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Offline whb64

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2017, 05:36:31 pm »
I fixed the image links :)

Now that I can see... wow.  I see all the imperfections now that my failing vision wasn't seeing.  It's all fixable but will take some extra time.  At least I am back to working on it now :)

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2017, 07:04:58 am »
Glad to read you're better!

Steady as she goes! Can't wait to see your progress shots!

Steve
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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2017, 05:34:21 pm »
Thanks Master Sargent :)

 

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2017, 05:42:29 pm »
I posted this in another thread but since it means I will start doing some serious work (finally!) on the Reliant I'd post it here as well in case someone is interested and didn't see the other thread.

I just picked up this...

$21.95 at CircuitSpecilists (already had a basic soldering iron, I just like this one better)
https://www.circuitspecialists.com/csi4550.html


and This from Walmart- $14.95



The soldering station is a pretty good deal if you take into account it comes with a spool of solder, which alone would cost $10-13.  If you look at it that way, the station came out to be $8.95-$11.95

CircuitSpecialists also has a pretty good deal right now on heat shrink-  $.06 for 4ft.  I got 40 feet for a whopping 60cents :)

I also got my power connectors from eBay, and my linear variable DC power supply will be here Monday.  I have a ton of resistors, LEDs, LED tape, Arduino boards ...  so I'm all set to start wiring!  I'm drawing an outline of the Reliant and starting to plan out where I will be putting the LED tape and where to setup the positive and negative bus lines.

I have plenty of magnet wire too, but here's a tip for those that haven't thought of this...  Ever have a network cable that the clip broke off, or you don't use your cat5 anymore because everything is wireless?  Well don't throw the cable out!  Cut the ends off and strip the outer insulation off and you now have four sets of wire, 8 wires total.  It's a great size, easy to run, and can definitely handle the low voltages we're using.

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2017, 08:14:16 pm »
It's been awhile due to health reasons (went blind) but I'm back to this build!

I ended up sanding the top of the saucer and repriming it so I can repaint and fix all the things I couldn't see were messed up.  First though I did some cutting! 

I cut the B/C deck off of one of my 537 Refit saucers...


To get it ready for this...  This is the accurized B/C deck from DLM


This is the new B/C deck resting in place...




Then I cut the B/C deck out of the Reliant upper saucer...



I do have the Reliant accurized B/C deck and bridge from DLM, but that will go on one of the new reissued 537 Reliant's that is more accurate than this kit.  Why waste a good part on something that already isn't accurate??  Since I got some practice cutting (honing skilles for the 350 Reliant build) it now needs a new B/C deck.  It just so happens I have the B/C deck from the AMT 537 Refit that I just cut off :)
Unfortunately it's not a direct swap.  The Refit B/C deck is longer and the rear is shaped different.  That and when I cut it out I cut below the window line, and the Reliant has the bridge island so if I left the lower level on it would be way too high and look really out of place... so some more cutting.  All in all it took around an hour each to cut out the B/C decks, and then another hour to cut the lower level off to get it ready for the Reliant.

(That's dust on the part from all the cutting of the big guy, not a bad paint job like before)

New B/C deck reshaped and compared to the old one (yeah the old one does have messed up paint!  But I won't be using it for anything)


Rear shot of the new B/C deck with the lower window housing in place (but not primed and painted yet)

... and a rear shot comparison of the old  bridge deck and new one...


The new B/C deck sitting in place to see how it will look...




Yes I know... it's totally not accurate, but it's better than what came with the kit.  Once I get the final shaping done, glued in place, puttied and sanded and finally a Crystal Clear window in the rear, I think (hope) it's going to look pretty good!


I also did some cutting on the big bad boy! Believe it or not it took almost an hour and a half to cut just this section out.  The resin is REALLY thick


This is how thick the resin is on the section I cut out, and this isn't even the full thickness.  There is still over 1/4" on the deck house that needs to be trimmed and detail sanded.


The section that was removed...


I also worked on the nacelles.  I decided to take a different approach - no pictures yet, forgot to take them, I'll have them up later tonight or tomorrow.  What I decided to do was instead of cutting the flux chiller grills out and replacing them with the blue transparent ones from DLM, or trying a Ratheon effect (which does work nicely and creates good diffusion) I opted to cut the grill lines out.  This way I can paint the grills black, but when the warp engine blue lights are on it will shine through the open slits.  Cutting the grill slits was way easier than I thought it would be.  The trick is to use the BACK of your Exacto knife.  If you try to use the blade it is too sharp and will eventually slide off track and slice up areas you don't want a big gouge or cut it.  The back of the blade point is sharp but not too sharp so you can make a nice score line.  I used light but steady and even pressure and started scoring the plastic between the grills until it is cut all the way through.  Once all the slits are done I needed to clean up the shavings.  Last I took some 600grit sand paper and slid it back and forth between each grill, this cleans everything up really nice.


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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2017, 08:26:08 pm »
In case anyone missed my initial review of the 350 scale Reliant conversion parts, this is the size difference between the 537 and what will be a 350 scale Reliant!

The 537 is before I sanded it and reprimed it.  I will spray it again with pearl white for the Aztek mask paint scheme.  The deck house of the 350 Reliant is bigger than the entire saucer and deck house of the 537 Reliant!


Here is the 350 deck house sitting on top of the Polar Lights 350 Refit saucer to give an idea of the overall size (I couldn't even fit the entire thing in the shot!  I would have had to get on a step stool to get high enough to get the whole thing in frame.



And last is a size comparison of the nacelles...


This shot you can see one of the 537 nacelles off to the right with the grill slits cut out.  This is before I cleaned them up with sandpaper...


I will be repainting the 537 in the next day or two.  First I have to clean up all the resin dust, and then I am going to try a custom pearl mix.  The pearl white comes out looking like silver, which probably won't look bad as Azteking, but I want to try to lighten it up a bit.  The primary hull color is going to be titanium white, so I'm going to try a 50/50 mix of titanium white and pearl white, or a 25/75 mix and see which looks best.  Then I will be respraying.

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2017, 07:10:24 am »
Whoa! "That's a big ship!!"

"Not so big as her Captain, I think!"

I must have missed it, whb64, but are you making and molding the 350 Reliant? Awesome if you are! Awesome still if you aren't!

The 537 is shaping up nicely! Well done!

Keep going!

Steve
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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2017, 11:11:07 am »
No I got the 350 Reliant conversion from Don Shoko.
I've been looking all over for someone that's actually worked on, and more importantly actually finished one of these Enterprise2Reliant conversions and I can't find anything.  Boyd started working on one but then no updates.  I'm starting to think nobody has actually finished one of these.

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2017, 12:00:27 am »
Quick update-

Things may seem like they are going slow, but this build is all about learning and honing skills that I will need on the 350 builds, specifically the 350 reliant.  I'm taking my time and being patient, which is the biggest weakness I had as a kid.  Back in my youth I just wanted things done and done NOW and quality suffered.  I'm older and smarter now :)

After the re-sanding and reprimed with a white adhesion promoting primer, I did some 'precision taping' to spray the pearl white in preparation for the Aztec masks.  I say precision taping because it sounds much cooler than saying I threw down some masking tape :)

The grid lines make it a breeze to get a nice clean line or curve.  Here's the top and bottom masked and ready for pearl.


While I waited for the pearl to dry I did some work on the rear of the B/C deck that I cut off a 537 Refit.  As mentioned previously I had to cut and reshape the rear, now I am putting the windows in and shaping the area with putty.

This is how it started:


Here is the first application of the water based Deluxe Materials Perfect Putty-  I  have to say this stuff is really nice to work with.  Since it's water based, you can apply it and then let it start to set.  Once it starts getting firm you can wet your finger and run it over the putty and it will soften up so you can start shaping it.  I'm using dental style carving/shaping tools I got at Harbor Freight. 





Here is after some initial shaping and smoothing





There is still a lot of work to do, but it's starting to take shape.  And yes I know it isn't 100% accurate, like I mentioned though this is more of a practice run.  I have a couple more 537 Reliant kits and I will do an 'accurate' version after I get this one built and get my skills honed. 

While waiting for the putty to totally set so I can do some sanding, I started working on test Aztec painting.  I want to try a couple different whites and pearl to see what combination looks the best.  I have 537 Refit parts laying around so I printed up some Aztecs.  I printed them on the back side (paper side) of Martha Stewart stencil film I got at Michaels.  I would have rather used frisket paper, but there isn't anyplace locally that sells it and I didn't feel like waiting for shipping so I snagged this.

It works pretty good... and again these are not accurate and not what I will be using on the Reliant, I have a set of Orbital DryDock masks for the actual build.  This is just practice and I didn't want to waste expensive masks for some test painting.

Here is what the stencil film looks like with the Aztec printed on the paper side-


I started applying the masks and this is what they look like before I spray the base white


Once I get the B/C deck finished and installed on the top saucer bridge island I'll start the Aztec masking and painting, then detail painting, and lastly fit all the lights and button it up.  This one is taking some time, but once I get everything down to a science the other builds should go much quicker.

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2017, 07:23:47 am »
I must have missed it, whb64, but are you making and molding the 350 Reliant? Awesome if you are! Awesome still if you aren't!

I do know someone that said they are going to be working on a full 350 scale Reliant kit.   I have no idea if and when that will actually happen or what the price would be.  Right now this is really the only one out there unless a person can score a Deboer kit, but they are expensive and if I recall are not 350 scale so it won't match the other 350 kits.

I do plan on something WAY in the future... as in a year or so from now...  I plan on making a 3D printed 537 scale 1701 D :)
First things first though...  I have to finish what I am working on now, and I have to get moved to the castle so I have room :)

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Re: Yet another Reliant build...
« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2017, 07:46:17 am »
Looking awesome, whb64!

The B/C desk with the metal inserts is shaping up nicely.

Hey! I know that masking pattern all too well!

Still, you are going a great job!

Keep going!

Steve
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