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Author Topic: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build  (Read 2717 times)

Offline TK Iain

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2018, 02:26:28 am »
This is amazing work.

Really enjoying watching you put these big girls together. :)
Iain

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2018, 05:12:12 pm »
You're doing some great work here, James.  The nacelle inserts looks great and will add so much dimensionality to the nacelles.  When are you going to get a 3D printer for these kinds of after market fixes?  Looking to you to pave the way as usual;) 

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2018, 10:23:06 pm »
Iain,

Huge thanks for the props, from an awesome builder!

A|W,

Also thanks!  I have been looking at 3D printers for 3 years.  They keep getting better and cheaper.  The printer material is also getting much cheaper.  Two issues though, I already have to know how to use 1,835 different software packages to do stuff, and I do not want to learn another.  Also, I would want to print out a ton of the Fat Dragon 3D gaming table parts, and that would derail all of my other projects.  So, will finish these first. :)

Update #30

I got one of the Reliant nacelles with the electronics installed.  Learned a few things.  The main one being that I will need to remove the grills that are cast into the nacelle before I install the electronics into the rest of the nacelles.  If all of the electronic dodads are in there, very hard to cut out, sand, and remove the excess material needed to make the new grills fit.  Will not be doing that tonight, a little late.  Another issue, the light box interferes with either the crystal light or will not fit into the nacelle.  So I had to modify the light box somewhat to clear the crystal LED and still fit into the nacelle.  Not that big of deal, took a while though.  I decided to just drill the 3mm hole in the rear of the nacelle to house the NJAV/Strobe light.  The wires that lead to the LED are glued in, and the LED is tacked down via super glue. When I hit some of the areas with epoxy, will put some epoxy on the back of the LED so you can not accidently push it into the nacelle.  That would be a DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS.  I could not imagine having to tear the thing apart to fix that error.  That would be very demoralizing.  I also will need to add some epoxy over the front two lights on the Reliant nacelle and some other points for reinforcement.  I have also added a bunch of Apoxie sculpt to allow for more surface area in the future glue up of the nacelle, and to help flatten out the curvy grill area.  All of the nacelles will need to be cleaned up and Apoxied like this.

Oh, another interesting tid bit.  The Reliant nacelles are super nice, the Enterprise ones are not.  Normally I would put the resin into some hot water to help straighten them out, but these nacelles are fiberglass impregnated, so, hot water is meaningless to them.,  Ultimately, these guys are super strong, but getting the joints flattened out on the Enterprise will take some effort, and I am concerned over the long term stability of the joint.  I might allow some what of a gap, basically minimize the gap along the entire joint, and go back in and fill.  This would have the effect of a slightly larger, maybe out of scale joint, but the model will stick together forever.  I will take some pics of what I am talking about in a future update. 

I also got a lot of work down on the retirement box, reorganized my game room, it was a disaster, updated my game ownership database, I track every LEGO and game I own.  Also saw Ready Player One with the family, great movie.   Overall a good weekend!

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2018, 07:51:59 am »
James, this is looking good!

One day, when I grow up, I will be a neat modeler, with precision foil tape corner folds, like you!

I love the use of a light box for the nacelle lighting! I have not seen this solution on may TMP builds.

Keep going!

Steve

I, too, saw Ready Player One and loved all the 80's Easter Eggs and nostalgia pieces peppered throughout the film! It was a good Spielberg film and Silvestri's music was awesome. I really loved Halliday's Star Trek TOS funeral flowers! I would kinda like that at my funeral, too! :)

On the retirement box - are you making your own shadow box or one for someone else? I love mine! Knowing your woodworking skills are Master's Level, maybe you can sneak a pic of it on here?!

Steve again.

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2018, 10:15:49 pm »
Steve,

The box is for a good friend of mine.  I did spend some time on it this week.  We got all of the pieces back from the laser etcher guy, and I got the bottom sides glued up.  Hoping to get some more of the box put together tomorrow night.  Thanks for the nice comments!

Update #31

Have not had a lot of time to work on the models.  The time I have had, has been spent on cleaning up the nacelles.  Getting close to be done with straightening out the area that the inserts go into.  Should be one last sanding, then back to electronic installation. 

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2018, 08:15:33 pm »
annnndddddd...two more putty and sanding, getting closer :(

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2018, 07:28:44 pm »

Update #32

The cleanup/straightening out of the grill area on the nacelles is pretty much done.  I need to come up with a new insert that goes in between the nacelle halves.  I do not think putting this together via a bunch of strips is going to work.  I think I will design a part and cut them out on the Silhouette.  The problem and benefit of this is that the cutter can only really cut through 0.020 thick plastic.  Looking at the studio model, this insert part thingy is really thick, thicker than what I will be able to put back in, due to the current unchangeable geometry of the nacelles.  I think I will be able to get between 4 and 6 of the 0.020 thick parts sort of glued up like a laminate board.  Maybe stronger than just strip styrene, I do not know, but will find out. 

I got the other 3 light boxes for the warp engines done last night.  I think I can install the electronics now while working on the inserts.

Progress.

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2018, 07:40:37 am »
Looking good, James!

What are you using to glue the parts? It looks kinda globby white. Just curious!

Keep going! I'm learning lots!

Steve
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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2018, 06:18:00 pm »
I use 5 minute epoxy and West Systems 105 epoxy.  It is white because I primed over it.

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #69 on: May 21, 2018, 09:36:47 pm »
Update #33

I have finally gotten the insert to look decent.  Took about 50 iterative attempts to get there, the angles and radii of the curves drove me NUTS.  So of course there had to be other issues,   The cutter would not cut through my 0.020 styrene, so had to drop down to 0.010 which means double the number of parts to cut, clean up and glue together.  The inserts are going to be little stacks of these cut outs glued together like a laminate.  Hope it works out well.  I need to build a little jig to compress the plastic bits together while they are glued up, to keep everything straight.  The next pic is of most of the electronics installed into the nacelles.  I do not have the Enterprise spot lights installed yet.  I have to do some assembly of the model to get the LEDs to line up properly.  I am debating on whether to glue the pylons to the nacelles to get these LEDs installed properly.  Once the nacelle is closed up, they they will not ever get opened again.  The last two pics are of the retirement box I am making for a friend.  Getting closer, but have to drive back up to Dallas to use some machine to get back to right angles.  My hand finishing could be better, oh well.  The construction of the box is about complete.  Once I get down up in Dallas, will complete the finish on the box, and then will need to order the hardware.  I have the leather that is going into the top of the box sitting in my office.

Cheers,
James

 




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