insanity plea by November.

And the short answer is a resounding "no". I thought about a Dremel which is too fast and bulky and even with a flexi-shaft attached it won't allow for a precise enough control over a 0.5mm drill bit and the slighest error going "off axis" will snap the bit - so a Dremel is out.

Thought about a Tamiya handy drill but I can't find a collet for it that will accept the aforementioned 0.5mm drill bits but I think I'll buy one anyway as it will come in handy for other projects once I am let out into the public domain again.

So! the best and only option (at this time) is the olde' archimedes drill and a pin vise.

(https://i.imgur.com/qYzRyO0.jpg)

The two of them have served me well in this build but as I said I was looking for a non-sanity-stretching option but the hands on approach is going to be the one for this years auction build. I am definately never going to build another Star Destroyer!

Anyhoo! Moaning aside I have started work on the side trench windows and the lenght of the pieces in question posed a problem as I work at one end and the other end is flapping about and generally being very annoying so I got some thin card and taped that to the bench so the drill bits would'nt ruin my cutting mats too much and taped the side trench on top of that. I'll move the trench along as each section is completed. It's not a perfect solution but it does allow a lot more control of the resin pieces as they can be quite delicate.

(https://i.imgur.com/OoPfe9V.jpg)

An hour later and here's where we are. The area in the next pic is about an inch and a quarter long so a long, long way to go yet.

(https://i.imgur.com/wfqPkQM.jpg)

I hope you like what you see so far folks.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on April 01, 2018, 11:37:42 am
Iain.....   you need a 24 spindle drill press.....  fast!

:b
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 03, 2018, 12:26:58 pm
Guess who?

Back again with another wee update for you all on this years auction build.

Work has been completed on the side trenches (thanks god sez me as drilling all those wee holes didn't do wonders for what's left of my diminishing sanity!).

First of all was the black primer. I gave each part a couple of coats to help get rid of any possible light leakage when the time comes to start threading those fibers. Once the base coats were applied each part was left to dry on it's own.

(https://i.imgur.com/NdfXCTx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EfErGfG.jpg)

Some people use heat guns to aid in drying but TBH I am not a fan of that method and I just let the parts air dry and leave them overnight if that's required.
Once they where dry it was out with the Grey Blue again and then the Intermediate Blue to add some highlights to the raised areas.

(https://i.imgur.com/3ZTTTPt.jpg)

Bit of a crap picture TBH but I was trying to get the whole lengths of the parts in.

Once again the parts were left to dry for a couple of hours and then the dull cote was applied (a couple of coats) and that was left to dry overnight.

(https://i.imgur.com/5XNReLi.jpg)

And that's about it for this update apart from when I get home from work today a rather large and heavy box was waiting for me which was the fiber optic cable I had ordered (6000mtrs/3.7miles) so I can get cracking on with the build at the weekend. Thanks Warren for putting me onto that seller for the fo.

(https://i.imgur.com/a1mq4t2.jpg)

There we have it.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 04, 2018, 07:35:45 am
That is ALOT, and but "ALOT" I mean a ship-load of FO!!!

Iain, you may be the undisputed FO King of this website!

Keep going!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: greg on April 05, 2018, 05:04:29 pm
Imgur is blocked at work, which is where I usually peruse these forums. So although I've followed this thread, this is the first time seeing the pictures. This looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 06, 2018, 02:27:39 am
Thanks guys.

Got a long way to go yet but we're getting there. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 07, 2018, 11:29:12 am
Honey I'm Home!

Back again and we have the "welcome" return of the blue glowy things.

I have started work on the side trenches which has basically entailed redrilling about 2000 little holes that have been filled with some paint which is bit of a pain in the "You Know Where" but the end result will be worth it.

First up where the two areas that are next to the engine deck and I have said previously there is just not enough room to get a ton of lights in there but I decided on a minimum of 10.

(https://i.imgur.com/bYOuFTV.jpg)

Once the epoxy was dried I wanted to flatten down the fibers a bit so the fit when it comes to gluing those parts to the main hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/oANwjn0.jpg)

I left the epoxy overnight and then it was time to start some serious fiber work. About 90% of the side trenches will be lit by led tape but the front 2 1/2 inches will be lit by diffused leds as the led tape won't go that far so a couple of hours later and several bottles of beer we have this.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ydzqvg5.jpg)

The masking tape was applied round the edges as I needed to apply some epoxy to those fibers to lock them into place.

Once the glue was dried I had a wee look to see what we have so far with regards to those windows. 100 down several thousand to go.

(https://i.imgur.com/44ifKQ9.jpg)

I hope you like what you see so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: pakratt840 on April 07, 2018, 10:07:53 pm
Hi Iain. Great work on the SSD. You mentioned a collet for a Tamiya Handy Drill that would take a 0.5mm bit. I bought this off of Amazon US and it was inexpensive since I ordered other stuff to get the free shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000DD2N3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The shocker was when I looked it up on Amazon.co.uk. Holey Moley!! That's at least 6 times what Amazon wants for it in the US. Anyway, for information's sake,

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gyros-45-01801-Adaptor-039-Inch-Capacity/dp/B0000DD2N3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523156050&sr=8-1&keywords=Gyros+45-01801+Mini+Adaptor+Chuck%2C+0-Inch+to+039-Inch+Capacity+%28For+Dremel+Type+Tools%29

It does fit the Handy Drill's large static collet (barely) and it does work as advertised.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 08, 2018, 03:26:21 am
Yikes Dan!

That's a helluva mark up in cost for a small collet.

I did end up using my Dremel for the holes as I had forgotten I had bought a suitably sized collet for it ages ago and "discovered" it when I was going to use a sanding disc. Used it on the slowest speed and it worked a charm. Thank god it did as doing all those wee holes (1500 and counting) by hand would have made me fruit loopy.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 08, 2018, 12:24:27 pm
Change of plan!

After getting one side trench started I did a dry run against the hull pieces and therein rose a wee problem.

At the front of the ship space is seriously limited and one side (the section I completed) was too much for that space so a bit of head scratching was begun after some "mild" expletives where uttered and eternal damnation was promised against the modelling gods.

So the FO strands that where already installed where cut off and smoothed down a bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/1jz1hUZ.jpg)

And shown against a light source once the fibers were trimmed and re-glued.

(https://i.imgur.com/zgYGjwC.jpg)

I will order up a short length of double density blue led tape and use that to light up that front section. I just have to glue a short piece of styrene in the model to attach the extra led tape and that will be job done. I will still light up the last two inches with fo strands as planned.

Thanks for watching.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: jwood314 on April 08, 2018, 08:50:54 pm
Loving the build.  This is on my list to build before I croak!

Cheers,
James
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 09, 2018, 08:43:51 am
Iain, I love your persistence with drilling out all those windows and lights!

Lovin the build!

Keep at it!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 09, 2018, 10:33:55 am
Thanks guys.

Just doing a section at a time (say 12 inches), taking a break for a day or two and then wash, rinse & repeat.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 15, 2018, 02:42:46 am
One down and one to go.

After (lord knows how long TBH) a while, shall we say I have finished the first of the side trenches and after I give my eyes a rest I will crack on with the other side. The reason it has taken so long to get this far is that 99.99999% of the pre-drilled holes have had to be re-drilled as I went along as paint had gotten into them which was a total pain but we got there with the help of the olde' pin vice.

Starting off I just cut up the FO reel into 1cm strands in bunches of about 100 and went from there.

(https://i.imgur.com/xGqHXke.jpg)

Once that was done one end of thepiece was dipped in canopy glue and threaded through the holes in the side trench in a cycle of wash, rinse & repeat until we finished last night. The trench was left over night to allow time for the glue to cure and we are leftt with a piece of resin looking like a hedgehog having a bad hair day.

(https://i.imgur.com/ycopW1x.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u81uSAc.jpg)

When it comes to attaching the trenches to the main body I will trim off the ends of the strands with some nail clippers and voila - sorted.

There we have it for this update so tune in next time for more fun, adventure, high-jinks and so forth.

I hope you all like the build so far.

ps:- Note to self - no more Star Destroyers.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: starsiegeplayer on April 15, 2018, 03:03:41 pm
That is a LOT of fiber optics!

Thanks - it does get mind numbingly boring/repetitive at times but once you get on a roll time just flies by. Still got the upper city sprawl to tackle so a few thousand wee holes to go. As long as she raises a tidy sum at auction night I'll be happy. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on April 17, 2018, 02:31:44 am
Looks good Iain. Interesting idea with the FO's up front - I had wondered about the fit there and you've proved me right, although I hadn't come up with a solution.
Your using LED strips right? I found ones online that are Ice Blue which would be more in keeping with the filming model and look great and not so blue (if you get what I mean)
I'm interested in this approach to see how well it works. Although the front end was lit up white - not blue (who knows why but looking at images taken straight form the movie, they are white up front and blue everywhere else). Are you going to go down that route or stay with blue?
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 17, 2018, 02:41:43 am
Thanks Mad.

I am just going to stay with the blue with the odd red highlight along the side trenches which I had never noticed before but there is a great section on the SSD on the Star Wars blue ray box set.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on April 17, 2018, 04:53:20 am
Dang, I wish I had a Blu Ray player so I could get that set. I am using pics of the filming model from Modeller Magic: http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=1781 although I'm sure you would have already seen those.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 23, 2018, 03:01:16 am
Honey! I'm home.

Been awhile since the last update but work has been going on as per usual and at last I have actually got something to show you all although I am sure that you are totally gutted there hasn't been endless pictures of wee holes being drilled. 

I can tell you that  :whistle: the blue glowy things have returned.

Anyhoo! better get on with the show I suppose.

The lower hull has finally be joined up with the two side trenches (I had to take a break from drilling holes as I started to loose my tenuous grip on my sanity but only about 4000 to go). Both side trenches were touched up first and left to dry overnight.

(https://i.imgur.com/NryrLLB.jpg)

The next day it was time to attach the trenches to the rest of the model. Due to the size of the two pieces I just glued it down in sections of about 3 inches before moving on to the next bit until we got to the end and were done.

All that is left to do is to trim back all the ends of the fibers before the upper hull is attached but I will leave that bit until later on as I want to make a start on the upper hull and the "city" sprawl.

(https://i.imgur.com/m9Q3n9u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IxMCIaH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L7RtbCZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/M2AUOhU.jpg)

Prior to gluing the trenches on I did a quick check that the last two inches of both were clear of any obstructions as these areas will be lit by a 5mm diffused blue led due to the very limited space. The lights were again checked once the trenches were attached.

(https://i.imgur.com/qq5BSND.jpg)

This morning I had another check for any light leaks along the lower join and found only three so some fabric paint was applied to take care of them.

And now the moment you have all being waiting for :- "The Return of the Blue Glowy Things".

(https://i.imgur.com/9f5PMiF.jpg)

I just laid some blue led tape along the inside of the trenches to see what she will look like when all done and dusted. Going a bit backwards regarding the led tape as it will be attached to the internal supports that run along the inside of the upper hull but again that part of the build is away down the line.

So! I hope you all like where we are with "The Empress" and thanks for all the likes, pm's and comments and I'll be back soon.

Ps:- Thanks Mad - I had never seen those pictures before but they have been added to the library.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on April 25, 2018, 02:26:21 pm
You're making very good progress on this Iain.....   very persistent fellow aren't you!!

In case you are interested and missed it, here's a thread of a SSD build over at RPF.

https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=212957&page=2
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on April 26, 2018, 07:47:49 am
uhm....wow...

Just WOW!  ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on April 28, 2018, 02:31:32 am
Thanks Steve/Wolf.

I have been dipping in and out of the builds over on the RPF forum and I have found them to be extremely useful.

Anyhoo! On with this wee update.

Started work on the upper hull once I made sure that the completed lower hull/engines were safely stored up in the loft. All I have done is just give the model section a good scrub in hot (not too hot) soapy water in the bath (much to Eleanor's annoyance) to get rid of any lingering mold release agent and left it to drip dry for an hour or so.

(https://i.imgur.com/rnBYZge.jpg)

Then the head scratching began as with such a big model I have found it best to tackle it in sections but as the upper hull is just one large piece, which I will measure at some point, that "sections approach" kinda goes out the window. So! once again an auction build comes down to me staring at it and just figuring out where to start and how to finish it. I come up with ideas as to do something with a model and sometimes that idea works or it doesn't so the planning starts all over again. This doesn't really bother me TBH just as long as the completed model looks the business and someone wants to bid for her and put some cash in the charity pot.

Later on today I will start on removing all the excess resin from the areas I marked out awhile back so that fiber optic can be threaded through. At this point I am going with the fo strands hooked up to individual leds approach to light up the upper hull but that may change down the line as like I have said previously although this kit is big at 38" long there is diddly-squat space inside her so some lateral thinking regarding the leds will be required.

(https://i.imgur.com/aHb5I9p.jpg)

One thing I do plan on getting done today is to cut grooves into the two metal supports on the inside of the upper hull. I will place led tape along those metal pieces and the grooves will allow the wiring to be run to the inside so I don't have tons of wiring all over the place. I will cut the grooves so that a series of six leds on the tape can be set on the metal along the lengths (did that make sense???).

(https://i.imgur.com/nudvro7.jpg)

There we have it for now and I hope you are enjoying this build as much as I am.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on April 28, 2018, 03:04:27 am
Geez - your really motoring along with this one! Very interesting to see how your going about this and I've picked up some good pointers about the sidewalls for when I get to mine
Keep the pics coming and don't be shy about how many you post  ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on April 28, 2018, 09:35:23 am
Iain, I find the use of FO stubs intriguing and scary!  Is the fit of the hull sections really that tight that you can successfully light block the join?  If SDs have a lot of lights, the SSD has uber amounts of lights...I don't envy all that work but the result is looking awesome.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 05, 2018, 02:55:52 am
Thanks again guys.

Scott - the fit is really tight once the hulls will be joined. Like I said the kit is a real big one but if you look at it from the front and side it is really quite flat in appearance.

But here we go after some time off this build due to life, the universe and everything getting in the way of getting on with the build for you all.

Anyhoo! that's enough of my woes let's get on with the update shall we?

I have been dry fitting the detail parts for the upper hull to get a picture of where everything goes and trying to forsee any possible problems and it's just as well I did as some a couple of the areas I had marked out to be removed where just a wee bit too large and would have left some unsightly (but easily fixable) gaps so I just made some more pen marks and that was that.

The accent pieces in the following pics are just sitting loosely in place.

(https://i.imgur.com/jCupa2Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MN2we5V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YgUnVR9.jpg)

I for one can't wait to see my girl finished up as I think she will blow the other auction builds away (I hope so anyway!). One little niggle will be getting some lights into the bridge module as seen on the third picture above. It is just under 1inch across so lighting it up like last years build is out of the question but I reckon I can get about 10 individual fibers in there but probably not much more as there just isn't enough room. The bridge will have to be carefully hollowed out and once all the fibers are in place the underside will have to be rebuilt/scratch built up again but that can be easily achieved with this plasticard. Also some of the larger accent pieces are totally lacking any type of detail on their insides so I plan on using some of the detail pieces from one of the two big
Zvezda/Revell Star Destroyers I have to pimp those pieces up a bit and I'll order up some replacements from the makers.

So! There we have it for this short update and I would love to hear what you have to say about the build so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 07, 2018, 08:01:41 am
Dude! How do you keep your sanity?!

This is awesome! Keep diving deeper into the abyss! :)

Steve

Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on May 07, 2018, 09:05:54 am
looks great Iain! Am loving this a lot and it's a great insight for me on how I will do mine.
I'm going to ditch the poor bridge in favour of the smaller (just) but better detailed bridge from one of those pocket Bandai SD kits. It'll work nicely I think
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 07, 2018, 11:06:07 am
Thanks guys.

Mad - That is an amazingly brilliant idea and I am so glad I thought of it. Will need to dig the one I have "somewhere" and have a wee look at it.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 08, 2018, 12:37:21 pm
Back again.

Got some good progress made on "The Empress" as The first pieces of the city sprawl on the upper hull got hollowed out and put into place.

(https://i.imgur.com/DtM5kCv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/faGDQcU.jpg)

And after a dusty (thank god for that respirator) couple of hours with the Dremel.

(https://i.imgur.com/IbIN0FM.jpg)

And once a couple of hundred FO strands where threaded through the pre-drilled holes.

(https://i.imgur.com/OrzXQHC.jpg)

After the hassles of having to redrill all the holes in the side trenches I have decided to have all the strands in place before we get to the primer and then painting stage and TBH some of the wee nooks and crannies need this done before gluing the piece into place.

Also been looking ahead and the bridge has been bugging me but Madhatter had a brilliant idea which I hope he doesn't mind me pinching. I have the Bandai "baby" Star Destroyer and as can be seen in the following pic there is little to no difference in size and also the Banda conning tower neck can be easily adapted for the big girl. The kit supplied bridge is in the middle. Thanks again Mad for that idea for the bridge.

(https://i.imgur.com/w65dKWP.jpg)

Just a quick wee update for this time around. I am just waiting on the sanding drums for my Dremel to arrive and we can get crackin' with the rest of the build.

As always I appreciate any comments you have and I hope you like what you see.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on May 09, 2018, 05:16:58 am
your welcome  ;D Don't forget to take pics of the holes and cuts you make as I want to see how well they all work out - good or bad
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 13, 2018, 05:47:41 am
Back again for your weekly Sunday update.

The sanding drums arrived and I was able to get into the hollowed out areas in the main superstructure and widen them up,

(https://i.imgur.com/bZzrlkq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FcFIeZj.jpg)

Once I was happy with that it was time to start on some of the detail pieces.

(https://i.imgur.com/QqcHOxz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MfVqmLx.jpg)

A few hours later the holes were drilled and my sanity slipped away a bit further. Then I spent a happy couple of hours cutting lengths of FO to be threaded through all the wee holes. I have cut the lengths way too long but that gives me a lot of leeway when it comes to trimming them all and one led can be used to light up more FO windows as the strands stretch far enough.

(https://i.imgur.com/mSA1rVa.jpg)

Once all the strands were in place I used canopy glue to lock them into place and they were left over night to allow the glue to cure correctly.

(https://i.imgur.com/VMNDExD.jpg)

And this morning I got one of the detail pieces g;ued into place and thankfully I did use that canopy glue as some of the glue had seeped through the edge of the piece but it was easy to peel away and give a flat area to glue into place. That would not have been posible if I had used 5min epoxy.

And before I head out just a quick look at how it will all look eventually and this is just my phone held up to the end of the FO strands.

(https://i.imgur.com/8bIv1QY.jpg)

Please comment on the build so far and I hope you like what you see so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 17, 2018, 02:35:09 pm
Back for a mid-week update as off to see Deadpool this Sunday.

Work has continued on "The Empress" and we are slowly but surely working our way along the upper superstructure and filling in as we go.

The largest area has been completed and once I sit down and start again we'll be at the tricky bit that will be the bridge and the city sprawl that it sits on and that is going to be a real swine to get sorted as we will have three different sections/parts going into a relatively small area and there will be three differing sections of FO competing for space so that should be fun.

Anyhoo! Like I said the third area of the city sprawl has been completed and I discovered a happy "accident" that helped finish this bit off and I will have to remember that for this rest of this build and others. The accident was that both sides of FO strands once threaded through the dremeled out sections went in different directions and if they both went forward/back there was no way that area was going to be closed up properly or without seriously breaking the model. Although each strand is only 0.5mm thick when you have over 200+ strands pushing against one another and all going the same way there is a surprisingly amount of force I had to fight against to get the resin piece attached to the main hull. But in going separate ways that "pushing" force was dramatically reduced (I hope that made some sort of sense).

(https://i.imgur.com/ECiP3hK.jpg)

The strands were threaded through and the piece was CA'd into place.

(https://i.imgur.com/0FgSBN8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cz5ziy8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jrmRRyB.jpg)

There we have it for now and as always I hope you like what you see and I would like to hear what you think of the build so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: AlW on May 17, 2018, 03:46:55 pm
Whoa.  That is some serious fiber you've got there, Iain!  You've either found your calling, or someone will be calling to take you away;)  It will look so dramatic when finally lit, there will be nothing to compare it to!  Best of luck completing this one:)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 18, 2018, 02:27:07 am
Whoa.  That is some serious fiber you've got there, Iain!  You've either found your calling, or someone will be calling to take you away;)  It will look so dramatic when finally lit, there will be nothing to compare it to!  Best of luck completing this one:)

Cheers mate and it will definitely be the former. :o
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 20, 2018, 05:19:52 am
Guess who!

Thought I would post up the latest update whilst swanning about in my jammies.

Work continues to move along the city sprawl bit by bit as we continue to add one the detail pieces. The pieces I have been working with are the lower two in the next picture.

(https://i.imgur.com/vCAUC5D.jpg)

As with previous updates I hollowed out the pieces and once the FO strands where threaded through the holes that had been drilled the section was filled with canopy glue and left overnight to cure.

(https://i.imgur.com/6JfgB7Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6JfgB7Q.jpg)

To make room for the FO's the areas they were to be attached to where dremelled out and the detail pieces with the FO's where threaded through and checked for any fit issues.

(https://i.imgur.com/agEvmBB.jpg)

And using some CA glue the two pieces were attached to the main hull and volia!

(https://i.imgur.com/jZlCAia.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/waPh9zj.jpg)

And to finish off this wee update a quick look at how it looks lit up (sort of!). This just with my phone light held against the FO's.

(https://i.imgur.com/1oGHoLo.jpg)

And there we have it. Please leave any comments on the build as I would like to know what you think.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on May 20, 2018, 07:55:08 am
Looking great there Iain.
How are you finding it cutting through the resin? Easy enough? What are you using to hollow these pieces out with? Drill bit or something else?
My only critique (for lack of a better word) would be that the fibers seem a bit too big and may result in loosing some of the sense of scale. However, this is minor and doesn't detract from the awesome work you're doing
It'll be an incredible ship once it's done!
BTW, I'm going to borrow your paint colours as they look perfect to me
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 20, 2018, 01:28:43 pm
Hi Mad.

Thanks for the comments and I know what you mean about the fibers but the next size down is 0.25mm and there is no way such a small bit is getting through that resin. I did try that size of bit but I broke four in as many minutes so that idea was quickly shelved.

I use a 5mm drill bit to drill down into each piece and then swap to a router bit to hollow it out.

The resin is very thick in places and many a 0.5 bit has been broken. One idea I have had was to warm the pieces up to see if you had that made them easier to drill but that met with limited success.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Often wrong Soong on May 20, 2018, 04:05:11 pm
You're nuts......it's gonna be glorious haha!!

Wayne
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on May 21, 2018, 03:04:49 am
that's interesting to know about the bit breakages. I am intending to go the  but use a drill press in an attempt to limit breakages.
Might need to stock up on #80 bits I think
My experience has been that resin is easier to drill through than plastic - mainly because the resin doesn't overheat and melt like styrene
I may have to rethink that
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 21, 2018, 04:16:45 am
Hi Mad.

Better make sure that you have loads of those drill bits. Good idea on the drill press so keep me updated on that one. The resin in some parts is really thick and I had trouble getting a 0.5mm bit through it at times and there are four still embedded in the resin pieces after they broke and I couldn't get them out so I just cut off the ends and left them there.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: RockyD88 on May 25, 2018, 11:29:49 am
This my friend is epic, I have built one resin kit in my life and I found it to be quite difficult, but your making it look easy :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 28, 2018, 11:35:10 am
Thanks Rocky!

And we're back again for another wee update on our girl.

Work has continued along the upper hull city sprawl and as always we are slowly but surely getting there as the "main block" is now finished and then I need to suss out the bridge area. 

As before I have hollowed out some of the detail pieces to allow the FO strands to be threaded through and this has been a challenge in itself as the resin parts are quite thin and a real pain to get ready without drilling right through. Once the pieces where hollowed out the FO strands where threaded through and the hollowed areas filled with canopy glue to lock them into place. These parts where left overnight to allow the glue time to cure correctly.

(https://i.imgur.com/tqPHFA3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/olLLKJs.jpg)

The next day it was time to drill through the main hull to allow room for the FO strands to be threaded thorugh.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cd2EuGW.jpg)

Once the FO strands where sorted the detail pieces where CA'd into place and any gaps filled and sanded smooth to blend into the rest of the hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/9oJdQeN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uR7gQ2I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IqkVlHI.jpg)

There were some extra pieces to be added along side the main sprawl but I did'nt hollow these out as before and instead just drilled straight through and threaded the FO strands into the holes and applied some more canopy glue to lock them into place.

(https://i.imgur.com/UfeXE05.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ho3A81n.jpg)

And there we have it so far. I have started on the next section which will include the bridge area but got some twaeking to do before we attach the bridge module. The main side panels have been washed and pre-drilled and I will attach them at some point this week.

(https://i.imgur.com/8MrTnxD.jpg)

As always I hope you like what you see and please comment on the build so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on May 30, 2018, 03:40:49 pm
This...THIS! Is the very definition of insanity!

You are handling it well, Iain!

Looking suhweet!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on May 31, 2018, 02:30:04 am
Cheers Steve.

Been a trial by fiber but getting there. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on May 31, 2018, 05:16:58 am
Looking very busy there Iain! I have so much to look forward to.  ::)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 03, 2018, 03:28:10 am
Guess Who?

Yep! It's moi with the weekly Sunday update and after 5 months of drilling, swearing, cutting fingers, burning fingers, stabbing oneself in the leg (I'll explain that one day), and getting stoned on various fumes and CA gluing my fingers together numerous times we are nearly at the end of the actual construction phase of this years build. Still got a long way to go before I can even contemplate that the build is even close to being 100% finished but there's a wee flickering light at the end of a very long tunnel (Mm! I can be quite prophetic on an early Sunday morning) that we started down back in February.

Anyhoo! Let's get down to business and the main area which will be topped by the bridge module is pretty well done with just some detail greeblies to be added here and there alongwith some sanding/putty work.

(https://i.imgur.com/iZyuLPt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Oqw569y.jpg)

The hole that you can see is for the few FO strands that will be fed up through to the bridge face and the flat area behind that will have some of those greeblies I mentioned earlier added before we start the major painting phase.

As I mentioned awhile ago I am not going to use the kit supplied bridge module but instead use the bridge from the Bandai "baby" Star Destroyer which can be made to fit with just some minor mods such as lopping the sides off and shortening the front end. Once it's glued into place and any seam work attended to I reckon it will look pretty sweet.

(https://i.imgur.com/jmY7pik.jpg)

I have'nt fully decided as to how the bridge face will be lit and at this point I have two possible options. I can either a) Use fiber optic cable but will go down to 0.25mm diameter so it will be more in scale with the bridge. I had initially toyed with using .25mm FO all over the model but I broke the .25mm drill bits I had rather quickly and there was just no way such a fine drill bit was going to go through some areas of the model as the resin was just too thick and those bits ain't much thicker than a hair.

Option b) I could use 1 or 2 blue smd's threaded up through the bridge neck and illuminate the bridge "windows" from the inside. My only problem with that method is getting the blue of the smd's to match the blue of the leds used throughout the rest of the model and plus I don't have any blue smd's at the mo.

There we have it for now. I reckon the next update will have the upper hull finished and ready to be primed so hopefully something more interesting than looking at endless pics of wee holes all over the place can be shown. Next week will also see the much anticipated return of the now famous blue glowy things as it will be time to start getting all the fibers attached to their light sources.

As always thanks for following the build and please comment on what we have so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 06, 2018, 02:45:33 pm
Me again.

We are so cooking on gas these days with this build. Like I said in the last post the actual construction of "The Empress" is about 90% done with all the FO work completed (I gave up counting the windows once we passed 2300 TBH as my wee brain cell just went "fart" at this point). The 0.25mm fiber for the bridge face is on the way so I need to sit down and figure out as to how I will light up the bridge once and for all. Space on the inside of the pieces I am going to use is extremely limited so we may only get 10 actual "windows" and if truth be known that is being very optimistic but it wouldn't be fun if it was easy now would it?

I took some better clarity pictures of the bridge set up to hopefully show how it will eventually look and to detail up the rest of that area I am using some detail parts from this kit, some spare parts I have for a Zvezda Star Destroyer, and the bridge/neck from the Bandai baby SD. Nothing is stuck down as yet but I just wanted to hear your comments and what we have so far.

(https://i.imgur.com/rvR39A5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oMy9oXE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZXFyX2R.jpg)

The parts as seen in the pictures will need trimming and gap filling to blend it all in. I am going to hold off attaching the senor array and the deflector domws until last as they are just a couple of items I don't want to get knocked off if I can at all avoid it.

So! Let me know what you think and I'll be back at the weekend.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: AlW on June 06, 2018, 04:34:53 pm
Every time I open your posts on this SSD my jaw just drops!  It's amazing to see how many fibers you've threaded through that hull and how you've stuck with it!  You've set a new record for fibers in a starship and a new endurance record as well;)  Still watching in awe. 
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 07, 2018, 06:52:10 am
Thanks AlW.

I am enjoying this build myself and hopefully she'll raise a few sheckles at the auction in November.

I do have to admit though I am looking forward to some builds of my own when the big girl is finished such as finally starting my own 1/350 Refit, Ironman, the big 22" Eagle and a couple of Batmobiles I have collecting dust in the stash.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on June 07, 2018, 07:15:49 am
I like the redesign of the bridge section - it just looks right. I personally wouldn't go with the Zvezda parts as they look to big, unless you were to put some more shelves on it to cramp it up some more to be in line with the rest of the ship - other wise it'd just look to over scale
Other than that, yeah - I like where your going with it
Keep the pictures coming!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 07, 2018, 07:55:22 am
Cheers Mad.

"My" idea of using the Bandai baby SD bridge seems to be working. ::)

Seriously though we're nearly at the end of the construction phase and now need to suss out where all the leds that will light up the fo's are going to internally which will be a brain teaser to be sure.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 10, 2018, 02:01:00 pm
Howdy y'all!

A wee bit later than usual for the weekly Sunday update but just back from the new Jurassic Park film (pretty good!).

Anyhoo! this update heralds the return of all things blue and glowy as I got the led tape that will light up the side trenches installed and working as they should.

(https://i.imgur.com/eWXc2vj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xmcDcrA.jpg)

A slow process to be sure but each section was tested as we went along until all 16 segments comprising 6 leds each were in place.

I have each wiring connection soldered and heatshrink protected and next week sometime I will hot glue each connection down. The blue tape is just holding each section down temporarily.

(https://i.imgur.com/F9vlmPd.jpg)

And now the moment you have all been waiting for - the "Blue Glowy Things Cometh" (in other words just checking the tape once all the connections had been checked.

(https://i.imgur.com/EPfCTUB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bU882Yr.jpg)

As always the camera washed out a lot but I reckon these will light up those trench windows perfectly. Once this lot is all hot glued down I can get started on installing the big leds to the various fiber bunches and we will be well on our way for the November auction.

Please comment on the build so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: jwood314 on June 10, 2018, 09:12:21 pm
Iain,

I think you missed one fiber on that bottom piece of resin....just one fiber :)

James
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 11, 2018, 02:33:02 am
Iain,I think you missed one fiber on that bottom piece of resin....just one fiber :)James

Damnit! I was hoping that no-one would notice. ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on June 14, 2018, 07:14:27 am
Iain,I think you missed one fiber on that bottom piece of resin....just one fiber :)James

Damnit! I was hoping that no-one would notice. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 16, 2018, 02:58:52 am
Honey I'm home.

A quick (ish) wee update on our girl. The upper hull leds have been glued into their respective carbon fiber tubes.

(https://i.imgur.com/x8j7zxF.jpg)

Once the epoxy had cured a generous dollop of Tulip fabric paint was lathered over the end to stop light leaks from there.

(https://i.imgur.com/QdQ42eP.jpg)

All the above was left for 24hrs to allow the Tulip to cure and then the fiddly work of getting the fibers into the ends of the tubes and glued (epoxied) into place.

(https://i.imgur.com/fCu5MPA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hmSP6bg.jpg)

Just a quick look as to how it will all look once I start to get her buttoned up.

(https://i.imgur.com/FZzIrjS.jpg)

I thought I would have to order up some SMD's to light up the bridge but I found a wee stash amongst my bits 'n' bobs and these will be perfect for the job in hand.

(https://i.imgur.com/nPFdkIc.jpg)

Was a bit fiddly getting two smd'd in there but we got there in the end. Going to wire up an extra resistor or two to tone down the light a bit or I may just fill the interior with some canopy glue.

(https://i.imgur.com/dfjJqv1.jpg)

And finally you will be glad to know that the latest stages of this build have a new overseer to help Ziggy keep an eye on things so please raise your glasses to Frodo (8wks old Veiled Chameleon).

(https://i.imgur.com/uQd29FU.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on June 16, 2018, 09:20:59 am
Looking good Iain!  Where did you get the carbon fiber tubing from? What made you use that as a material? Is there a benefit to it?
It's an interesting choice is all
As for the bridge lighting and toning it down, why not cut some clear plastic sheet to fit the inside and spray it matte clear which will diffuse the light nicely and tone the brightness down. I used this method with the sub-engines of the Andromeda and it worked beautifully
Looking forward to the next installment!!  :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: incubus35 on June 16, 2018, 11:12:45 am
Iain, this looks superb! How you have the patience with all of those fibre optic cables, I don't know! I have one of the MPC star destroyers knocking about, and have tried to get the right scale with the FOs, but I can't do it.

Welcome to Frodo too! He looks like he'll keep a good eye on the project :)

Pete
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on June 17, 2018, 09:46:31 am
Welcome to Frodo too! He looks like he'll keep a good eye on the project :)
;D ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 18, 2018, 04:13:52 am
Thanks guys.

I have the upper hull partly primed so will finish the priming tonight and get that section painted up at the weekend.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 19, 2018, 02:25:36 am
Hi Mad.

The decision to use carbon fiber was two fold - I was curious to see how easy/hard it was to work with and also this kit weighs a ton anyway so any method I could find to lose weight was worth it.

I got it from an Asian vendor on Ebay.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on June 19, 2018, 03:49:00 am
how is it to work with? Is it worth it? I might look into it myself for my own use as well
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 19, 2018, 04:08:19 am
Hello again Mad.

It is very easy to work with although when cutting it I would wear a respirator or suitable mask as it's dusty when being cut, or else cut it outdoors.

IMO it is well worth it for a kit of this size but I don't know if I would use it again as the other kits I have don't come close to this one's size.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on June 19, 2018, 06:15:05 am
thanks Iain! I'll have to do a search on that product tonight
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 20, 2018, 03:09:10 pm
Howdy y'all!

A midweek update as I am stoned out of my face on painkillers after totally fracking up my right knee at Karate today (and I have a grading next week!).

Anyhoo! Enough of my woes and whilst the ice pack is still cold I thought I would update you on where we are with our Empress. The bridge is a go and all the upper hull lighting has been checked again prior to applying a primer coat and once again I cannot praise STYRYNLEZ (Or ULTIMATE primer in the UK enough).

(https://i.imgur.com/3mqmXBT.jpg)

The bridge face itself has the fo strands inserted prior to being attached to the rest of the model.

(https://i.imgur.com/EVb5NYT.jpg)

And just because I wanted to make sure everything was working as it should I thought I would check just before applying the aforementioned primer.

(https://i.imgur.com/VKbgZqs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/apWNJAP.jpg)

I had noted some awkward areas and some that had some pretty obvious light leaks so I hand painted primer onto those areas to eliminate that problem so that's why some areas are already black.

(https://i.imgur.com/V6NIcsg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/afxA5Mg.jpg)

Once I was happy with everything I went ahead and primed the upper hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/szx0vHh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jknRFeE.jpg)

And there we have it so far. I am going to leave the kit alone until the weekend and hopefully by then I will be able to walk upright and see straight. Thanks for following the build and please comment and where we are so far.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 24, 2018, 03:02:03 am
Just when you thought it was safe to have a peek at this post we have another Sunday update.

At last I have had the time to start painting the upper hull. First though I painted the underside trenches which will blend into the side trenches when the hulls are joined together.

(https://i.imgur.com/DLRfxID.jpg)

Once the paint was dry (aided by pinching Eleanor's hair dryer!) it was time to start the upper hull detail painting but first I masked off the city sprawl area as that will be a darker blue grey than the rest of the hull and a mirror image to the previously completed engine deck/lower hull.

(https://i.imgur.com/s1JtDtZ.jpg)

Next is was time to start the hull and once again I used the same technique used the lower hull and "Our Lady" in that by using a couple of large playing cards I sprayed a series of lines across the hull going left to right along the length of the kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/PfBhXf5.jpg)

Once that was done the kit was flipped around (really awkward to do thanks to the size of the Empress) and the same series of lines was sprayed at right angles to the first lot until we got to this point.

(https://i.imgur.com/nYNQptN.jpg)

Ye olde hairdryer was used again to help the drying process but I still waited about an hour before going over the upper hull with the airbrush "filling in" the pattern previously painted until the hull was completed.

(https://i.imgur.com/nvrxFvn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YaLUVMc.jpg)

It can't be seen very well at all in the pictures but there is a subtle pannelling effect on the upper hull so quite chuffed how it turned out as (to me) it looks like the upper hull as seen is made up up of distinct plates and is not just one big, solid area.

(https://i.imgur.com/lb8vhPZ.jpg)

And there we have it for this update. Thanks to work, karate grading and going to London midweek for Eleanor's birthday I won't be able to attend to the city sprawl area until next weekend but once that is done the painting will be pretty well finished with only touch uo work to do after I start trimming the 3000 odd fibers back.

As always thanks for coming along on this build. I hope you like what you see and please comment on our girl.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: neilfsmith on June 24, 2018, 11:16:35 am
This is gorgeous!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on June 26, 2018, 01:49:17 pm
This is gorgeous!

Thanks bud!

Despite having a zillion and one things to do before tomorrow I have the upper hull completed and ready to go (sort of!).

(https://i.imgur.com/zge6lx4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/epaceoD.jpg)

The first pic above looks a little slick but I am just waiting on the dull cote to dry. There is a distinct difference in shade/tone of colour between the flat areas of the hull and the city sprawl so please just take my word on that one. I tried for ages to get a decent picture but TBH I just gave up in the end but as long as we bust the bank in November then job done.

Now! I said "sort of" at the beginning of this post and that meant I still have the fibers to trim back flush to whatever part of the hull they stick out of and whatever touch up work is needed after that which I reckon will take about 2-3 days to complete and then we can start to think about joining the hulls together at last.

Before I leave you all I thought I would fire up the lights to see what she'll look like when finally completed. I still have a mountain of work to do before November but we're getting close (reasonably close now) to the final day of this build after 5 months construction time.

(https://i.imgur.com/2uNyEx6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ibHyhRx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nkriTdR.jpg)

As always thanks for coming along with me on this latest journey to an auction and please comment on what you see.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on June 27, 2018, 08:12:16 am
Looking great Iain! It's making me want to start mine - but I just don't have either the display space or the mojo for it just yet
Will be tuning in for more as it comes in
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on June 27, 2018, 12:45:32 pm
Looking great Iain! It's making me want to start mine - but I just don't have either the display space or the mojo for it just yet
Will be tuning in for more as it comes in

Ditto!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: starsiegeplayer on June 28, 2018, 12:19:17 am
Soooo many fibers. :o
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: RockyD88 on June 30, 2018, 01:11:28 pm
I remember the first time I saw the super star destroyer when I saw empire strikes back at the theatre. awsome :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 14, 2018, 02:32:22 pm
Thanks guys.

The latest update on the big girl after I finally had the time to get some work done.

First up the base has arrived and I just have to decide whether to paint it, varnish it or stain it.

(https://i.imgur.com/cJuEIW4.jpg)

I will measure up the top display area and get the mirror ordered when I come back from holiday in September.

All the fibers have been trimmed and tomorrow I will touch up the paint work and then we'll see about joining up the hulls. Of course I just had to see that all was well with the leds and needed to make sure they where working as required.

(https://i.imgur.com/kNoFbFD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F7LU7UM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E3BoO7n.jpg)

We're nearly there with this build folks but there is still a lot of work to do before "The Empress" is ready for her auction.

I hope that you like what you see so far folks.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Dvciio on July 15, 2018, 01:29:41 am
 ;It is so great!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 16, 2018, 09:01:53 am
Me again!

To hell with resting up and not doing anything as that just bores the "You Know What's" off me and I was never good at listening to doctors anyway!
Today a pretty major milestone has been reached in that the model was at last powered up as one (sort of) complete unit for the first time and we haven't blown anything up. Besides I needed a wee break from some severe GOT binge watching (series 3, 4 & 5 in the past three days)

I decided to do this as the bottom half has been hidden away up in the loft for the past three months out of harms way and I want the kit to run powered up for at least 24hrs before I start to button her up as there is no way to get inside the model again once she's done and I want to make 100% sure everything is spot on perfect. I will have some major head scratching and sweary bits ahead as the FO strands on both halves are getting in the way of each other so expletives on standby.

But! enough of me waffling on lets show some pics and please mind the two halves are just sitting on top of one another although I have since applied some masking tape to stop them sliding about.

(https://i.imgur.com/pROoE3C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HKwUGb7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SZowC1Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A7KllI5.jpg)

Still got a lot of work in the weeks ahead but I though you would like to have an idea as to how "The Empress" will eventually look in all her glory.

Thanks for watching.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: AlW on July 16, 2018, 09:37:47 am
Really looks terrific, Iain!  I like how you have "expletives on standby" for when you button her up and thereby leaving nothing to chance;)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Decoman on July 16, 2018, 10:57:14 am
Seeing the red light off the thrusters and the blue light off all the view ports looks awesome. :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on July 17, 2018, 05:33:21 am
it's going to be very squashy in there isn't it?
It looks fantastic so far. I may look into those strip lights too.
Hey, I don't remember if you showed it or not, but have you got an image or 3 showing how you've attached the stand to the underside of the ship? I just don't recall seeing how you went about it as it's something I am still musing over how to do. I'm thinking because of the extra weight and the sheer length of her hull, 2 stands might be the way to go? Be better to redistribute the pressure with 2 than 1?
Or am I just over thinking it?
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 20, 2018, 10:10:33 am
Thanks Mad.

It does get a bit squishy-squashy on the inside and I had to reposition two of the leds on the inside so the model could be closed up without too much bother.

The mounting pole is a 16mm carbon fiber rod and on the inside of the model is a 1" thick wooden block epoxied into place once a 16mm hole was drilled into it. TBH get that block to sit perfectly straight and level was a total pain in the a**e but we got there in the end. Good idea with the two mounting poles and I will let you know how I get on once I get her mounted to her final display base. She is a very large model as you know and now she is completed she is also very ass heavy.

Now after a 6 month + build, the "Empress of the Galaxy" has finally been completed and once this post is done I want to get her wrapped up and up into the loft where she'll be safe and out of harms way.

I have the base to get sorted out next and get the mirror that will sit on top of the base ordered but I will be leaving that 'til next pay day. My neighbour Glen has access to a drill press so we will get a exact hole drilled in the centre of the base so she's not leaning over in any direction and will sit there straight and precisely.

Got some pics for you to see and please comment on what you see as the next time you see her she will be finally mounted on her final base and just waiting for the November auction. Going to be sad to see her go to the auction so that day will be a bitter sweet one for me.

(https://i.imgur.com/Hg5I1yT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9gYB16m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/P6q4dZM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J5y3D8l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3YKcBzT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IqONQSf.jpg)

I really hope my girl busts the bank in November.

Like I said please comment on what you see as any and all comments are so much appreciated.

I shot a wee video to let you see the big girl and I waffle on a bit (no suprises there). The "groaning" sound is the temporary mounting pole going into the internal wooden block as I turn the kit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssaArmDBCA
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Decoman on July 20, 2018, 09:39:30 pm
Congratulations! :) I'd like to see more photos though.

I would recommend you take photos without perspective distortion. I.e taking photos from afar, and then zooming in. This way, it looks like  you took a photo from afar, and not close up.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on July 21, 2018, 06:10:57 am
Congratulations Iain - it has come out beautifully! The bridge looks so much better than the kit supplied one
The whole ship looks amazing and it really makes me want to do mine, but I have no where to put it once its done.
Thanks for posting the WIP - I will find it very useful in later times :)
Am looking forward to your next project
Si
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 21, 2018, 06:25:33 am
Thanks guys.

Mad - well worth your while getting one of the Bandai baby Star Destroyers and using that bridge on your own kit.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: scottminium on July 21, 2018, 03:46:42 pm
fabulous!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: NemVia on July 24, 2018, 04:46:50 am
This is outstanding! The detail in this scale is just awesome. Very nice work. Please do a few shots of her against a black backdrop if you can. Very well done.
Mark
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 24, 2018, 05:00:04 am
This is outstanding! The detail in this scale is just awesome. Very nice work. Please do a few shots of her against a black backdrop if you can. Very well done.Mark

Will do bud.

Just waiting on word for the mirror I am putting on the base to show off the underside and then she'll be mounted for display permanently.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: RockyD88 on July 27, 2018, 01:03:05 pm
Well done!  lighting is awesome but the most impressive thing is the paint work, great job :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on July 27, 2018, 01:10:40 pm
Thanks Rocky.

Definitely NO more Star Destroyers for awhile after three in a row.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 09, 2018, 08:53:21 am
And she's done. :thumbsup:

I got our girl finished up 100%, done and dusted today and she's all ready to go to the auction in November.

The mirror was attached to the base and left overnight so that the glue could cure properly.

(https://i.imgur.com/8SqMoOk.jpg)

And this morning I removed the protective cover from the mirror. I have to say that getting the mirror sorted was a nervous time as it was custom made and I was praying that it would'nt get scratched, damaged in any shape or form.

(https://i.imgur.com/5kk3tOM.jpg)

The next item on the agenda was to tie the model into the wiring loom and tuck all the wire down into the mounting rod which was fun as the wire did'nt want to play ball but we got there.

(https://i.imgur.com/WsXCQEj.jpg)

A short wait for the epoxy to cure and finally "The Empress" was attached to her display base and this build which started way back in January was slowly drawing to a close.

(https://i.imgur.com/E01oYUU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d23QqTp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KiFa0yD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cLIUIzC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ixxbxq0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0ht340j.jpg)

I hope you all like how the model turned out.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on September 10, 2018, 08:28:01 am
This is one of those moments where I really wish I was living near some one who's built something as awesome as this so I can try take some pictures of their sensational creation that better matches it than what a phone will produce

It looks amazing Iain - I hope it fetches the money it deserves. Keep us posted as to how it goes
I also like that illuminated button too - nice addition!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 10, 2018, 12:58:00 pm
Thanks Mad!

That illuminated button was a total swine to get wired up.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MattA on September 10, 2018, 02:32:28 pm
Wow, that thing is fabulous!  Very Very well done!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: jwood314 on September 11, 2018, 08:06:08 am
Awesome!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: AlW on September 11, 2018, 08:49:39 am
Great work, Iain!  You've outdone yourself with this build.  You could've stopped at the Republic Star Destroyer a few years ago and I would've called you a Master Modeler then, but this is over the top;)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 11, 2018, 09:26:24 am
Thanks guys.

I have Revell/Zvezda Star Destroyer on the bench getting made up to b sold and once that is done I will take a wee break (I have never said that before! ;D) and then I plan on tackling that big 38" Parasaurolophus I have.

Just waiting on Gerry/HDA to get his new store up and running so I can get his 1/350 refit masks then my attempt on the big beastie of the modelling world.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: WeeMoe on September 11, 2018, 04:12:06 pm
Very nice base where did you get the mirror base from? Uk?
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 12, 2018, 02:18:10 am
Very nice base where did you get the mirror base from? Uk?

Thanks mate.

The base and mirror were custom made but even then the two together came in at just over 30GBP which I thought was a real bargain. Both sellers I have used before and got to know them through Ebay and when I get home from work/karate tonight I can pm the details if you want.

Both are UK based.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
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Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: starsiegeplayer on September 12, 2018, 08:37:37 pm
It looks very good. 
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on September 13, 2018, 06:23:50 am
Yet another build you should be quite proud of young man!

Don't take this wrong Iain.....  but your skills have really improved over the past 3 or 4 years (from my view port). Where you once dealt with the typical gremlins and "oops" moments, lately your results are stellar and seem to be happening the first time around.....   you're not building kits, you are attacking them!

I have a feeling your 1/350 Refit is gonna be some serious eye candy.....   just don't get cocky!

:b
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 13, 2018, 06:31:47 am
Thanks ImWolf! ;D

My own refit is at least 6mths away so got plenty of time to get some practice in for that but first I really, really want to tackle that big Parasaurolophus model next.
But TBH before anything I just plan on taking a month or so off modelling to do some other like minded stuff.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: WeeMoe on September 13, 2018, 09:53:40 pm
Hi Iain if you woul that would be great cheers 👍
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 20, 2018, 04:20:46 am
Hi Iain if you woul that would be great cheers 👍

I haven't forgotten you Mo - been running about like a headless chicken for the past week. :(
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: WeeMoe on September 21, 2018, 06:15:07 pm
Ha! Don
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on September 22, 2018, 11:00:53 am
Ha! Don


PM sent Mo.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on November 25, 2018, 09:48:49 am
Hi folks.

Just back from Birmingham and the auction where the model sold for 2500GBP.
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: ImWolf on November 25, 2018, 03:32:00 pm
Well deserved! Congrats Iain....

(time to quit the day job?)

:b
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Guns Akimbo on December 01, 2018, 10:26:27 am
WOW!
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Shawn McClure on December 03, 2018, 10:31:27 am
That looks fantastic.

Shawn
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: Madhatter on December 04, 2018, 03:37:19 am
Sorry I missed the news on the results of the auction Iain until now - but a massive congratulations on getting such an awesome figure for a worth while cause! Well done mate
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on December 04, 2018, 05:22:31 am
Thanks guys.

That was my last auction build for awhile as I have so many of my own builds I want to get into but glad I went out on a high! ;D
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: pakratt840 on December 04, 2018, 09:44:51 pm
Wish I had the skill to build something that someone would willingly bid that much for charity. Much applause and bowing to your generosity.👏👏
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: TK Iain on December 05, 2018, 02:32:45 am
Thanks Dan.

Would never have thought it would go for such a stunning amount. :)
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on December 06, 2018, 07:14:24 am
Hi folks.

Just back from Birmingham and the auction where the model sold for 2500GBP.

OH! WOW!

Congrats Iain! Well done!

Steve
Title: Re: Super Star Destroyer
Post by: PCabral on December 08, 2018, 04:17:15 pm
Incredible work! Congratulation!