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Title: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 08, 2013, 08:37:15 am
I'm actually still doing doing touch-up, and assorted enhancements to the D7 group build model.....   but in the mean time.....

2nd build is on the bench!!!    This is the Matt Jefferies design that never made it to the silver screen, (or any screen that I'm aware of), and I don't think it was intended to be. As memory serves, this ship was designed for AMT as the pilot of an intended fleet of "Strategic Space Command" spacecraft (hoping to build on profits from the already popular Star Trek kits), but the LE just didn't sell enough.....

I read somewhere along the way that Mr. Jefferies had a fascination with submarines and was leaning towards including these elements in his designs....    which explains the obvious "conning tower" shape of the LE bridge. Even though the LE was not used as any type of ship during the short run of TOS, that "conning tower" was used again when he designed the DY-100 class freighter (Botany Bay).

Actually, I'm fine with the fact that this little cruiser was never "recorded" in any way.....  I can do anything I want with this build and no one can tell me it's not "authentic" or in line with a particular display elsewhere...  :b

When this kit was first released AMT did NOT state a scale on the box or instructions...   it took our fellow plastiphile, Frank Henriquez, painstaking time to determine what this ship actually is..... 1:500

http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/le.html

Strangely enough, with the re-issue AMT suddenly decided to announce that the Leif Ericson was a 1:500 scale model. (Not sure how they determinded this or who they thanked).

Other cool info and build info about this neglected kit can be found here.....

http://www.projectrho.com/SSC/model.html#columbus

Ok....   that said, it's been over 40 years since I ripped the box open on this kit.....    update will follow.



Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: wolf 359 on March 08, 2013, 10:15:05 am
I have seen this before, but have never see one built. I will be following. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 09, 2013, 08:17:29 pm
The good, the bad, and the ugly.....  (an OoB review)

Wish I could say all is great, but I'm no happier with the quality of this kit than I was with the 1:1000 D7.  :'(

First thing that jumped out at me was the flashing.... and more flashing....  there was major trimming, filing and sanding b4 I could even start test fitting pieces. There was even some plastic goobers in the middle of smooth surfaces!

The major hull halves fit pretty good at the rear and the very front, but most of the neck and wider hull has bad seam mis-match...  I tried filing/sanding on that seam while I was holding them together, but my emery stick started brushing on the molded window frames so I stopped there.....  I see some putty in my future.

The interior of the hanger deck looks like they threw it into a tiger cage! It's all scratched up and has indentations on the bottom and sides....   there's a very obvious knife scratch in there too! This is right out of the box. The bottom has ribs molded on it as well which won't help the nice decal sheet much.

There's a rear panel to cover the trapezoidal hole on the end of the upper hull, but the panel isn't wide enough so there are gaps to deal with there..... more putty?

While test fitting it became apparent that the instruction sheet is wrong on placement of the engine shrouds....   luckily these are asymmetric and unique enough parts that you cannot physically put them together wrong (per the instructions).

The engines on each side consist of two red clear pieces connected by a chrome part, and the kit includes a 3V battery pack with 4 LED's to light up the 4 red engines....   but the instructions are kinda goofy there too as you would end up with the LED pointed towards the chrome connector. I ended up bending the wires 180 and then 90 to fit up through the side slot and still be pointed towards the engine ends.....  once you do this test fit, I don't think you'll get it back apart!  LOL

The display stand is the old style triangle thingie which I don't think I'll use....   they changed this slightly to use a square peg off the base stem instead of the long tab, but they left the tab slot in the hull....   (more putty). In fact, there's a completely separate display base included which I believe was introduced with the 70's version of the Enterprise kits. I have no clue what it's doing in this kit....  the instructions make no mention of it at all.

OK....  that's long winded enough for now.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 10, 2013, 10:32:23 am
Alright.....  got a few confidence boosters last night.....

I was web surfing on this subject for ideas and ended up at CultTVman buying some PE for this kit...   which I didn't realize existed. I got a sheet from ParaGrafix that will not only save that shuttle bay but totally enhance it, and a smaller sheet from JT that has some outer hatch covers.

Then I was loitering about on eBay and found some very thin styrene sheeting. I'm hoping this will work on my hanger door modification. Those doors were kinda cool back in the 70's, but I find them sorta quaint compared to today's standards. Also, I'm planning on some lighting in that hanger so I'm thinking that these old doors will be a light leak problem and need to be replaced by some sliding doors.

So I'm waiting on the mail....   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Big Rob on March 10, 2013, 11:41:04 am
Looks interesting, Imwolf! Will be nice to see with the PE enhancements 

I didn't know they existed for this kit either :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 10, 2013, 12:56:24 pm
I hope it turns out more than interesting Rob, I'm sure the PE cost me more than the model did....   8)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Prowler901 on March 11, 2013, 12:51:38 pm
Looking forward to following this.  I had the glow in the dark kit when I was 8.  Me and that ship had a lot of cool adventures together. :)  But, that darn stand looked like vampire fangs in the middle of the night if the ship wasn't on them. :o
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 11, 2013, 01:18:30 pm
Nice choice!  This will be a cool build.  As much as the kit suffers a bit, that Paragraphics set is supposed to be a real beauty!
I bought this kit a little while ago and have been doing a bit of research.  Here's a pretty sweet build up over at Resin Illuminati.  http://resinilluminati.com/showthread.php?t=13902 (http://resinilluminati.com/showthread.php?t=13902)
If you haven't already seen it, there are some neat techniques and some cool retro touches in the thread.

I'm going to enjoy watching you work this one Imwolf!!  :)   
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 11, 2013, 02:04:31 pm
Thanks for that link Fumble..... had not seen this b4....  this guy is doing a lot of the things I had envisioned and more.....

I ended up with the same cut off nail file last night sanding the inside of that box.... lotta fun!  :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 16, 2013, 05:20:15 pm
Sorry about the slow updates here gents....   wish I had more time to play with this stuff.....

The PE showed up from CultTVman on Wednesday....    That's fast shipping! (If any of you reading this can tell me the basic do's and don't's when it comes to working with PE, I'm all ears.) I was hoping the styrene would show up quick too because the first thing I really need to get past on this kit is the hanger door mod.

In the mean time I did smaller stuff. After gluing the engine connector halves together they strangely got even bigger and lots of hand sanding didn't help them fit into the engine ends. I ended up chucking each end in a drill to polish the other end....   that went perty quick! (Given this issue and the whole squeezing of the lights into the engines, next time I might just extend the slot in the red engine parts out towards the connector).

Styrene showed up at the post office yesterday...... Yippee! I used the thinnest (.016) sheet to cut out the doors. (This stuff was very flexible in the sheet, but not so much at 1 1/16 door width). I glued a 1/16 wide (.030 thick) strip on the bottom edge to act as a stop. Then I stuck a small steel rod into some tiny shrink sleeve and sliced one side to attach to the edge of the doors where they come together. (hoping this will give me better light blocking.)

On the hanger bay, I roughed out some new end walls with .060 styrene making them a bit higher than I need and glued those on. Once these are set I plan to hold some shim stock or banding material along that newly formed shelf and sand the new wall down to a uniform distance off the original. The hanger will be attached to the hull by these two edges only. Right now I'm thinking that .025 banding material will give me about the right step, but I need to do some paint experiments first to see how thick the final doors will be. (how much thicker does plastic get after 3 or 4 coats of primer, paint, gloss?).

After brainstorming on this door system for a while the above fix seemed best to me for a few reasons. It's perty easy to do, it maintains the original hanger interior size so I don't have to trim off PE, and it creates a nice back board to putty the old door hinge cut-outs. (I was already in that hanger with lot of stuff including rotary tools to remove the molded on details, and I do have a lot of putty repair to deal with!)  LOL

I had already checked out all the interference issues on this system and was actually considering making the doors slide lengthwise to eliminate all these issues, but I think I can make this work and it will prolly look much nicer in the end.....   I layed the hull on top of the (still too high) rough hanger and I think it looks good.

Only other thing so far was a slight mod on the tabs of the upper engine shrouds. They stuck into the hull too far so I stick sanded them at an angle to allow the doors to slide by those.....   Not much of a change, but needed. I'm thinking that I'll just glue some more .016 flapper to the inner hull later so the doors can slip by the whole engine/wiring stuff.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 16, 2013, 05:21:04 pm
More pic's....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: HDATX on March 16, 2013, 08:19:06 pm
This is going to be a cool build.  I have so wanted to see someone put this kit together.  It has been out there in modeling land for years and I have never seen a build of it detailed and your choice to do the repop is great.  Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Prowler901 on March 16, 2013, 10:46:50 pm
Lookin' good. :)  What's with the basketball court in the photo-etch?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 17, 2013, 05:57:52 pm
I hadn't even noticed the basketball court scribing on the etch when I bought it, but if you're going to shoot some hoops between planets I guess the hanger deck is the best place to go? There's even some small backboards and rims scribed on the observation/control towers.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 18, 2013, 05:20:39 am
Too many other chores so just a minor update tonight....

I did look at most of Trekriffic's build (which Fumble posted above) and the man was unfortunately correct....   AMT had shifted the engine locations by about 1/16 somewhere along the way.....   (I have the original kit to compare to). This wouldn't be an issue at all if you're not using the PE, but it looked to me that the new engine position would be right up to the PE grill. (I elongated the 8 slots in the side of the hull by .080)

The test piece I had painted with 3 different products only grew in thickness about .003, so I went ahead and sanded the new hanger end walls down with a chunk of banding material which should leave me plenty of clearance for the door slides.

Only other thing was my first experience with Aves Apoxie Sculpt....   I used it to putty the large holes and slot in the hull bottom, and the hinge notches in the hanger. I like this stuff! Took a long time to set, but I found it very easy to work with and just as simple to sand down even to the plastic.    8)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: wolf 359 on March 18, 2013, 11:39:35 am
Nice start. I have not seen one of these being built. I will have to check it out.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Les on March 18, 2013, 03:31:56 pm
Nice build so far; and it appears you are working around the size issues you mentioned; success and fun to you for the rest of the fittings!   :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 19, 2013, 06:01:31 am
Thanks for all the kind words folks.....   much appreciated.....    :b

I taped off all the required hull parts late last night and was going to do the black/white light block painting but the temperature here dropped quick to about 32F so I'm on hold.....  (I do not have a heated paint area yet and I'm not going to paint indoors any more.)

I'm curious about something too....   I see a lot of modelers start drilling out holes for windows, and then they decide to do the light block painting. Doesn't that give you a lot of paint in your window holes? How do you guys prefer to do it and why?

As a side note, when I looked back at my other LE kit (original edition but not sealed) a few nights ago to check out the engine move details, I had to do some test fitting on some pieces there too.....   and wow...   much better quality!!! Now that the re-issue is out there, it probably drops the price of the originals that survived a lot, and if you're thinking about building one of these there's a definite difference in quality. Just something to consider.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 23, 2013, 12:10:22 am
Trying to make best use of my time, I went a few directions since I got home from work last night.......

Did the light block painting on the interior of the hull halves, rear panel, conning tower, and the engine shrouds in flat black, and then gloss white.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 23, 2013, 12:14:56 am
The Scout Ship needed 2 rounds of putty/sand.....    maybe a third?    LOL

I glued on the PE landing gear (way cool compared to the kit parts) and primed that baby...
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 23, 2013, 12:15:53 am
This bird needs a paint job......
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 23, 2013, 12:32:33 am
While all this was going on I started on the hanger deck floor.....    the PE part fit close, but not close enough. Two layers of masking tape on the edges and there was zero wiggle.

I flipped the good side down and used it as a drill jig to do the perimeter hole pattern.....      82 holes!

First I went thru with a (.020) .5mm drill....    after I sanded both sides you could hardly see any of the holes.
So I put the PE jig back in there and went thru again, but this time tried something I had considered in the past....  using a cutting agent. I had a pop bottle cap with olive oil in it and dipped the drill into that every so often.....  this gave me nice holes. (of course, the drill was only doing clean-up duty)

Then I decided I wanted the holes in the plastic bigger to let more light in (I'm planning on a light box below the deck), so I drilled them out again freehand with a (.040) 1mm drill using olive oil again. As expected the drill followed the pilot hole quite nicely, but I also had very little burr issues...... 

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 23, 2013, 12:38:36 am
Along the way it occurred to me that someone might chop this section of the floor off completely since the PE part makes a new floor, but I have other (possible) plans for this deck, so I'll just keep it there for now.... 

 8)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 23, 2013, 08:24:27 pm
This is coming along great ImWolf!  Sounds like you are enjoying the scratch building aspect.  Great idea with the shrink tube/wire "weather stripping"!
Also, good tip with the olive oil.  Ima try that for sure!
That little scout ship does look like a duck alright.  You've got him looking good.
I find that if the windows are small, no paint gets through them.  Maybe a pressure within the ship or an air current type deal :o  It's never been an issue with the smaller holes.
Your making some great progress on this ImWolf!  Your build log is detailed, educational and enjoyable to follow!!  Keep up the great job.   :)
 
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 24, 2013, 03:30:42 am
Thanks Jeff...  some aspects of this build are fun alright, others are a bit frustrating. Today I went to work on the dreaded windows and they came out awful. The drilled holes are fine, but I have no choice but to putty closed a lot of the oval windows and try again....   :(

Please explain to me the technique you used to get such perfect windows on your little D7 kit.

Thank You,
Wolf
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 24, 2013, 01:43:24 pm
Perfect?  I don't know about perfect.  Probably more like acceptable or decent  ;)

Those windows were so small, I just used the drillbit itself as a file to oval out the holes.  It worked pretty well, but any tools do want to wander off course.  (Being a tool guy, you'll know what I mean).  On my 1/537 Refit, I used a dremel tool with a drillbit in it.  I had a tough time with this method, and ended up refilling some of the larger ovals with styrene and trying again.  I think by hand, although much more time consuming, is the best way to work the round hole into an oval. HTH  :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 26, 2013, 08:07:13 am
Perfect?  I don't know about perfect.  Probably more like acceptable or decent  ;)

Thanks for the reply Jeff......   methinks you're being a bit modest.....

There's a dude lurking about this forum that insists on posting pics of his model on any other thread of that build....   so, (being anti establishment as I am) I think I'll post a pic of your build on my thread.....   :b

When I first saw this example of your window handiwork I was in awe!!!   But now you tell me you use drill bits as files? (you're a strange kid aren't you?)    :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: mokulele on March 26, 2013, 04:52:40 pm
Wolf, this thread is awesome!  Don't you love PE?!  Once you learn how to use it, it can add so much to a model, especially at the scales we work in!  Great job!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 27, 2013, 06:13:45 am
@ mokulele

Hey brother....   thanks for the kind words...  And yes, PE is something brand new to me that I'm liking. I still need to learn all the tricks of the trade with PE and other things.

Sometimes I wonder if I post too much "minuchia" regarding builds on this forum, and if I should even post failures....  but then I realize that we all probably learn more from our mistakes than our triumphs. So if I can save someone else a silly mistake at the lowly cost of my pride, that's OK with me....

Recently I learned that a little lube on your tool helps a lot to keep the plastic melting onto it..... but at the same time I learned how to putty closed a bunch of bad windows due to poor technique....  LOL. (I also learned that light block painting your interior hull b4 you've got your windows done is not so smart!)

What are you building bud?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: TrekWorks on March 27, 2013, 11:06:54 am
That is a cool kit and I didn't know they had such a nice PE set for it either. It's always neat to see something a bit different than Star Trek around here and I'm glad your sharing the build. Don't be too hard on yourself about doing those tiny windows. It took me about 4-5 attempts to get them acceptable on my little D-7 which I have not yet finished :(

People do appreciate when you show the good and the bad. I messed up hours worth of work doing masking on my Refit build and when I showed what not to do, alot of guys were glad I did. Looking forward to seeing the progress on this one. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: wolf 359 on March 27, 2013, 11:21:14 am
Looking good Im wolf. Keep it coming.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: HDATX on March 27, 2013, 08:21:25 pm
I never relized how small that shuttle was!  Great job and I can't wait to see more of her.  Your build is really looking good and I think the subject is just a great kit!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 28, 2013, 06:07:25 am
Thanks gentlemen....

The scout ship isn't really that small Jerry....   nose to wing tips probably fill out a 50 cent coin. I'm waiting on some supplies I ordered so I'll be painting/decaling that little "duck" soon.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: HDATX on March 28, 2013, 08:40:09 pm
Thanks gentlemen....

The scout ship isn't really that small Jerry....   nose to wing tips probably fill out a 50 cent coin. I'm waiting on some supplies I ordered so I'll be painting/decaling that little "duck" soon.

Oh, I see.  I really like this model.  The detail with the PE is going to really punch it up.  Can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 30, 2013, 02:48:55 pm
Fridays are my catch up on sleep day, but I did fiddle with this a bit last night...

Had to go back for a second round of squadron putty on my botched windows. The initial putty had sunk into the holes and was below the surface of the hull just enough to notice. They actually look much nicer now that I have them filled in...   LOL.

I had given the scout ship a flat white hull coat earlier in the week and added some racing stripes last night....  there's a lot of tiny detail painting to go on this thing. The decal sheet includes some windows for the front end, but they are black....  not sure I like that too much.

All of the remaining PE related to the hanger were cut off and test fitted....  really nice work by the folks at ParaGrafix.... everything fits like a glove. I've been trying to cut the PE off the fret really close to avoid as much filing as possible, but the initial cut to remove them sometimes bends the part slightly....  perhaps I should be cutting them as far away as I can to start with and then snip off the connector tab?

The tooling I ordered to re-cut my windows, and the last of the electronic components all showed up at the post office yesterday, so I have plenty to experiment with. The weather is really nice here now though so I need to be outside most of this weekend catching up on 2.5 acres of yard work....  blah!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 30, 2013, 04:16:28 pm
I put my largest (1/8) end mill into the dremel to confirm what I already knew and cut some slots to allow lighting the PE side wall windows....   now that's how to cut a slot!   ;D
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 31, 2013, 01:24:41 pm
Seeing that hanger bay, I'll definitely be splurging for the etch set when I tackle this one!
When you milled out the slots, did you run the part across a bed, or did you free hand it?  Slots look deadly!!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on March 31, 2013, 02:36:43 pm
I've had to admit to myself that I'm really not that good at free handing some of these small details, which is why I recently bought that Dremel work station....  I had to modify it slightly to accept my rotary tool which is actually a Black&Decker.

With the tool rotated to the horizontal position and lowered fully along the shaft, that still puts the cutter about 4" off the bench. So I just used two phone books as a platform and was able to slide the hanger on top of those by hand. This worked out very good as far as controlling the cut goes....  all the slots were milled in about a minute. (not including the slightly undersize pilot hole I had drilled at each slot end).

The pilot holes were not really needed to assist the end mill, because these cutters are designed to plunge and then mill sideways, but I could see that I would be looking at the inside wall as I was cutting the slots, so the drilled holes gave me a visual on where the slot ends.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on March 31, 2013, 06:14:41 pm
That's a clever technique wolf!  The results speak for themselves.  8)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: TrekWorks on March 31, 2013, 11:02:23 pm
Wow the cargo bay is fabulous! Man that is a nice PE set. You have done a great job putting it all in. I'm really liking the build.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: wolf 359 on April 01, 2013, 09:47:29 am
Yes the PE set make a big difference. Looking good.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 01, 2013, 03:11:34 pm
@ Boyd and Dave...   Yes, this PE stuff is really sweet. First time user so I was hesitant about spending so much on it but now I'm glad I bought it.

The photo's above are just a test fit, but even after just laying those 12 pieces in there the fit was so nice it does appear to be "installed".
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 01, 2013, 03:17:02 pm
Taped around the towers to keep things oriented while I toothpick glued a tiny bead of CA in the corners...  I'm hoping the paint will cover any light leak issues there.

Want to try and simulate some of the detail painting that Trekriffic did with his build, so I mask a side wall, used a toothpick again to define every edge, and then used a new blade to remove the unwanted mask. I want to try and save some of the brass for the finished assembly. If I don't like how this turns out I can always paint over it.

Some sloppy cuts in there, but as a whole I'm ok with it.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 01, 2013, 03:18:34 pm
Added a few minor details to the scout ship last night...    most of this work is done while looking through the Hubble telescope, so it's slow going.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 02, 2013, 07:21:26 am
I did absolutely nothing on this build tonight.....     but had a great time cruising the forum on what the rest of you are doing...... 

G'nite
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Prowler901 on April 02, 2013, 10:47:13 am
WOW Wolf!  This is looking fan-freaking-tastic! :)  Nice work with the improvised horizontal mill. :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Jimmypop57 on April 02, 2013, 12:42:32 pm
I have never seriously looked at this model before. Saw it numerous times and passed it by (little before my time). However this is making me rethink that, and to add it to my collection (not that I need more kits, I collect more than I can build). However seriously rethinking adding this kit to my stash. Thanks for all the updates, looking forward to seeing this.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: grantf on April 03, 2013, 07:17:59 pm
scout ship looks great. Fine detail work.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 04, 2013, 06:47:13 am
@Prowler.....   Thanks bud. I'm a machinist by trade so the "milling plastic" approach just seemed the natural way to go.

@Jimmy....    Of course everyone has their own opinion of what a nice kit/build would be, but this little ship belongs in every sci-fi stash..... IMHO. Before news of the re-issue was leaked, I saw auctions for sealed originals going for up to $500! Now you can add it to your hidy hole for much less....   :b

@Grant....    You are being too kind Sir....  because you have no clue how much I cheat!   LOL. I started detailing the scout ship AFTER taking a junk piece of styrene and drawing on it with pencils, color pencils, and some felt markers, and then spraying it with Rustoleum Matte Clear. (Maybe I should have included lipstick or chalk too?) No brush in my arsenal fits so well into my pencil sharpener, and the many "oops" wash right off.  8)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Prowler901 on April 04, 2013, 09:45:15 am
Cool!  I'm just an amateur "hobby machinist".  I have a mini-mill and mini-lathe in my shop.  Currently working on a 3/4" scale live steam locomotive.

Keep up the great work here.  Can't wait to see your final results. :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: luminous on April 04, 2013, 01:42:39 pm
This is such a cool model , your doing a top job on her too . Brilliant work sir.
Cheers
Ollie
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 10, 2013, 07:39:32 am
Thank you Ollie.....  no time it seems recently for my hobby though....   just managed to get some minor painting done tonight after about a week of not even touching it....

"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"

My computer started crashing big time and frequently this last week.....   I do believe we'll be going for the big "format c:/mbr" this weekend.....   joy
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 11, 2013, 06:43:45 am
Thanks for that input Ernest.....  but if WinXP has a /U switch available for format it's not documented in my help file. I used the /mbr switch once a long time ago (which doesn't appear as and XP option either) because a tech told me it was the only way to remove an overlay I had installed....  which it did. (DOS 6 or 6.2 at the time).

Come to think of it, if I wanted to completely wipe a drive wouldn't I be best off to run Fdisk and just delete the entire partition?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 12, 2013, 09:48:00 am
Sorry about the lack of updates....  I feel worse about that than all of you combined....  cuz I really wish I could do this more....

Did continue masking/cutting/painting all the PE interior walls of the hanger deck as time allowed....     I started by masking the whole piece and carefully cutting along the edges of every indented feature. Then I removed all the "high" mask and primed the part.

Then I had a change of heart and decided that I didn't want the recessed features where windows were present to be the original brass color, so I mask again to protect everything else and sprayed those window "holes" with royal blue.

Last, I just had to tape off the control towers a bit and include the 4 other roll doors on the paint table to spray those metallic aluminum. (I was seriously looking at a semi-gloss bright yellow for these last 6 areas, but I thought that would be a bit over....   I'm happy with the aluminum now).
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 12, 2013, 09:57:25 am
Having already done some tests with how CA glue adheres to painted surfaces, I also primed the interior of the hanger part...   then of course I had to put all the PE back in there to see how it looked.....

Eventually, I'm planning on the hanger floor being blinding white......  I think this will be acceptable....

Still need to fix a few "holes" where I took out original hanger features.....   doh
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 12, 2013, 10:04:04 am
Next I'll be taping all those interior walls again, but this time it will be to fill from the back side with canopy glue to do my first window experiment.....    if you don't like that... well, I'll just close the hanger door!

I also have some isolated light boxes in the works to attach to the outer hanger walls so I can make the windows controlled colors.....     but that's a whole other post.....    all I know now after multiple tests to bond pvc pipe with styrene plastic is that I LOVE GORILLA GLUE!!!!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Prowler901 on April 12, 2013, 11:00:09 am
Lookin' better 'n better, Wolf!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: grantf on April 12, 2013, 06:22:17 pm
What! no basketball court?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Wolf Star on April 12, 2013, 07:07:13 pm
Very cool!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 16, 2013, 06:37:55 am
Latest update from the ole "molasses running up hill" shipyard.....   had a few setbacks but some progress too...

Wasted way too much time trying to build my little light boxes for the hanger exterior. Want to attach these so I can make the windows on the hanger interior different colors, which I think would look kinda cool. I had some PVC tube that was just the right size so I cut those up and then cut some styrene to glue on the ends, but after about 8 different types of adhesive (including 2 plumbing products) nothing worked....  :*(

There was one point were I thought Gorilla glue saved me, but the next day I dropped one of those a short distance and it promptly fell apart......    no more PVC for me unless I use nuts and bolts at every joint!

Then I went back to the main hull windows to re-cut my earlier patched up holes.....   this worked out pretty good. I used the same "horizontal mill" method as I had with the hanger slots. Unfortunately though, on 2 or 3 windows some chunks of the squadron putty chipped away too in the process....    not sure if I'll putty those eye sores and mill them out again, enlarge them into "observation" type windows, or just leave them as is.

Another item I'm still not managing to work out deals with trying to put some canopy glue into the window holes of the hanger PE sides. The PE is very thin, so I figured I would need to tape up the back side, and then drip the glue in and wipe it flush....   but I've tried a few different tapes now and the canopy glue sticks to those way too good!!!   LOL   (anyone got any PVC tape?)    LOL
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 16, 2013, 06:42:18 am
Oh....  and BTW Grant, never been a big basketball fan, but the court lines look an awful lot like a soccer field too...     :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 16, 2013, 06:55:09 am
Oh man......   a brick just fell from the Ort cloud and smacked me good.....   I'm just gonna put some scotch tape behind those PE sides and drop the glue in there and then I won't care if the glue sticks to the tape...

Thank You Model Fairy...  Thank You
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: wolf 359 on April 16, 2013, 10:17:52 am
Looking good Im wolf!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Harvey (illogical models) cogar on April 16, 2013, 12:56:42 pm
lookin pretty sharp
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: grantf on April 16, 2013, 10:05:43 pm
Hockey rink?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 16, 2013, 11:47:51 pm
Thanks for the kind words guys.... :b  Wish I had more time to spend at this....

Hockey rink or soccer field....   either goal would be an easy build compared to a 1/500 scale hoop!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on June 06, 2013, 05:45:21 pm
Anything bangin' on this one Wolf??
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 07, 2013, 01:25:17 am
Hey Jeff....   Nice to hear from you again.

I had to take an extended break from this project to deal with more issues than I care to remember right now....

When I looked back at it about 3 weekends ago I realized I needed to take a crash course in electronics to complete a lighting aspect I want....   I hope to have my first PCB finished this weekend.

Wolf
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on June 08, 2013, 09:00:58 pm
COOL!  Look forward to seeing what you have up your sleeve! :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 13, 2013, 03:31:03 pm
Got an update......   of sorts.....     :b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLNzhIcpW8E&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: xray on June 13, 2013, 04:41:25 pm
 :o Nice I like it.
Scott
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 14, 2013, 06:05:34 am
Thanx Scott.....   the only reason I went ahead with building the circuit board is because I had already bought all the parts and invested so much time towards that scheme.....   along the way though I was taught how to make the same thing probably half the size, less voltage, and between 1/3 and 1/4 the parts.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on July 31, 2013, 12:57:52 pm
Still off working on the electronics end of this kit.....   built a second circuit board for my hanger lighting effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9JNm3pEzk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Sam on July 31, 2013, 01:01:32 pm
Looking good so far.  Can't wait to see it finished!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: cryogenic-death on July 31, 2013, 10:35:05 pm
First...building to Pink Floyd...its my second favorite thing to listen to while on the bench.  ;)

I think the boards look great and when installed on the model...gonna look fantastic.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on August 02, 2013, 06:45:20 am
Looking good so far.  Can't wait to see it finished!

You and I both Sam....   been side tracked with "wiring" for way too long!     :*(
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on August 02, 2013, 07:04:31 am
First...building to Pink Floyd...its my second favorite thing to listen to while on the bench.  ;)

I think the boards look great and when installed on the model...gonna look fantastic.

Allrighty Cryo.....   I'll just take a wild guess at what must be your first favorite thing to listen to while "on the bench".

Could it possibly be the screams coming from one of those red shirt, expendable federation types (Who was born in a house full of pain,Who was trained not to spit in the fan,Who was told what to do by the man,Who was broken by trained personnel,Who was fitted with collar and chain,Who was given a pat on the back,Who was breaking away from the pack,Who was only a stranger at home,Who was ground down in the end,Who was found dead on the phone,Who was dragged down by the stone), as you turn them into weird geometric shapes and listen to the crunching sound of your fingers crumbling them into little itty bitty pieces of red shirt expendable salt chunks hitting your bench!

Am I close?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Splat on August 02, 2013, 05:54:25 pm
I built one of these as a kid.  she didn't look nothing like this!  VERY nice.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: cryogenic-death on August 02, 2013, 11:49:04 pm
Allrighty Cryo.....   I'll just take a wild guess at what must be your first favorite thing to listen to while "on the bench".

Could it possibly be the screams coming from one of those red shirt, expendable federation types (Who was born in a house full of pain,Who was trained not to spit in the fan,Who was told what to do by the man,Who was broken by trained personnel,Who was fitted with collar and chain,Who was given a pat on the back,Who was breaking away from the pack,Who was only a stranger at home,Who was ground down in the end,Who was found dead on the phone,Who was dragged down by the stone), as you turn them into weird geometric shapes and listen to the crunching sound of your fingers crumbling them into little itty bitty pieces of red shirt expendable salt chunks hitting your bench!


Am I close?

HAHAHA...close.

Its actually listening to the soundtracks to the Trek movies...Wrath Of Khan being my favorite.

DOGS is my favorite Pink Floyd song...and that last part of the song...really good stuff.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on September 05, 2013, 01:43:04 pm
Hey kids....  had to go ahead and build one last PCB for lighting up this hanger deck, and I really like the effect of this 3rd copy. Now I'm gonna get away from playing with IC's and get back to the actual model kit.  :b


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKM7KxSHdg8
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:03:25 am
Dusted this thing off last weekend and started back in with some details....

First off, since I had built a circuit board I like for the hanger deck "X" landing target lights, I drilled the holes in the hanger bottom and the PE floor piece. The 4 "X" legs will light up from the corners towards center with the 7 blue illuminators, and then the 4 extra off-set holes will blink red.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:14:16 am
Drilled as big a hole as I could get away with through the center of the conning tower fin piece.....   this should help light up those few top windows....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:17:01 am
Should have done this long ago, but finally rolled up some tin foil and glued them into the long corners of the PE hanger deck control towers.....   (I'm sure there would be light leak w/o this little add on).
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:21:11 am
Even though I had wasted much effort previously working with PVC tubing, I still wanted some light boxes for around the hanger deck to isolate window lighting/colors.....  Found a piece of kinda U shaped plastic edging out in the garage and ended up with much better results....   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:28:34 am
From the word go I always had some reservations about my choice for the replacement sliding hanger doors....  Even at 1/64 thick, I wasn't really sure that the plastic would bend enough to move freely around the inner hull and clear everything else too.....  So I had to build new doors.

Using Gorilla glue, I attached .015 x .100 strips (Evergreen) to a chunk of .002 steel shim stock. This was flat of course, but I didn't take photos until after I had wrapped them around my hobby knife handle to test things out.

These doors are almost as flexible as an old roll top desk top and will do just fine!    :b

(Still need to separate the two doors and add some stop strips)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:35:50 am
Saturday night I tackled another detail which I had been dreading from day one..... cutting out the impulse engine openings at the aft end of the upper hull. The plastic is very very thick right there!!!

Swinging the dremel tool around so it just over hung my bench, I roughed them out by free hand plunging and milling around with a 1/16 Dia. end mill.

(I was hoping I could get very close to finish with this same tool, but the setup was not steady enough.)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 12:39:41 am
Thought I could finish these opening with files, but my assortment of files didn't help a whole lot....  ended up pretty much carving them to final size with a sharp blade....

The whole process took less than an hour......  but I'm happy it's behind me just the same!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: luminous on October 28, 2013, 04:41:14 am
You've totally nailed those impulse openings . the lengths you go to on builds is inspiring thanks for sharing pal.
ollie
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 28, 2013, 02:34:53 pm
Thanks for the input Ollie.....   much appreciated.

I do seem to have my share of "oops" moments here, so a small string of successes does feel good.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 06, 2013, 08:13:30 am
Oh boy.....   another OOPS moment.....    played around with my new hanger doors Friday night just to make sure all was good.....   the plastic strips started popping loose!!!   Gorilla Glue ("for the worlds toughest jobs") does not adhere to styrene!!!   I cried for a long time    :*(      (But not as long as it took me to build those darn things).

Eventually I rose to my knees and went to work on a new idea.....   (I really don't want to use those stock "swinging bar doors" on this.)....  The new idea wasn't all that.....  That's when I discovered I didn't have any hot water in the house. I got to play hot water heater repair man half the day Saturday.....

If any of you scratch build guys need a dead water heater for that special project, just let me know.......  you just pay shipping.....    :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 16, 2013, 07:08:42 pm
Plodding along.....

Made the impulse engine covers out of 1/8" plexiglass, and glued some nylon screen mesh to the inner surface. Instead of trying to match the contour of the engine cut-outs exactly, these are larger and will just be glued to the inner hull.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 16, 2013, 07:11:30 pm
The impulse engine light boxes were built out of 1/16" and 1/64" styrene...  the end hole will accept a 3mm LED.

The boxes will glue to the sides of the covers as well as to the inner hull sides.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 16, 2013, 07:15:12 pm
The aft end of the ship will also serve as the battery compartment, so I needed some modifications there.

I removed the back wall of the lower hull leaving only about a 1/16" high ridge off the bottom surface.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 16, 2013, 07:20:07 pm
The end panel always had issues as produced, but not quite so bad any more. I added 1/16" side walls to the upper half which took care of the light leak issue and locks the panel into position much nicer. Then a spring clip of sorts was fashioned out of styrene and some old spruce material to lock the panel into place at the bottom ridge.

The end result fit is very snug....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 17, 2013, 02:20:30 am
Since I had no luck with replacement hanger doors, I'm gonna force the original 1/64" styrene doors to work for me....   These "jaws" were cut out of a single piece to make sure the zig-zag contour matched up exactly on both sides.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 17, 2013, 02:23:27 am
The jaws were then glued to the door edges one at a time (while temporarily having the doors butted together) to try and get the best alignment..... worked out alright.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 17, 2013, 02:25:26 am
Just a few more details and I'll be ready to start painting....    gonna try priming and final coating as much as possible b4 assembly this time around.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 26, 2013, 03:59:21 pm
This doesn't seem to be a very popular build here, but I'll keep posting as I go just the same....

All I managed to do recently was some finishing touches on the conning tower/bridge section and the nose cone/shield piece. Also, the JT-graphics PE hatches were added.

These hatches did not come with a placement guide, but by studying 3rd party decal sheets I was able to resolve where others thought the hatches belong....    I deviated slightly from those guides and opted to put two hatches farther back and on the upper deck window level.

The two smallest hatches have a window slot in them, so I had to cut through the hull at those locations to allow lighting of the hatch windows.

Also worth mentioning perhaps is a technique I taught myself on how to attach these small parts. As some of you may know, the CA gluing process is pretty much done in a heart beat leaving no time at all to correct a misplaced alignment. So I layed the PE hatch into position, and then taped over it with a long thin strip of painter tape. After peeling half the tape back (along with the attached PE hatch) a few times, and then back onto the model, I was confident I could quickly position the glued part exactly where it should go.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 26, 2013, 04:03:05 pm
The above photos might not be too great showing this, but an aft view port along with a larger forward observation window were also added to the conning tower.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 26, 2013, 04:09:34 pm
As Trekriffic discovered with his build, the nose cone on this kit also had some issues....  namely being the large gaps between the inner ribs of the cone and the hull. I glued on some 1/2" long pieces of 1/64" styrene to help minimize this. Unfortunately the ribs are not concentric to the hull, so this was only a 90% improvement....  but it looks much better than "as cast".

Also, the swept back leg ends of the nose piece on this kit were at different lengths to the point it was very obvious, so they had to be trimmed down all to the shortest leg as supplied.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 26, 2013, 04:31:36 pm
Holes were also drilled to accept 3mm LED's to light the conning tower, and larger holes top and bottom at the aft hull for lighting switches.

The push button switches I'll be using are not exactly "authentic", but then, this ship has never been shown on film so there is no authentic representation of it.....   and the switches actually don't look far off from what one might expect to see as normal outer hull mechanisms.

I really do like Trekriffic's approach to the main window lighting on this kit using a single bulb/reflector, and I'm going to copy his work there. As far as the conning tower goes though, I didn't want to carve out the entire hull wall at that area so I'll be using a couple of LED's instead.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 26, 2013, 04:38:16 pm
A few more pic's with one of the previously mentioned switches in place.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: supercharger on November 26, 2013, 09:46:29 pm
Looking good! Can't wait to see this one all lit up. Nice work.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 27, 2013, 08:05:14 pm
Looking good! Can't wait to see this one all lit up. Nice work.

You and I both Supercharger.....  and thanx for the compliments....

I'm supposed to be painting right now, but I happened upon a strange plan that might enhance the build a bit more..... so I'm playing with that instead. We'll see what happens.....  :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 04:23:15 am
Alright boys and girls......    I really wish there were more of you interested in this kit cuz I need a sanity check right about now.....  and any opinions would be appreciated!

Leif Ericson is pretty much half the length, width, and height of an Intrepid class ship, so I figured if Janeway can land in my backyard, I should be able to do that too....

It occurred to me while I was making coffee the other day and studying the cap of my creamer jug..... which has a hinged flip lid.

With a coping saw and a rough sanding stick I quickly got rid of the unwanted portion of the cap....

But the test fit looked kinda bulky....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 04:29:14 am
Then I knocked off as much material as I could in back of the hinge, played with the shape a bit and drilled some holes.....   I also milled down the bottom side rounded hinge housing to make it sit flatter on the model...

Then I took some pics of how the rear landing gear might look in a couple different configurations both open and closed.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 04:30:31 am
Gear deployed.....   hinge near main hull.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 04:32:02 am
And with the hinges at stabilizer fins......
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 04:34:14 am
And in both configurations in the retracted position.....

What do you folks think?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Tankton on November 29, 2013, 04:53:59 pm
Cool Idea always thought these should have landing gear.
I like them with the hinge next to the hull. Would be easier
for the maintenance for the crews. More protected than if they
were out by the wing.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on November 29, 2013, 07:20:12 pm
Cool Idea always thought these should have landing gear.
I like them with the hinge next to the hull. Would be easier
for the maintenance for the crews. More protected than if they
were out by the wing.

Thanks for the input Tankton.....   I'm gravitating towards that configuration as well. The only other technical issue is how the gear housing might be in the way of the ion engine output.....    I'm considering trimming it down a tad smaller, and then carving a hole for it all the way thru the lower wing to reduce the profile of it that much more.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Tankton on November 29, 2013, 11:43:36 pm
Yes a lower profile would also look better.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: MarkW on November 30, 2013, 07:09:43 pm
I like the hinge line closer to the hull too.

A few questions...that type of plastic usually takes paint like crap.  Have you come up with something that will stick to it?

Is there supposed to be any structure like a landing gear bay there?  It's awfully thin along the wing.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on December 01, 2013, 02:05:32 am
I like the hinge line closer to the hull too.

A few questions...that type of plastic usually takes paint like crap.  Have you come up with something that will stick to it?

Is there supposed to be any structure like a landing gear bay there?  It's awfully thin along the wing.

Good Q's Mark....

There's no air brush on my bench (yet?), but I did do a paint test with some Ace shake'n'spray dark gray primer....  one quick coat seemed to work just fine.

I had also performed a glue test.....   the stock Testors model cement didn't work out. Then I tried some Insta-Cure CA glue and that bond was rock solid.

You're right about those fins being pretty thin.....  1/8" when assembled. My plan is to putty/patch at the seam so that the housing appears to be an extension out of the main hull just to make it look more technically legitimate. My other option would have been to have the rear gear extend out of the main hull somehow, but the contour of the lower hull made that option a real pain in the butt no matter how I looked at it.

Thanks for asking...     :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on December 03, 2013, 08:03:42 pm
Very clever mods and scratching on this wolf!

My first reaction to the gear door question (before I read other folks thoughts) was hinge inboard.

That tip for installing the etch is pure genius!!  I'll be using that technique for sure!!

This project is shaping up beautifully wolf!  Keep up the fine job! 
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: jmilesmusicman on December 04, 2013, 12:50:53 am
This is really coming along. For a not-so-spectacular model you are really making it look great. When I built mine as a kid, I think I played with the little pirate shuttle more than the model itself. Keep up the great work!

PS - I agree with Tankton on the flush landing gear as well ;)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on December 04, 2013, 06:35:56 am
Very clever mods and scratching on this wolf!

My first reaction to the gear door question (before I read other folks thoughts) was hinge inboard.

That tip for installing the etch is pure genius!!  I'll be using that technique for sure!!

This project is shaping up beautifully wolf!  Keep up the fine job!

That's 3 "Thank You's" for your kind words Jeff.....  Sometimes I wish I had just built this thing out of the box though cuz all these new ideas that pop into my head sure are dragging this build out!!

I'd love to see more of your work.....  watcha up to lately?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on December 04, 2013, 06:41:12 am
This is really coming along. For a not-so-spectacular model you are really making it look great. When I built mine as a kid, I think I played with the little pirate shuttle more than the model itself. Keep up the great work!

PS - I agree with Tankton on the flush landing gear as well ;)

Thank You MusicMan.....    I always thought this model kit was a bit under rated, but of course opinions vary.

As I recall, the one I had built as a kid some 40 years ago met a strange demise involving a firecracker that had somehow been smuggled into the hanger bay!

:b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on December 04, 2013, 06:59:00 am
Very clever mods and scratching on this wolf!

My first reaction to the gear door question (before I read other folks thoughts) was hinge inboard.

That tip for installing the etch is pure genius!!  I'll be using that technique for sure!!

This project is shaping up beautifully wolf!  Keep up the fine job!



That's 3 "Thank You's" for your kind words Jeff.....  Sometimes I wish I had just built this thing out of the box though cuz all these new ideas that pop into my head sure are dragging this build out!!

I'd love to see more of your work.....  watcha up to lately?


Cheers Bud!  I will be resurecting my 1/537 refit thread here pretty soon.  I plan to get back to the modeling bench over the holiday season!  :)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: trekriffic on January 23, 2014, 12:03:31 pm
You are really taking this kit to the next level with your clever modifications. Really looking forward to seeing the hangar bay lighting in operation.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 23, 2014, 03:09:04 pm
You are really taking this kit to the next level with your clever modifications. Really looking forward to seeing the hangar bay lighting in operation.

Thanks bud. Don't let this go to your head, but it was your build that actually inspired me to be more creative. Originally, I was planning on just a little lighting added to an out of the box build....  then Jeff showed me your build log.

Jeff is a very evil man and I know he did this on purpose!!! But I will have the last laugh here since I know he also wants to build an LE, and now he'll have to install real ion engines, servo motors, along with 1/500 scale land rovers that drive out the back door!    LOL

I'm close to completing my landing gear.....  "pictures at eleven"?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 10:58:31 pm
Landing gear diversion is now complete.......  even if you don't agree!

Forward neck end of ship does (did) have a strange outline of where something might belong.....  looked good enough to me. Had some styrene sheet, tube, rod... and a 3cc syringe on hand, so I made a CAD sketch of what might happen....

Then that "what ever" was chopped out of there.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:02:52 pm
Project actually went quite well.....  built some iddy biddy gear housing, dirt pod, connecting rods..... etc.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:08:51 pm
BTW....  if you wanna match up your scratch built job to another existing contour..... here's one way to try it...

I laid my sand paper (emery cloth) to the inner hull, and pressed the matching piece down on that to sand the matching shape......   made for a nice fit this time.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:19:37 pm
The bottom "foot" piece fit very tightly into the hull cut out, so I taped it in place to position the upper housing and the gear tubes.....  and then I used that dry assembly to make sure the foot piece was all aligned best as could be...

(used a lot of CA glue here)

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:31:57 pm
Even after I chopped more off the rear landing gear, I'm still not over joyed with it...... it's kinda bulky. Didn't want to cut out the lower wing and put it in there.....    I was considering starting over on that when I had a magic moment!

I grabbed more CA glue and planted them! Then I grabbed some of that Ambroid ProWeld and did the seams....   now I am literally "stuck" with them!

The fake hydraulic cylinders are just some soldered wires.....   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:35:17 pm
Of course.....    I had to assemble some stuff to do a landing gear test.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 25, 2014, 11:38:28 pm
This bad boy is gonna rock hard as it sits on top of my K-Horn jammin on By-Tor and the Snow Dog!!!

Yeah!!!!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Tankton on January 25, 2014, 11:39:28 pm
This is looking great. The one I did as a kid didn't come close.
Good work.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: AnythingSciFi on January 26, 2014, 12:11:44 pm
Cool idea for the landing gear!
Maybe some pads on the rear gear might suffice!!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 26, 2014, 12:24:11 pm
Thanks guys....   I appreciate your kindness...

This is my second model build in about 30 years and it doesn't look like anything I did as a kid either. I'm having to re-learn everything I have forgotten, and also learn a lot of new things I never tried b4...  some of it is working out.....  :b

Wolf
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 29, 2014, 01:37:00 pm
This week started out lousy to say the least....   I buried my best friend Rufus. He was a 10yo Great Pyrenees and my house feels so empty now...    :*(

Rufus was large and intimidating to some....  until they got to know him. I've never had a gentler, more playful buddy. Until I make it to the stars to see him again, he will be sorely missed.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: fumblethumbs on January 29, 2014, 04:57:58 pm
Very sorry to hear about the loss of your Pal Rufus.  My sympathies to you and your family.
 :(

Take care.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: jmilesmusicman on February 01, 2014, 12:46:33 pm
So sorry to hear about your loss. Pets make their way into our hearts so completely, don't they? As they say - "better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all". My thoughts go out to you and your family.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: billski on February 01, 2014, 01:48:22 pm
Sorry to hear about your dear pal Rufus, may all your memories be happy ones
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on February 01, 2014, 02:24:58 pm
Thanks for the sentiments guys....

I'm starting to question whether it was appropriate for me to post on that matter here...   not really a modeling subject....   we all have our own great losses eventually....

I'll try to stay on topic here.

Wolf
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 04:52:47 pm
Got into a blow-out with the girlfriend....  (all my fault of course). No steamy e-mails....  no extended phone calls......

Gave me some time to dust off this build.....  (yes, it was dusty).

Started off taping and red putty around those rear landing gear housings....   Tried with a shaped stick as Jmar had suggested....   ended up just giving it the finger mostly.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 04:59:37 pm
Spent much more time than expected sanding (and building strange sanding tools) to go around all these nooks and crannies....   looks ok for now but won't know till I get some primer on it.

Did you notice the little holes on the outer hull? Decided that since we have landing gear, we're gonna need some landing floods....    (some thrusters wouldn't hurt either.)

I'll stick some 1.8mm LED's in the flood light holes and try some canopy glue on them after paint. (Drilled 3 more flood light holes at the FWD end.)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
Bottom stabilizer fins seemed like the right place to put the aft thrusters, so I carved out some slots as deep as my red CD jewel case and drilled some holes....

Decided to put the fwd thruster in between the vent grids under the neck.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 05:15:22 pm
Cut some too wide chunks of jewel case and CA glued those in place aft.....   at the front end I sanded the red case piece into a finished shape.

There was quite a bit of over-hang to deal with aft....   I cut a chunk of .005 steel shim to protect the plastic hull as I rough and finish file/sanded the sides of the jewel case over-hang flush to the angled hull sides.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 05:20:01 pm
In the end, I want only the most bottom surface to be exposed as a thruster, so I taped/puttied around those aft end pieces....  and sanded again. Came out fairly decent I think....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 05:22:55 pm
Also built some light boxes for inside the lower hull to isolate some red LED's for the thrusters.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 18, 2014, 05:40:24 pm
For a while now I've been re-evaluating my original lighting plan which was to only use 2 push button switches.....   I'm not liking this any more since introducing all these other elements.

Eventually I'll have the window/running lights that I always want illuminated, but then I want to add to that with either;

1) Ion engines
2) Impulse engines
3) Landing thrusters and floods
(but not more than one of these at a time)

The hanger bay lighting will be on a different voltage and circuit so that will be a separate switch.

So I bought this little rotary switch that will do the trick. If I mount the switch at the aft end where my battery pack will be, I might run short on real estate though, so I'm playing with the idea of putting it up front and making the nose cone a switching knob.

The kit does come with this chrome nose piece which I really don't care for or was planning on using, but it would make a handy little knob.....    gonna have to think on this a bit longer.

Thanks for peeking.....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: MarkW on April 19, 2014, 06:30:54 am
Wow, some blowout indeed to get this much done.  Sorry for that. 

The rotary switch...is it multiposition?  Or is it just on/off?  I'm assuming Multi to get all those effects you want done.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on April 19, 2014, 09:32:23 am
The rotary switch has 2 poles and 5 positions, so I can use one pole to keep the windows/nav lights constant. I'll use the other pole for either the Ions, Impulse, or landing cycle lights.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 04:48:01 am
Long time no update......   but I have been tinkering with this kit over the past few weekends, so here's the story.....

First off I needed to backtrack and make sure I wasn't working myself into a corner...  which I was. Only basic change was I realized I needed to mount the hanger deck target PCB in a vertical position...... not a prob.

Along the way I found someones sketch of the ship online and imported it into MS-paint to create a simple wiring diagram.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 04:50:27 am
Then I decided to proceed with the forward end switch knob modification.........   The stock part has a hub in the center that I had to save, while chopping off the end for a switch knob, so I filled it with resin and then some canopy glue to smooth it over. (it actually looks better than these pic's).

Along the way though, as the resin hardened it did distort the plastic a bit.....    the end of the cone became a bit ugly. No worries though cuz I already figured I would have to replace that end piece anyway.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 04:52:23 am
Next up was work on the hanger deck.....      starting with another test fit to make sure sliding doors would work out and checking clearance all around......       I didn't take a lot of photo's here.....      Had decided though that in case I run into prob's with diff color LED's, maybe I should use some clear tape and felt pen color on some windows of the side walls......
(this did pay off later)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 04:56:05 am
Wondering aimlessly as I do sometimes, I thought now would be a good time to make sure my little 3V battery (s) would actually light up all this stuff I added....... two bread boards later I was happy. Then I switched power to an AC source and let it all run over night to weed out any bad eggs...... 
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 04:59:17 am
Then I had to do the dreaded solder job I had been avoiding........   the damn switch. I should have done this sooner cuz much depends on my not destroying it in the process.......      Initial solder was all good, but I kept tearing things up as I tested it against the bread board circits.....    then budz here steered me toward this stuff called "liquid tape", and all was good to go!

(I had ordered some variety color wire to do the switch, but got tired of waiting, so I spray painted what I had on hand.....   all held up good except the gold......    guess I'm not supposed to have gold?)
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:02:27 am
So next up was back to finalize the hanger deck (outer lighting). I glued on all the light boxes I had made, plugged in the LED's, and soldered that all up.....     Not sure why these photo's look so bland....    some of them were taken in complete darkness and that little hanger looks great!!   I guess my camera skills are about the same as my modeling skills?

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:05:04 am
More hanger shots......
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:07:56 am
Set my sights back on that forward switch knob.......     My smallest hole saw produced almost a perfect part off the bat.....   just had to put a bolt and nut through it and sand it down a bit to fit in the designated spot......  This is the rotary switch mounting plate. Since it will cut off light to the forward section per my original plan, I had to add some LED holes on either side and a wire access hole on the top side.

BTW: I melted a chuck of paper clip into the plastic too......  this is the anti-rotation stop for the small flats on the switch shaft......   That went quite well.    :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:09:59 am
Then comes the fun part......   I chopped the top of the nose cone off. Everybody should do this...... just get out your model and take a saw to it......   lot's of fun!!!

Along the way I had to drill a 1/8 hole right down the center of the existing 3/16 hub...... To make sure I got it right I actually made a drill guide for this.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:12:22 am
After this stuff was behind me, then all I had to do was make a connector shaft (a nail in this case), machine a coupling with a 1/32 cross drive and two set screws, and of course a new aluminum nose cone....

This entire switch mount/knob modification turned out great....  I'm pleasantly surprised at the results.   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 05:15:30 am
I'd love to start painting on this tomorrow, but I still have few issues to resolve.......   one of which includes attaching the ion engines to the side of the hull during assembly. I really don't want to deal with tons of wire or solder at this point, and I want to figure out a way to have pre-built connections in place so I just add glue and slip them in place......      I'm open to any suggestions.......

Thanks for peeking in.........
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: MarkW on June 02, 2014, 08:18:47 am
Liquid tape...not just for breakfast anymore.  If you've been following TK's Reliant build, you can also use the stuff to glue down your wiring harnesses instead of hot glue or CA, and it works like a charm. 

Any chance of saving the nose cone?  You mentioned you had an alternative ready to go.

Out of curiosity, why a 6 and 3V circuit?  Why not just toss in a resistor and keep it all the same?  I had the same decision point on my refit build, and ultimately went the single volt route.

I'm also a big fan of white bulbs only in a build.  That's why the good Lord invented color markers, Tamiya clear, etc.  A white LED dipped in red clear looks just like red LED, and white light shining through a red window does the same.

I also like the idea of laying out your wiring on the schematic.  I just started doing that on hard copies myself a week or so ago, and it really helps point out trouble areas.

You are using standard wire, not magnet wire, right?  I don't have a sense for the internal layout, but it looks like you have decent room for placing wires.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on June 02, 2014, 01:00:10 pm
Liquid tape...not just for breakfast anymore.  If you've been following TK's Reliant build, you can also use the stuff to glue down your wiring harnesses instead of hot glue or CA, and it works like a charm.

Any chance of saving the nose cone?  You mentioned you had an alternative ready to go.

Out of curiosity, why a 6 and 3V circuit?  Why not just toss in a resistor and keep it all the same?  I had the same decision point on my refit build, and ultimately went the single volt route.

I'm also a big fan of white bulbs only in a build.  That's why the good Lord invented color markers, Tamiya clear, etc.  A white LED dipped in red clear looks just like red LED, and white light shining through a red window does the same.

I also like the idea of laying out your wiring on the schematic.  I just started doing that on hard copies myself a week or so ago, and it really helps point out trouble areas.

You are using standard wire, not magnet wire, right?  I don't have a sense for the internal layout, but it looks like you have decent room for placing wires.

Yes I'm looking in on TK's build....   I haven't used the liquid tape as a glue yet, but I did smother the back end of the LED's around the hanger light boxes as it works great for extra light blocking.

Even if the epoxy had not distorted the original nose cone, I doubt it would have been strong enough to use as a switch knob. So I had already planned to make the aluminum replacement.

All the lighting will run off 3V batteries, but there will also be a PCB for a "landing target" effect on the hanger deck floor.....   that PCB needs 6V.

I agree Mark..... from here on I think my LED shopping will be leaning towards all whites and/or all in the 3V range.

The plan is to use various colored wire to differentiate the separate lighting systems. To try and keep things more realistic, all the lighting will not be on simultaneously. For instance, it doesn't make much sense to have the ion engines blasting away while the ship is in a landing cycle.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: RockyD88 on August 02, 2014, 01:53:42 am
I love this kit am planning on building one myself awesome job
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on August 02, 2014, 02:55:27 pm
I love this kit am planning on building one myself awesome job

Thanx Rocky....   I might actually have time to play with it this weekend....    (at the rate I'm going, you'll be done b4 me!).
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: AnythingSciFi on August 02, 2014, 04:34:02 pm
Really like that switch idea!!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on August 02, 2014, 10:33:32 pm
Really like that switch idea!!

Thanks Kenny......    it was a fun little side project in itself....    :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: RockyD88 on August 03, 2014, 12:36:13 am
don't count on it I start a ton of things but rarely finish them
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: jmilesmusicman on August 09, 2014, 12:30:53 pm
I'm liking the basketball court look of the hangar bay. Makes me want to pick up a Wii control and shoot a couple three-pointers! really liking this build, You've done a lot with a kit that is easy to just look at and build strictly OOB. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on August 09, 2014, 02:14:47 pm
Thanks for the kind words MrMusic.....  really appreciated!

Wish I had planned my work a little better instead of haphazardly adding things on the fly.....   but I think it'll all work out in the end.   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: supercharger on December 20, 2014, 02:11:02 pm
Nice work! Have you finished this yet? Have not been on here in a long time.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: AlW on December 21, 2014, 05:32:25 am
Yes, I too am interested in seeing this come together!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on December 21, 2014, 02:06:20 pm
Thanks for asking folks.....  Perhaps you'll give me some of that inspiration I need to pick this up again?

Sorry to disappoint, but a few months back I just got burned out on this build.....   It suddenly seemed like more of a chore than anything fun to do, so I packed it up in the box and there it's been sitting. Bad timing since I really don't have much left to do on it. Just waiting for that spark now.

I have some other kits I'd rather be working on, but unlike some of you I can't bring myself to start a new project with this one unfinished. So not to worry, soon enough I'll have to get the Leif polished off so I can move ahead.  :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on December 29, 2017, 02:40:17 am
Went through the stash tonight looking for some Bismarck repair parts, and found this box still near the top of the pile....

Ended up having to read my own thread to figure out where I was on this and then testing lighting and switches already assembled 3 years ago....    I think I'm in the mood to put this one together.

Not sure why I got into that whole sliding door mod, but prolly easier now to continue than un-engineer it?

It's been semi warm here lately, so hopefully I can get things cleaned up and primed before the new year.

If I hadn't blasted the speakers and knocked Mr. Bismarck off his perch the other night.....  well, who knows....  nothing happens by mistake?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 09, 2018, 02:37:00 pm
Minor update...

Looking closer at where I left this kit 2 years ago there were still some unresolved issues that entailed more hull work and such, so I held off on any painting just yet.

I was fiddling around with the placement of the PCB to target light the hanger deck, and when I got it where I needed it decided to attach it right there. Perhaps this was jumping the gun a bit so I'll have to protect it when I start painting. Along the way I also added some strip material to the inner hull to assist quickly placing the hanger where it needs to go.

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 09, 2018, 02:45:42 pm
Another issue was with the lighting switch which I never really cared for...   the hanger requires a 3V and a 6V supply and originally I was steering towards two separate switches on the upper and lower hull. Not very aesthetically pleasing, plus a small soldering nightmare, so I changed course towards a one switch method.

The tiny double pole single throw switches I ordered finally arrived so I reshaped the previous round hole for the push button switch into a rectangular shape for the new switch.... the fit is very good. I'm thinking that once it's all sanded even, puttied a bit at the seam and painted it'll be looking much nicer than a big push button knob sticking up. A painted stripe down the top might even totally disguise it as just more standard hull greeble?

That's it for now.....    next I wanna do something with that chrome sensor ball on the top of the conning tower.

Thanks for lookin in....
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: trekriffic on January 10, 2018, 11:59:02 am
Enjoying what you have done so far. This is going to be really special when you're done with it. Regarding the chrome ball on top of the "conning tower",  I didn't like it either when I built my Leif. Here's what I came up with...

The kit "ball" was stripped of its chrome plating. Then the top was sliced off and replaced with a faceted rhinestone:

https://flic.kr/p/Xom25h

I punched some small round masks and stuck them onto the slanted facets. Then I inserted small pins around the perimeter of the plastic part before priming. A piece of fiber was inserted up thru the mounting shaft to light up the round ports in the rhinestone after the masks were removed:

https://flic.kr/p/XqoT3r

Here's how it looks installed:

https://flic.kr/p/YrKC2B

Anyway, don't mean to commandeer your thread; just wanted to share what I had done. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.



Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 10, 2018, 01:25:11 pm
Enjoying what you have done so far. This is going to be really special when you're done with it.

Thanks Steve....   very kind words coming from you...

I did vaguely recall the mod's you made at that sensor dome, but I had forgotten you also lit it up.

For now I've already stripped the chrome off and I'm brainstorming....  I'm leaning toward putting some sort of little dish antenna on it.
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: trekriffic on January 10, 2018, 02:15:18 pm
For now I've already stripped the chrome off and I'm brainstorming....  I'm leaning toward putting some sort of little dish antenna on it.

Ooohhhh... A small dish would look great!
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on January 11, 2018, 07:58:14 am
Looking good, ImWolf!

Love your solution for the button!

Steady as she goes.

Steve
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 13, 2018, 11:31:49 pm
Thanks for the input Steve..... much appreciated.

It's slow going here at the ole Spanaway Ship Yards.....   (doing some interior house painting) But I did get most of my sensor dome modification done this evening.

Started by cutting off a chunk of 1 1/4" plastic pipe to about the right size. Then I put some pencil lines on it and started sanding with different grit of emery sticks to get an approximate oval dish. When my finger nails were all gone I called it done.

Also round filed a notch on the back to try and match the original dome shape. Then I cut a groove around that dome and drilled a hole through the center for some .75mm FO, and bent a piece of paperclip around a drill shank to match the above.

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on January 13, 2018, 11:36:44 pm
Then I carefully drilled two more holes through the face of the dish to match all of the above and did a test fit....

Looks about the same as my minds eye steered me towards. Next I think I'll paint these to final colors and assemble them. Then I can cut and bend the two paperclip ends inward and add some sort of reflector to finish it off.

As it turned out, the hole for the .75mm FO is interfered with by that stabilizer fin that runs through the side of the conning tower, and the FO needs to bend a bit....   which happens to be exactly where I drilled a hole for an LED to light the tower three years ago...

Sometimes ignorance is bliss?
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on February 02, 2018, 06:35:03 am
So busy with other things that I can barely look at this let alone progress too much, but I do have a minor update on the now complete antenna modification....

I painted the separate parts and glued them together. Then I bent the paperclip ends inwards to meet and then straight again after trimming them a bit shorter. Then I put a small piece of 3/32 styrene tube in boiling water so I could make it oval shaped and allow it to slip onto the two paperclip ends....

Just did some touch up paint which is still a bit glossy in the photos. (I'll add the .75 FO down the dome center b4 assembly).

I've also been going back and doing some "corrections" on previous steps....   didn't bother repeating the photo taking on these minor but time consuming little imperfections.

From way back, I've been toying the the idea of adding panel lines to the hull....   Next update should either be that or a paint job. If I even mention any more modifications to this project I want all the ppl who really love me to beat me senseless!!!



Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: MSgtUSAFRet on February 02, 2018, 07:02:49 am
Well done on the antenna, Wolf.

After a while, all the mods tend to slow progress but, in the end, you will be glad to did them!

Hang tough and stay at it.

Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on February 02, 2018, 07:37:31 am
Well done on the antenna, Wolf.

After a while, all the mods tend to slow progress but, in the end, you will be glad to did them!

Hang tough and stay at it.

Thanks Steve.....  Much appreciated....  now go back to work on that C....   :b
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Shawn McClure on October 25, 2018, 03:06:26 pm
Hey ImWolf,

Did you ever get this build finished?  I really want to see how it turned out.  I'm doing the Mystery Ship version with not nearly as much detail.

Shawn
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: ImWolf on October 26, 2018, 05:32:14 am
I'd like to see how it turns out too!!   LOL

No Shawn, it's still at 95% and holding.....   Had my sleeves all rolled up a while back and then Spring sprung....  at the moment most of my time is on a kitchen remodel.

Also, I admit I'm slightly timid about going ahead with the panel lines I plan on etching next....

If you posted your work on the UFO, please send me the link....  I'd love to check it out.

Wolf
Title: Re: Leif Ericson (1:500) AMT re-issue
Post by: Shawn McClure on October 26, 2018, 08:05:28 am
I do hope that someday you can get back to yours.  I totally get it though with the remodel.  I had to take a break from modeling for 2 years because of our house remodel.

Well... here's mine, but it pales compared to what you are doing on yours.

http://scifimodelaction.com/sfmaforum/index.php?topic=7592.msg96132#msg96132

Shawn