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Author Topic: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition  (Read 2142 times)

Offline Matt OBrien

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2017, 01:52:42 pm »
Thanks Kevin......you flatter me. I'm having an "Aw shucks" moment right now. To be honest, I just copy-cat most of the other builds I see and try to come close to what they've done. I have a 7X Opti-visor that helps me spot things that are out of whack before I call it good and move on to the next part.

The build that set me off down the path of "no return" was the one featured on it's own website......the lighted waterline model linked above. The guy that built that is not of this earth. The things he was able to do at 1/350 scale is mind blowing. Machine turned telegraphs and ship's bell?......I mean, c'mon!

It's easy to get sucked into doing heavy detailing and flaw corrections.....and before you know it, you're hundreds of dollars and hundreds of months deeper into the build. I'm glad you got a little inspiration from my build. I'm using yours to give me a swift kick in the rear to start back up. The problem I'm facing is correcting the 70-some deck and roof vents on the ship. Not a single one is correct and many are just plain missing.

Can't wait to see what you have to post next. I look forward to it!

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2017, 03:48:50 pm »
Those Titanic build links you posted are total eye-candy Matt....  Almost "suspended disbelief".

(That's when you see something you know is physically impossible, but there it is).

Thanks for posting   :b
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2017, 01:01:51 pm »
Kevin, I still think you are doing an awesome job on this build! You, sir, inspire me to think I can do a TOS 350 build, too! (If I get through all my Sci-Fi builds, I might consider some real life building!)

Keep it going! I love the window and light effects you have so far!

Matt, it's always a priviledge to meet "new" builders to the site! Can't cruise by your site, but it is on my "to-do" list!

Steady as she goes, Kevin!

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2017, 01:26:49 pm »
OK well it's time for a quick update folks.
  I'm on vacation this week so I'm hoping to get some good size chunks of time to work on my model, so here we go.

First however, I have to kick myself in the arse. :-[

After reading the encouraging post from Matt and seeing the outstanding quality of work that he has put into his build so far (not to mention the one that the other fellow Art did) I had a look at what I was doing and had done so far .... and I realized that I really need to kick my game up several notches. I know I simply don't have the talent to approach their level, but I can do better than what I've been doing.

There is simply no excuse for what I see of the seams on the corners of these rooms in this picture.....
044 windows 1 by Kev C, on Flickr

I know how to putty and sand seams to make them invisible ... so why didn't I do it for these? Laziness? Just didn't think of it? Dunno ....
Yes I'm zoomed in huge on this shot and they're barely noticeable when looking at it from any distance, but I can do better than that. I will try and fix these up a bit but they are already glued to the ship so I'm limited in what I can do for these. However, there will be no more seams looking like this!  There are also other things that I need to improve on, so it's time to suck it up and get to it! 8)

Thanks Matt for (unknowingly) kicking me in the pants!  ;)

So...onwards and upwards ....

The rooms on the side of the ship at this level can have some detail put in that can be visible from the outside. However, the back walls prevent the light of the strip LED's from getting to them. They are too dark.
047 Side room lighting 1 by Kev C, on Flickr
048 side room lighting 2 by Kev C, on Flickr

I toyed with a couple ideas and decided that probably the best way to get those rooms lit will be with a couple SMD's on the 'ceiling' in the rooms. As a test I taped three of them in the right spots and lit them up. I discovered that they were way too bright so I added some resistance to them and that dimmed them down to a nice level.
049 side room lighting 3 by Kev C, on Flickr
050 side room lighting 4 by Kev C, on Flickr

The room does seem a bit overexposed in the picture, but in real life it's nice.
Now I just have to decide the amount of detail I'll realistically be able to put into these side rooms.

Next up I started working on the long first class promenade walls. They have got all kinds and flavours of windows in them. Most of them have 'frames' molded into them. In order to use the nice photo etch ones in their place, they have to come out....  :o
051 cleaning out windows 1 by Kev C, on Flickr

In the above picture in the circle is the original window on the left and the one that I've cleaned out on the right. It's not a hugely difficult thing to do but it's time consuming. Yup, I need to confront that nasty "P" word again ....patience!  ::)

Once the window is cleaned out I set the good frame in place and it looks pretty good.  :)
052 cleaning out windows 2 by Kev C, on Flickr

Like I said, these walls are long and there's lots of windows that have to get done.
053 cleaning out windows 3 by Kev C, on Flickr

I've got a good start at it but I've got a long way to go with them. However, I've seen how great it looks when they are done right...so I just have to take my time!

Thanks for looking ... and reading my rant! :)

« Last Edit: October 09, 2017, 04:29:11 pm by karve »
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2017, 05:51:22 pm »
Don't cuss yourself too much Karve, we've all had that forehead slapping moment before.
Take your time she's looking fabulous. I would have gone blind by now with all that small
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2017, 05:56:27 am »
Thanks Tankton .. I needed that  :)

Well I got all the windows cleaned out on both promenade walls. It really wasn't too bad once I got the hang of it. It's just a matter of taking my time and being fussy about it. Of course, some turned out cleaner than others, but over all they are good. The photo etch windows fit quite well for the most part.

054 cleaning out windows 4 by Kev C, on Flickr

There was a set of four windows on both pieces where the molded 'frames' were a complete disaster. There was no way to eliminate them and have the opening for the good frames be the right size. To fix that I just drilled out the opening, glued a thin piece of styrene on top, and then build the proper size window in it.

055 cleaning out windows 5 by Kev C, on Flickr

A little puttying and sanding to get rid of the seams there and it'll be good to go.  :)

I was really pleased with how well that went. Now I have some windows to clean up on the end walls and then I can get that section light blocked, pianted and glued together.

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2017, 07:35:00 am »
This is looking Great, Kevin!

Like Tankton said,
Don't cuss yourself too much Karve, we've all had that forehead slapping moment before.

Or in my case, banging your head on the workbench moment! :)

I had to do the same on my current build - let the photo etch part be the fine detail - so you are not alone in backtracking! Just don't let it stop you - which you haven't by the looks of things!

Keep plugging along! You are doing wonderful work here!

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2017, 04:23:49 pm »
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Keep plugging along! You are doing wonderful work here!

Thanks Steve ....much appreciated.  :)

I have just a quick little update today. Like i said, after seeing the other great Titanic builds Matt gave me the link to I decided I needed to step it up so I decided to try and make a couple areas a bit better looking. The first is the two private promenade decks that I had installed earlier.
047 Side room lighting 1 by Kev C, on Flickr

There is one on each side of the ship and if I use transparent styrene in the exterior windows instead of frosted you can kinda sorta see in through those windows. Therefore, I did some research and searching and found what I needed to bring these to life somewhat.
057 private prominade by Kev C, on Flickr

The wall panelling and doors are a template I downloaded and printed out. I drilled out the windows properly and got the photo etch windows installed. After that a bit of 'plant material' and it looks better. :)

The other room I did this to was the Parisian Cafe on the same deck. The window frames were white in there so they need to be repainted. As for the four arch top windows, there were no windows put in those spots at all and I couldn't drill any out with it installed on the ship so I faked it. Still I'm satisfied with how it looks.
056 parisian cafe by Kev C, on Flickr

I'm going to put a couple lounge chairs and benches in the promenade decks but I think that's as far as I'm going to go. One could go right to town and make tables and chairs for the cafe etc. but I'm going to pass on that. I only have about 2% of the skill and patience I would need to take it to that level. Therefore I'm going to go for a representation of areas like these.
  One thing I know is that I definitely need more practice gluing these photo etch windows in place cleanly before I get to the ones on the very top of the ship where they are very visible!

So my next challenge is to actually make some of these lounge chairs and benches. I have the photo etch sheets for those but oh my gosh they are small! Stay tuned for that...it should be an adventure.  ::)

Anyhoo, thanks for looking.  :)

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Offline Lestatdelc

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2017, 05:54:11 pm »
This is looking really good. Eager to see more as your progress.
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2017, 06:39:48 pm »
Nice, Kevin, you've taken it up another notch and added a good deal more realism.  Keep going!

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2017, 09:46:30 pm »
Wow! That is looking totally awesome Kevin. When you mentioned tables and chairs I thought of a 1/350 scale waiter with a white linen towel draped over one arm and a serving tray in the other hand. Then my eyes exploded and reality re-appeared. ;) ;D
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2017, 04:24:34 pm »
Thanks so much guys. I appreciate the encouragement..  :)

OK well ya gotta love the 1/350 scale!

I got the first of many photo etch benches put together....man oh man ...  :o

058 first bench 1 by Kev C, on Flickr

I have to find a way of either a) getting these put together without marking up the paint on them, which I did with this one, or b) repainting them once I have several of them put together without blowing them all over the room with my air brush!

Anyway, this is what one will look like in the private promenade deck when I eventually get to that point.
059 first bench 2 by Kev C, on Flickr

I haven't tackled the lounge chair yet but I'll get to to it shortly.
Thanks for looking!
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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2017, 07:26:17 am »
Dude! That bench is SMALL! Whoa! I hope you wore loops!

Anyway, as always, your builds inspire me to be cleaner and to be more precise!

Keep at it! I am learning more about this ship through your build!

Steve

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Offline Matt OBrien

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2017, 01:39:09 am »
Ah, see?! See?! You've officially been sucked down the rabbit hole! This is looking great,  Kevin. The decision to tackle the Parisien Cafe and private promenades is just the start. Next you'll be making revolving doors for the first class smoking room.

I jest. Seriously though, this is turning out great. I didn't think to try my luck with those areas as mine was just going to be a trial run....moving on to a full-blown, lighted deal later.

My buddy John Hodge made up a bunch of downloadable images to be used in those areas as well as the first class dining room. He spent ages researching the floor tile patterns as well. I think he has added a link on the TRMA site so everyone can download the images and use then. Originally, the images were to be used for the larger scale semi-kits but he was able to scale them down for 1/350.

I had to hold my breath when I saw all your window mullions cut out (waiting to recieve the P.E. windows). When I did mine I ended up shattering them a couple of times. When it comes to your upper deck windows, they can be glued to the actual wall face, don't try and shape those openings perfectly to recieve the frame on the inside. You'll drive yourself insane.

Thanks to those who gave my build a look. It encourages me to get back to my own mothballed build. Kevin, let me look around and see if I have any extra brass masts. At least one set should have a fiberoptic fillament installed for the mast light. If I can figure out how to PM you, I'll see about mailing you a set, if you're interested. There's absolutely NO WAY those masts from the kit will support ANY rigging......at all, period.

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Re: Minicraft 1/350 Titanic ... Centennial Edition
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2017, 05:32:30 pm »
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My buddy John Hodge made up a bunch of downloadable images to be used in those areas as well as the first class dining room. He spent ages researching the floor tile patterns as well. I think he has added a link on the TRMA site so everyone can download the images and use then. Originally, the images were to be used for the larger scale semi-kits but he was able to scale them down for 1/350.

Ya Matt I'm pretty sure the images I got were his. I actually downloaded them off the google images page I found through searching. They are really well done! I've got some others I will hopefully be using as well.

On to a quick update I have today. I haven't been doing much with my model lately. It's been a really stressful time at work (it's been hell) and I just haven't had the energy or motivation lately to do much. However, hopefully things are starting to calm down a bit so I'll be able to get back at it a bit more.

I have been working away at getting the promenade walls glued down to the deck.....it's not as easy as it might seem! The walls assembly is so long and the fit is, shall we say, questionable in spots that I decided the best way to do it was to glue it down in segments. First I glued down the ends. Then when they were dry I glued the next 4 or 5 inches down and clamped them in place. Today I finished the gluing on one side and clamped it. Tomorrow I'll do the other side and then it will be all glued down.
060 gluing promenade walls by Kev C, on Flickr

I obviously decided to wait until the walls were all in place before putting the windows in because there was a huge risk of damaging them as I clamped the walls down.
  Lighting this section will be a challenge because of all the 'boxes' inside there that I assume are there for support of the deck above it. I have to play with it a bit to get it uniformly light.

Sorry it's such a lame update, but like I said it's been a stressful time. Hopefully I'll be at it more regularly shortly.  :)
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