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Author Topic: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale  (Read 3044 times)

Offline Mr Atoz

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Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« on: February 23, 2018, 08:01:48 pm »
 This year, I recently purchased the well know sci-fi ship Discovery XD-1 from 2001: A Space Odyssey by Moebius.During Model Fiesta,I saw this model for sale at Jerry Hedgcock's table (HDA Model Worx).We had a nice chat about this latest release and I thought that it was good model to build.This famous fictional spaceship would be an excellent pairing with the Moebius Orion space plane built a few years ago.

So far, the kit was simply opened to examine the parts and try some dry fitting.There are hundreds of small pieces comprising the long spine and various engine details.A two piece hollow metal tube and sleeve support the delicate backbone of the ship.The propulsion module and spherical crew compartment are of a few parts.The only snag with my kit was that the manufacturer packed two identical upper halves of the crew compartment and omitted the lower half.A simple e-mail to Moebius Models and a short few days later the correct part was received.The staff at Moebius were very accommodating.

I know a few modelers around the web will likely be using the upcoming and available after market photo etch with this kit.After some close examination of the parts,it was decided to build the ship stock with lighting of the engines and cockpit only.

Many folks familiar with the Discovery model probably know it's a rather long ship at around 41 inches in length.To make it easy to move around and transport,it's possible to break up the ship in three  pieces and join them together with neodymium magnets.It will likely be displayed along a wall with side brackets and with the included three piece stand for viewing on a table.

Lighting,at this point,will be battery powered with nine volts.We may have a small concealed switch to activate the lights.

This latest project possesses some exciting possibilities and nostalgia.For certain, we are looking at a long term build using the best sources available.

« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 08:03:59 pm by Mr Atoz »
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 08:13:53 pm »
Assembled at will with magnets?  Awesome!  Cannot wait to see this beastie come together.
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2018, 08:29:31 pm »
Assembled at will with magnets?  Awesome!  Cannot wait to see this beastie come together.

Thank you! There is much to work out but it seems doable.For now,it's looking like it can be divided in three parts.The spine alone is quite lengthy!
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 08:15:19 am »
Adam (Mr. Atoz),

Knowing your skills from you previous awesome builds, I know you will do this more than justice! The magnet idea is cool idea! Would love to see how you do that.

Good luck and I will be following along.

Steve
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 09:06:36 pm »
Adam (Mr. Atoz),

Knowing your skills from you previous awesome builds, I know you will do this more than justice! The magnet idea is cool idea! Would love to see how you do that.

Good luck and I will be following along.

Steve

Thanks Steve! Moving the model around and storage is the primary motivation for making the finished product modular.I haven't touched anything except getting ready to wash the parts but planning the breakdown points is a lot of fun! . ;D
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 10:33:54 pm by Mr Atoz »
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 10:47:04 pm »
This evening,we washed all of the parts in preparation of primer and paint.This time a regimen of hot water, dish washer's soap  and bleach scouring powder was used to cleanse the parts of release agent.This was a similar process used on some past builds with resin parts.

The engine exhausts were inspected to see how to mask them for lighting.The vertical grills are slightly misshaped but more than workable.The spherical crew compartment was test fitted to work up an assembly scheme.It's likely we can glue the two hemispheres together and use magnets to attach it to the neck.The lip behind the sphere is deeper and could seal better.

Not much else was worked on at this point but some minor assembly can begin soon.   
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 12:22:20 am »
Tonight, we were off to a great start on assembly of the sphere and neck.Firstly,the clear window and inner frame were glued together.This part is glued from behind the upper half of the sphere.So far,the assembly can be deceptively simple but one must be careful with subtle differences.The clear window was attached to a small runner on the side which was a small side window.The attachment point was on top of the window.This of course damaged the surface enough to make repairs.It's not crystal clear now but still better than the flaw caused by the casting.Also,the windows are recessed enough that they should be masked and painted black before installing them into the sphere.The inner frames are molded onto the surface of the clear plastic so, those were roughed up with very fine sand paper to accept paint.

Next ,the pod bay doors were glued in with Tamiya liquid cement.The fit of the parts are not quite right but can be easily filled with canopy glue and painted over.

The last of the work this evening was assembling the neck parts.This is where attention to detail is very important.The ring that glues to the sphere is keyed with two notches and pegs(One on top and bottom).These orient the ring where there is a port that should be on the left side of the ship(A panel that's glued in separately).Looking from the front,the rings support ribs for the steel rod are canted to the left a few degrees.On the back of the ring,three peg and holes are canted the same way with an odd triangular pattern.The parts were marked (with a pencil)on the top side of each segment to place the components the correct way. If after gluing the ring to the sphere,the neck can then go on only one way.

More study of the instructions reveal that the tab and slot orientation is key to placing the spine segments ,sphere and propulsion section on correctly.For example,the front and back of the ship have the slots on top while the spine segments are canted a few degrees to the right looking from the front.

There are dozens of cargo pods that comprise the spine and each have an alternating pattern as well as orientation.We may save this phase of construction for near the last half of assembly.

While inspecting the parts of the kit,the two hollow steel rods were checked for straightness.Each half was rolled on a piece of mirror glass to see any wobble. Only one half needed to be bent a few times to correct it.To the unaided eye,it may not have appeared to make a difference but the small errors would add up a large misalignment. We may use a jig and building board while assembling the cargo pods to the spine.

For now, this model may proceed in spurts and pauses.There are many factors along the way that'll need some strategic building.

« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 01:02:54 am by Mr Atoz »
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 12:54:02 pm »
Checking rod straightness sounds like a good idea.

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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2018, 01:14:16 pm »
Checking rod straightness sounds like a good idea.

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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2018, 01:13:57 am »
Much was done today to ready the model for the magnet mounting system.Starting with the sphere, 3/64" sheet styrene was cut into wedges to fit inside each of spherical halves and neck base.Surplus sprue was glued in place to reinforce the wedges.When cured ,the 1/4 " neodymium magnets can be glued in place with CA glue.Meanwhile ,the antennae assembly was fitted with the same kind of magnet set up.

The pod bay door gaps were filled in with canopy glue(Weldbond).It might need one more application to make up for shrinkage.

All ten spine segments were assembled and set aside to cure.It was noticed that the slot and peg scheme may be in error.The peg on the forward neck and propulsion compartment appear to be the wrong angle for the spine to key into.These pegs may need to be removed to align the major parts correctly.

To finish up,the wire running through the spine was pulled through the steel tube a few times.This will ensure it can be threaded easily.Before routing the wiring permanently,we can thread it through the rods one at a time.
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2018, 10:00:53 pm »
Tonight,we finished up the magnetic mounting system for the sphere.The hold of the magnets are strong but the forward section can be easily removed.Assembly proceeded to prepare for the mounting system at the propulsion section.

The entire propulsion section was then assembled as per the instructions save the upper half.Taking a queue from an ongoing build on Trek Works'  YouTube video,the upper half was modified as a hatch. The slots on the side and back of the hull piece are made for the side detail panels to lock in place.These slots were simply cut through.Since the engines and command deck are being lit, the steel tubing will need to be supported with a mid lying bulk head made from plywood or similar material.The tube was originally going through the center engine bell.

More will be needed to work out the installation of the magnets in the aft propulsion segment ring.In the meantime,some cleanup can start on the spine parts.

In between gluing and curing,we watched the film on DVD to figure out the color scheme of the ship.It seems that the off-white hull color is quite bright,judging from the lighting in the film.The color of the kit plastic seems to be the color we are looking for.As for the overall surface finish,it's difficult to discern if the clear coat should be flat or semi-gloss. A previous build of the Orion space plane was coated in a semi-gloss lacquer.This will require more viewing of the film to see for certain.
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2018, 10:46:38 pm »
Loving this!

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2018, 07:21:49 pm »
During this build session, we completed the aft mounting system. Since the steel rod is bearing the load of the propulsion segment,just four magnets were needed to hold it in place.To start,the small ring was filled with plywood(for back up material) and the magnets glued in with CA glue.Next,the propulsion segment was fitted in a similar manner except with sheet styrene only.

An 1/8'' sheet of lite plywood was shaped into a form fitting bulkhead and epoxied in place with a five minute type adhesive. 1/4" square balsa was mitered to reinforce the bulkhead and increase contact area. After setting fully,the entire piece was varnished in a thin epoxy resin.

After all of the mounting system was completed,the steel tubing was test fitted for tolerances.There is enough play between the rod and bulkhead to make installation and breakdown easy.The magnets have more than adequate hold for this area.

As we go along,a certain amount of the steel rod will need to be trimmed to fit the wiring from the back.A few of the cargo pods for the bottom of the spine will need to be assembled to begin construction on the spine.From there it will be easy to determine how much of the rod can be cut off.
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Re: Moebius 2001: A Space Odyssey Discovery XD-1 1/144 scale
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2018, 10:08:11 pm »
Today we started work on the spine and cargo pods.The ten spine segments were finished off with some seam dressing and fitted with small brackets.It was decided to assemble about 19 cargo pods of varying sizes.There are five sizes of cargo pods totaling 70 pieces.They are differentiated also with an outside and inside end piece.To keep track of installation, the different pods are categorized as A,B,C,D, and E. As in the construction of the pods,the assembly of individual parts and components are keyed to where the correct parts go as intended.

Next ,we trial fitted the spine segments over the steel tube.Fortunately,this is a snug fit requiring very little glue later.Plastic cement will be used on the plastic spine parts (to properly weld them together)and CA glue to the steel tube.Having them previously assembled will aid in keeping the spine straight and level.The plan is to paint the spine and cargo pods,glue the pods to the individual spine segments and then glue the finished segments to the steel tube.The two lengths of the spine will be pinned to a wood building board to set up after gluing.

« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 10:17:38 pm by Mr Atoz »
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