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Author Topic: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build  (Read 4470 times)

Offline jwood314

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #90 on: June 24, 2018, 11:47:59 pm »
Update #43

First off, the wife and I got to go see William Shatner presenting Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan.  It was awesome to see that movie with a couple of thousand likeminded Trekkies, lots of applause and cheering.  A really good time watching this 35 year old movie.  Shatner then spoke for a little over an hour answering questions from the audience.  For a guy in his mid 80s, he is still pretty darn sharp.  We had a great time, and who knows how much longer he can keep doing this.  I would like to have seen Nimoy before he died, but sauce with the goose.

On the model, all 4 nacelles are now glued up, the picture is of the last one getting glued, which is nice.  The next two pics are of the pre and post wire clean up.  I love my little hot glue gun.  I used to use 5 minute epoxy to do the wire tacking, this is WAAAY faster.  The light shot is of the nacelle pre glue to make sure that all of the LEDs still aim at the correct spot.  It was a tremendous amount of work getting the LEDs lined up and able to close up the nacelle body.  I actually over sanded some of the LEDs and had to replace them.  Lots of cursing but eventually got there.

I decided to take a break from engines and started working on the Reliant hull.  I sanded down all of the detail on one section and then flattened it using metal glaze car body filler stuff.  This stuff is amazing, but the fumes are horrible, so not my first choice of fillers.  However, used here since it was such a large area.  The picture shows the area almost done with sanding.  The second pic is of the cut outs in place.  I glued up most of the complex panels tonight.  I am debating on whether or not to add another level, wil decide tomorrow.

The last pic is off of the lacquer based AK paint I got.  I am putting together a color board to see how these paints interact with the base coat and also how well they do with masking.  I am comfortable with how all of the Mackenzie paint interacts, but not sure on the AK stuff.  I am trying to do as much paint work as possible in lacquer.  My experience is that the lacquer is a much more durable paint compared to the acrylics I use, and Vallejo is a great paint brand.  The acrylic does not fuse as well to the coat below as the lacquers seem to.  I am also using this board to firm up the colors I will use on the aztecing for the Reliant. 

Lots of time spent this weekend on the models, lots of progress.

Keep modeling!

Cheers,
James
« Last Edit: June 24, 2018, 11:50:24 pm by jwood314 »

Offline jwood314

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #91 on: June 25, 2018, 09:32:39 pm »
Update #44

I glued down the paneling on the back right corner of the Reliant.  All but 1 piece were perfectly placed, that one piece, of course the super complicated assembly is off about 1 mm, which frustrates me.  I will think on replacing it.  Depends on what the other side ultimately looks like.  Progress.  The larger issue of whether or not this was the correct thing to do was solved.  This was absolutely the right thing to do, plus developing some new skills in my model building tool kit.

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2018, 06:36:05 pm »
Update #45

Well, in a blind fit of rage I violently tore of the offending piece that was 1 mm out of true and annoyed the crap out of me every time I looked at.  The PAIN.  The kicker is, this is the bottom of the model and I doubt many people will get a ruler out to check on the orthogonality of the pieces.  Oh well, I now have another chance to be successful!  The other reason why I removed it was I could sand down the other parts of the lower hull.  I removed most of the detailed sections on the bottom.  I have already cut all of the pieces that will go back in.  I have been sanding everything flat and getting ready for the re-assembly.  The good part about this effort, I am building some skills in an area that I have been sorely lacking.  Also building some confidence, not sure what I am going to do on the top.  There are 4 triangles on the back of the model that are going to be replaced.  Those are up next.

Part of the reason to get the main hull done is so I can figure out where the center of gravity is and drill a hole for the mounting bracket.  On the Enterprise, it is already set, and there are not any options on where it can go. 

The last two pictures are of my paints and masking work.  This a complicated set of masks I cut on my cutter thingy.  I have not done any air brushing in quite a while, so it was good to get into a rhythm of cleaning the brush, changing colors, moving masks around etc.  All of the AK paints are lacquers, which is what I am trying to migrate to on all of my colors.  I love my Vallejo paints, BUT, they can lift quite easily when you pull the masking off, if there is too much over spray onto the masks.  I purposely over sprayed the masks with heavy coatings of the lacquer paint, and pretty much ZERO issues.  Also, they were very tough, not sure what to call them, minutes after getting sprayed and blow dried.  So, I am going to mix up several custom greys for all of the Reliant aztecing and other colors on the two models.  Looking forward to getting that done.

So cranking away on the models, happy with the progress.  The Reliant bottom is actually getting close to having all of the electronics installed, along with all of the additional Apoxie sculpt reinforcement.

Cheers,
James   

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2018, 09:37:09 pm »
My color board does not look like that in person, I guess I have reached the limits of my cell phone camera :(

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2018, 05:26:22 am »
Hey James, glad you replaced that one panel -- you know it would bug the hell out of you every time you look at it!

How do you like the Evercoat glaze versus the Liquitex Modeling Paste?  The Liquitex product is smooth as silk with no visible grain but it's hard as a rock which makes it a challenge to sand.  I'm assuming Evercoat is also a single part chemistry.

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #95 on: June 29, 2018, 09:05:51 am »
James, that is the great thing about models; nothing is permanent..ya know...until it is! :)

Okay, not to call out your technical terminology BUT...

In one sentence you use "orthogonality" (I had to look it up!) and then, a couple of paragraphs later, you use the highly technical term of "masks I cut on my cutter thingy"! :)

I like that! It reminds me of ME! :D

Keep going, James! I am enjoying the build!

Steve
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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #96 on: June 29, 2018, 12:26:44 pm »
I really like both.  The evercoat though seems to be able to go thinner, where I can actually sand it away and it won't chip out.  However, the evercoat STINKS.  I am moving more to the evercoat.  However, the liquid tex pastes can be put on thicker, to build an area up, but I have problems with the paste not bonding to the substrate as well as thee evercoat. 

I got tired of typing Silhouette, I always misspell the darn word!


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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2018, 08:49:00 pm »
Update #46

So, I am having problems cutting out the complex grill piece, that I did not have problems the first time around.  A little frustrated on that count, but I continue to work with the cutter to get some more cut out.  On another note, I got the base plating back onto the center section of the Reliant.  Looks great, but is shows the lack of symmetry of the part coming out of the mold.  I would have not noticed if it were not for the perfectly symmetrical parts I put back down on the model.  I am super happy with the parts that have gone down.  Excited to keep adding the upper level plates on.

I sanded down the triangles next to the Reliant shuttle bays.  FYSA, there will be fully built shuttle bats on both sides of the Reliant. 

I am also working on cutting out new corner details.  I will end up replacing all of the detail on the bottom hull section.  I am still working on figuring out how to get the sensor band detail better.  Still looking at doing full photo etch banding for all three bands.  Oh, I also order more AK paint and have started the second color board.  I will be mixing the paint colors that will go onto the R and E, and testing them on the color boards. 

Also have been working the design of the base.  I think it is going to look pretty darn awesome!

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2018, 09:42:38 pm »
Update #47

I got the greebling completed on the center section of the Reliant bottom hull.  I also got all of the panel pieces done.  I am going to glue them down tomorrow.  Very long day and I do not want to screw it up again.  The little grill pieces took me about 4 hours to cut out 2 that were good enough to use on the model.  I do not want to screw it up again.  The little grill pieces took me about 4 hours to cut out 2 that were good enough to use on the model.  I do not know why the cutter had such a hard time cutting them out today, VERY frustrating.  I think I am going to go give it one more shot.  At least I have 1 really good one and 1 decent one. 

I was also trying to get the corner detail cut out today and had no success.  I am thinking I will try and do a PE part for that, unless I can overcome my Silhouette cutter trauma. 

I had to redo the triangle detail that is next to the shuttle bays due to a drill disaster.  So, almost ready to drill some holes in the new batch of parts.  Then will get the greebling back onto to them, repair the lower hull and glue them on.  I am closing in to only having the sensor band and panel lines left to correct/repair/improve/rescribe on the bottom hull.  Then, electronics and Apoxie sculpt.  Looking forward to finding the center of gravity for the Reliant and drill a 1 inch hole into the hull.  I hope I do not have a heart attack!

I also included a pic of the original detail, and of the 1078 air bubbles that are now removed due to the recent effort.

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2018, 08:22:54 pm »
Update #48

A lot of time for not a lot of progress.  I finished restoring and removing air bubble holes in the bottom of the Reliant.  Took me several days to get the fins reinstalled.  I tore out my first attempt much happier with the second attempt.  I used the metal glaze to get the areas much closer to flat.  There was a dip in the middle of both areas of the fin portion.  Took a couple of applications and sanding to get it close to flat, while it is not perfect, much better than what I started with.  I also went in a replaced all of the side detail on the area I have no idea on what to call.  What you do not see in the pictures is that I have done two passes of clean up on all of the other detail on the bottom on the Reliant.  I am going to do one more visible inspection on it before I install the RCS thruster resin, then tape the sides up and prime the bottom.  I want the bottom primed and in great shape before I install all of the electronics, all in pursuit of finding the center of gravity on the model.

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #100 on: July 08, 2018, 09:19:44 pm »
Update #49

Bee bopping along on the ships.  Got the first coat of primer down on the bottom hull of the Reliant.  Woohoo, I have not gone back and started cleaning up all of the nibs and defects yet.  Took a large chunk of the can of primer, LOL.  Two shots of the bottom hull rear wall detail I replaced off of the original casting.  One shot of the taping up to make sure I do not get primer on the back sides of the windows that would be frustrating.  You can sort of see in the lower hull shot the tape I used to mask off all of the windows and the sensor band.  I am still not sure how/what I am going to do on this.  The resin that this model is cast out of is SUPER hard, and putting panel lines back in is very difficult and tough on my hands/wrists/old age.  Hopefully I do not put the sensor bands back in by hand, I do not know though.  That would be a multiday very sad process.  The next pick is of the panel lines on the top and bottom Enterprise saucer section have been deepened and all of the problems have their first filling with filler.  The last is the complete color chart for the AK paints.  I LOVE the AK lacquer paints.  I find it very interesting how the colors are different between the board and my monitor.  I wonder where the slight color variations are coming from, my camera, video card, cheap TV monitor?  Cranking right along. 

The AK paint is fantastic, I strongly suggest folk go take a look at it.  The paint is lacquer based, so pretty much air brush.  However, I have not tried using a brush to see what it would look like.  Also, the paint, for the most part, comes out super flat.  There is no need for an over coat to flatten out the color.  Love this stuff, and look forward to custom mixing all of the colors needed to finish out these models.

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2018, 07:27:36 am »
James, your panels are looking awesome. Sorry to read about your frustrations with the cutter - that's terrible!

I still think what you achieved is excellent!

I am enjoying the read! Don't give up. Keep it going!

Steve
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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2018, 09:51:07 pm »
Steve,

Thanks!  Nothing some Alieve can't fix on the cutter.  I sharpen often also, which helps.  I can't stop this train.  I need to get them built and out the door!  I can see a light at the end of the construction tunnel, so that is good.

Update #50

Sand, putty, paint, sand putty, paint.  At least there was good improvement between the efforts on the above pictures.  On a side note, about to head out on vacation, woohoo, so no updates for a while!

Cheers,
James

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Re: Mutara Nebula DeBoers Enterprise and Reliant Build
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2018, 08:45:45 pm »
I can't make this up. I think I am suffering from sanding withdrawal! LOL

Cheers,

 




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